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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    kaw753 said:
    I assume he is putting together more of a "show" than he did at Innings Fest? I am not sure a man with a uke really translates in a 20000 arena.

    One thing to consider. Maybe $165 is his minimum price to pack his stuff up and do these shows? Anything less and he doesn't bother and nobody see him.
    How much of the $165 do you think Ed gets?  $50?  I seriously have no clue. 
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    eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 921
    I'd pay 250 quid to see Peter venkman  :)

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mcgruff10 said:
    If you guys don't like the prices don't go.  You are the consumer.  
    Exactly. Easy one for me. Can't imagine paying $150 to see any dude with a ukulele, a notebook and chair performing cover songs. Sorry, Ed. For me, that's a $35 show at a local casino.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,531
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
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    GV658068GV658068 Posts: 10
    jeffbr said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    If you guys don't like the prices don't go.  You are the consumer.  
    Exactly. Easy one for me. Can't imagine paying $150 to see any dude with a ukulele, a notebook and chair performing cover songs. Sorry, Ed. For me, that's a $35 show at a local casino.
    Totally with you on that one.. I'm glad that there are more people in this community who see that it's a bit crazy. 
    I hope too see Ed soon with PJ and maybe a new album tour or something like that.. That would be worth the money! :)
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,935
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
    What if it was some kind of supergroup?
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,531
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
    What if it was some kind of supergroup?
    Perhaps.  But definitely no Pearl Jam songs.  
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,840
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
    What if it was some kind of supergroup?
    Supergroups are so lame imo.  Not a fan at all.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,935
    edited March 2019
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
    What if it was some kind of supergroup?
    Perhaps.  But definitely no Pearl Jam songs.  
    I think it's weird... that you have to go see Eddie solo for some Pearl Jam songs. Like, if I want to hear Thumbing my way live I need to go watch Eddie solo... Which I did, and I got to hear him play it. The same with Sometimes and Can't Keep. Pearl Jam "never" plays them, Eddie does....

    Pearl Jam not really covering their catalogue of great songs and Eddie doing it solo... is really weird to me. With Eddie deciding the setlist too. it would be one thing if it was Mike who refused to play Thumbing my Way because he hates it or whatever.

    Now it's more like Eddie keeps some songs for Pearl jam, and some songs for his solo career. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    An Amsterdam Tenclub ticket costs 145 Euro. I think this is crazy. It is going to be the first PJ/EV show in my homecountry that I’ll skip (with pain in my heart) in more than two decades. Why do people here compare these prices to those of other artists? I think it’s all about what you dare dare to ask from your devoted fans. And that is not 145 Euro for me. Ed could make a statement, couldn’t he? 
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,750
    I just have zero interest seeing Ed other than solo or with Pearl Jam.  Maybe Ed and Glen together playing songs, but Ed with a full backing band that is not Pearl Jam is sacrilegious.
    What if it was some kind of supergroup?
    Perhaps.  But definitely no Pearl Jam songs.  
    I think it's weird... that you have to go see Eddie solo for some Pearl Jam songs. Like, if I want to hear Thumbing my way live I need to go watch Eddie solo... Which I did, and I got to hear him play it. The same with Sometimes and Can't Keep. Pearl Jam "never" plays them, Eddie does....

    Pearl Jam not really covering their catalogue of great songs and Eddie doing it solo... is really weird to me. With Eddie deciding the setlist too. it would be one thing if it was Mike who refused to play Thumbing my Way because he hates it or whatever.

    Now it's more like Eddie keeps some songs for Pearl jam, and some songs for his solo career. 
    Now that would be a whole other can of worms. That would piss me off greatly! 
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    This old doozy again.

    Last time EV played London tickets were £95.00 Thats Ninety five pounds. Ninety five GBP. Not dollars, and the conversion into dollars does not work. Pearl jam tickets were £50.00 - £60.00. I go to gigs that cost anything from £5 - £30, expensive tickets in this city are £40.00-70.00. £80.00-£100.00 tickets are reserved for 3 hour shows by Elton John, Metallica, etc etc

    I'm not surprised by ticket prices anymore and find it a shame that EV solo shows aren't priced at the very least, the same as Pearl Jam shows. I do understand the difference in venue capacity, production, staffing, etc before any economists decide to correct me.


