The Democratic Candidates

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2019
    Anyway, if O'Rourke wins the nomination, it will be a clear sign that Democrats really do not want to go further left... And I think that would be unfortunate. America really needs to get at least a bit more left if it wants any meaningful change for the better, IMHO. I don't think the country is sustainable under a fraudulent theory that is trickle down, without universal healthcare, without a much more just and equal education system, and without a solid and humane plan to legalize 11 million illegal (law abiding) workers. Even the farthest left Dems running won't be able to do all that, but I don't think O'Rourke will even try to any of those things, nor to get closer to most of them. I'm sure it will surprise no one to hear that I'm hoping America elects a pretty fucking leftist POTUS, lol.
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Everyone on here is obviously smart enough to know that policy is very important. For “joe voter” or the swing voter, personality has to be a huge factor. I’m not talking about as one of their voting issues or whatever, but on a subconscious level, if that makes any sense. I guess what I’m saying is Trump has personality. He’s a piece of shit, but he has a personality, and he’s a shit talker. The dems gotta put up someone that’s gonna be able to match that. I feel like Bernie and Biden have that personality and am nervous about putting up some of these other candidates. Boring Beto ain’t gonna cut it. Policy wonkiness ain’t gonna cut it. Lol, I kid. I don’t know enough about Beto to know if he’s boring or not.

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2019
    Hi! said:
    Everyone on here is obviously smart enough to know that policy is very important. For “joe voter” or the swing voter, personality has to be a huge factor. I’m not talking about as one of their voting issues or whatever, but on a subconscious level, if that makes any sense. I guess what I’m saying is Trump has personality. He’s a piece of shit, but he has a personality, and he’s a shit talker. The dems gotta put up someone that’s gonna be able to match that. I feel like Bernie and Biden have that personality and am nervous about putting up some of these other candidates. Boring Beto ain’t gonna cut it. Policy wonkiness ain’t gonna cut it. Lol, I kid. I don’t know enough about Beto to know if he’s boring or not.
    Yeah, Trump's got a personality. So did Mussolini and so does Elmer Fudd, lol. I really can't explain the idiocy behind some people's voting habits, but I don't think world leaders should be forced to play to the lowest common denominator. If that means some countries have to learn the hard way, and basically crash and burn, so be it.
    Yeah, I definitely don't think Beto is boring. That is not his problem.
    Also, I am very disappointed to know that America still wants old white men the most. It's true. It's like America thinks its voting for their collective grandpa rather than a president. Not that I don't like Bernie and Biden. But over and over again it is made clear that America is largely avoiding female candidates for no truly good reason, and for some reason didn't learn that a younger candidate can be a great option, despite Obama. 
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Hi! said:
    Everyone on here is obviously smart enough to know that policy is very important. For “joe voter” or the swing voter, personality has to be a huge factor. I’m not talking about as one of their voting issues or whatever, but on a subconscious level, if that makes any sense. I guess what I’m saying is Trump has personality. He’s a piece of shit, but he has a personality, and he’s a shit talker. The dems gotta put up someone that’s gonna be able to match that. I feel like Bernie and Biden have that personality and am nervous about putting up some of these other candidates. Boring Beto ain’t gonna cut it. Policy wonkiness ain’t gonna cut it. Lol, I kid. I don’t know enough about Beto to know if he’s boring or not.
    Yeah, Trump's got a personality. So did Mussolini and so does Elmer Fudd, lol. I really can't explain the idiocy behind some people's voting habits, but I don't think world leaders should be forced to play to the lowest common denominator. If that means some countries have to learn the hard way, and basically crash and burn, so be it.
    Yeah, I definitely don't think Beto is boring. That is not his problem.
    Also, I am very disappointed to know that America still wants old white men the most. It's true. It's like America thinks its voting for their collective grandpa rather than a president. Not that I don't like Bernie and Biden. But over and over again it is made clear that America is largely avoiding female candidates for no truly good reason, and for some reason didn't learn that a younger candidate can be a great option, despite Obama. 
    Interesting to consider these things, especially Obama’s election, when I just listened to a Malcolm Gladwell podcast today that talked about moral licensing.We didn’t follow our moral trajectory after Obama. We went backwards and elected a.....well, you know. 
    If there was any justice in this world we would elect Butt Edge Edge/ Abrams 2020.
    *Edit: Buddha Judge/ Abrams2020
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Any chance the DNC reconsiders their decision to not have debates on Fox News? I say have all the debates on Fox. Someone needs to get ahold of Tom Perez or whoever and get this shit fixed asap.

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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited March 2019
    Agreed

    https://youtu.be/hdhyioTtMnM
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Yep!  Couldn't agree more.  There is a grave danger of "left wing Trump" happening right now.

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    "You want a fair shake.  Go get a massage with Bob Kraft" Bill Maher

    LOL
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    what dreams said:
    Agreed

    https://youtu.be/hdhyioTtMnM
    Thanks so much for sharing this. I usually hate Maher's style (I find him pretty arrogant) but he articulated that perfectly.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    edited March 2019
    I think you all are giving too much credit to Maher on this one, and I like him.
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I watch Fox News every Sunday morning. Chris Wallace is a fantastic interviewer. I would have no problem with him moderating a Democratic debate. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    what dreams said:
    I watch Fox News every Sunday morning. Chris Wallace is a fantastic interviewer. I would have no problem with him moderating a Democratic debate. 
    Wallace and Shep are good news men
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    what dreams said:
    I watch Fox News every Sunday morning. Chris Wallace is a fantastic interviewer. I would have no problem with him moderating a Democratic debate. 
    Wallace and Shep are good news men
    We could use some good news. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    It's not unusual for FOX News not to hold a democratic primary debate.

    Feels like manufactured outrage.
  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2019
    Fox not usually holding dem debates is the exact reason they should be doing it. We got to reach out to these voters.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    dignin said:
    It's not unusual for FOX News not to hold a democratic primary debate.

    Feels like manufactured outrage.
    I don't think it's outrage,  it's warranted criticism from members of the party
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    I know that it's been a long time since Fox held one of these debates -- but why not let them hold one? I can only see positives??? Reaching the Fox bubble, and it's not like Sean Hannity will sit there and commentating it live?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I know that it's been a long time since Fox held one of these debates -- but why not let them hold one? I can only see positives??? Reaching the Fox bubble, and it's not like Sean Hannity will sit there and commentating it live?
    Yeah I don’t really see a downside. I mean it’s not like the Fox News opinion show hosts aren’t going to comment on the debates on other channels. It’s a chance to have you whole message heard in real time without Hannity telling his lemmings what to think.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471

    Pete Buttigieg is a cool cat!

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Pete Buttigieg is a cool cat!

    Super smart guy.
    hippiemom = goodness
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