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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    my2hands said:
    I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol
    I dunno. While I have no inclination to ever see an Eddie solo show (they seem boring), if people will pay that much, why not charge that much? It's a complete 180 degree switch from the mid-90's, but maybe he has realized how many millions of dollars he left on the table in the 90's with his "sponsored by no one" bullshit and now he's trying to get some back. 
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,882
    my2hands said:
    I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol
    Will be interesting to see what happens if/when he tries playing the U.S. again. Expecting people to pay double for basically the same show many saw in 2011 and 2012 is a gamble.
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I've never seen him solo and I wish he'd tour the god damn USA for a change.  I wouldn't pay $100 to see many people, but I'd pay $165 to see Eddie solo.  If that makes me an apologist, so be it.  It's a show I want to see.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,935
    It would be one thing if he played small places. Than I would assume a price hike. But he plays really big places this time around.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    edited March 2019
    Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?! That’s all the two German venues hold for shows with seats only. Amsterdam and Dublin too from what I‘ve read here
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    JPPJ84 said:
    Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?!
    Considering Eddie's solo act is tantamount to a guy in a bar with an acoustic guitar, I'd say 5,000 seat venues are gigantic.
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    JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,440
    JPPJ84 said:
    Are places with 5-7.000 seats really that big though?!
    Considering Eddie's solo act is tantamount to a guy in a bar with an acoustic guitar, I'd say 5,000 seat venues are gigantic.
    Fair enough 
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,538
    I've never seen him solo and I wish he'd tour the god damn USA for a change.  I wouldn't pay $100 to see many people, but I'd pay $165 to see Eddie solo.  If that makes me an apologist, so be it.  It's a show I want to see.
    I'm with you on this.
    However not going to travel too far or spend a lot more to see him.
    1 maybe 2 shows at those prices
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    you ask your worth. it's as simple as that. 

    I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

    it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value. 

    Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,935
    you ask your worth. it's as simple as that. 

    I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

    it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value. 

    Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions. 
    Quote from other thread:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Yes, of course. And this is why I on here - and elsewhere - have argued for a long time that Pearl Jam need to raise their ticket prices. Squeeze as much as they can from that first few rows - people will obviously pay for it. Fans thinking it costs too much - don't have to buy.

    I also, for the sake of the band and their personal wealth, think they should ask another $10-15 for their t-shirts. Bands like e.g. Ghost and KISS ask for 40-50 for a t-shirt - and I for one think that Pearl Jam is leaving money on the table on their t-shirts -- and also other tour merch.

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    crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,418
    JimmyV said:
    my2hands said:
    I love watching the apologists excuse away $165 for Vedder on a stool lol
    Will be interesting to see what happens if/when he tries playing the U.S. again. Expecting people to pay double for basically the same show many saw in 2011 and 2012 is a gamble.
    It will probably still sell out or at least get close to that.  The economy is too good.  The same fanbase drops hundreds on the regular, and a lot of times even thousands on posters.  I think most will complain about prices, but will buy the tickets anyway.  I also think it takes out the gap for scalpers to make big money.  Not the main goal of price hikes, but not a bad thing either.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited March 2019
    I don't know wtf shows some of you are seeing so that tickets regularly cost $150+ USD, and that you actually see that as a bargain, but that is not my experience at all. I get TONS of great concert tix for far less than that. Hell, I got Neil Young tickets for far less than that. And NIN. And Chris Cornell. And Ben Folds. And Tom Petty. And The National. Etc etc ... FFS, the only time I have EVER paid that much or more for a concert ticket is for Paul McCartney. Elton John tix are also that much... Eddie Vedder solo, as much as I love him, isn't anywhere close to that level, so I don't know why his tix are that pricey. I would expect EV's tix to start at maybe $60 USD, and go up to perhaps $150 USD only for the most expensive seats in the house. I have no problem with $150+ USD Eddie Vedder tickets as long as they are premium tickets. There should always be a good spread of prices IMO. I am super pro graduated pricing... But EV's top level pricing is WAY too high for his act. Did I see that it was over $300??? That is ridiculous to me. But hey, yeah, there are surprisingly people willing to pay that. There is no way in hell I would. To each their own I guess, but it really sucks that some fans are so willing to be suckered out of so much money, because it ruins the market for everyone.
    But of course I agree nobody should be expecting low low ticket prices of yesterday. Even if it weren't for the suckers... inflation is real either way.
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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    you ask your worth. it's as simple as that. 

    I was willing to work for $6 an hour back in 1995. should I be ok with that now?

    it has a lot less to do with crew or lights or overhead costs....it's about market value. 

    Would I pay it? if he was coming to my town, no question I would. Would I like new material and for him to actually play more of his own/PJ songs than half a set of cover songs? yes. but he's the performer, and a happy performer playing not your favourites is better than a miserable performer just going through the motions. 
    Completely agree, HFD. Now we may have differing opinions on "worth" and "value" but I completely agree that one can't hold Ed to past ticket prices. His worth to many people has increased along with his celebrity status. I, personally, find no value in that, and is partly why I wouldn't pay more than $35 to see him play old songs and cover songs, but if others think he's worth $150 a ticket or more, then I hope they are able to make it to shows, and enjoy themselves! 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    I didn't see anyone say it's a "bargain", or that people regularly pay that price for other shows, but if he commands those prices, which I suspect he will, then that's what he's worth, whether any individual believes it or not. no different than with vinyl. to some, a benny is worth $1300. to most, they wouldn't pay $300. 

    I would imagine the prices would be adjusted if/when he plays back in NA. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,515
    edited March 2019
    Someone said it was well below market value = bargain. They said it because they think we should be looking at scalper prices as a measuring stick. And yes, others said that these are common price levels. 
    I don't blame Eddie. I blame the fans for these stupid prices. I wish people demanded better for themselves and everyone else. They won't. I just wish they would.
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,056
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't know wtf shows some of you are seeing so that tickets regularly cost $150+ USD, and that you actually see that as a bargain, but that is not my experience at all. I get TONS of great concert tix for far less than that. Hell, I got Neil Young tickets for far less than that. And NIN. And Chris Cornell. And Ben Folds. And Tom Petty. And The National. Etc etc ... FFS, the only time I have EVER paid that much or more for a concert ticket is for Paul McCartney. Elton John tix are also that much... Eddie Vedder solo, as much as I love him, isn't anywhere close to that level, so I don't know why his tix are that pricey. I would expect EV's tix to start at maybe $60 USD, and go up to perhaps $150 USD only for the most expensive seats in the house. I have no problem with $150+ USD Eddie Vedder tickets as long as they are premium tickets. There should always be a good spread of prices IMO. I am super pro graduated pricing... But EV's top level pricing is WAY too high for his act. Did I see that it was over $300??? That is ridiculous to me. But hey, yeah, there are surprisingly people willing to pay that. There is no way in hell I would. To each their own I guess, but it really sucks that some fans are so willing to be suckered out of so much money, because it ruins the market for everyone.
    But of course I agree nobody should be expecting low low ticket prices of yesterday. Even if it weren't for the suckers... inflation is real either way.
    No one is being suckered. People know the show, are seeing the price, and making their decision. $150 or so is too much for me, but I hold no ill will toward those who think it's worth it. 
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,725
    edited March 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Someone said it was well below market value = bargain. They said it because they think we should be looking at scalper prices as a measuring stick. And yes, others said that these are common price levels. 
    I don't blame Eddie. I blame the fans for these stupid prices. I wish people demanded better for themselves and everyone else. They won't. I just wish they would.
    I wish I had the 1995 Spin Magazine interview in front of me because he had some quote in there about shuddering to think what it would be like to only play in front of people that could afford $80 tickets ($132 today). I'll have to check it out later when I get home and see if I got the quote right.
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