Elizabeth Warren vows to break up tech giants if elected president

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I would say if you got the power to break up 3 of the largest corporations, then just maybe, the government has to much power.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would say if you got the power to break up 3 of the largest corporations, then just maybe, the government has to much power.
    I disagree - a government is supposed to work for the people, and that is exactly what a government would be doing if it managed to disrupt what is clearly growing into a corporatocracy. If someone doesn't take steps to try and stop that now, it will soon be too late... It might already be too late.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,588
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would say if you got the power to break up 3 of the largest corporations, then just maybe, the government has to much power.
    Two words:

    Standard Oil
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,588
    My other question is what about

    Apple?
    Berkshire Hathaway?  They make a move and the whole stockmarket can change.
    Johnson & Johnson?

     I'm sure there are oil companies I could add?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    tempo_n_groove said:
    My other question is what about

    Apple?
    Berkshire Hathaway?  They make a move and the whole stockmarket can change.
    Johnson & Johnson?

     I'm sure there are oil companies I could add?
    Yes, there are many corporations/monopolies that should be broken up.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    edited March 2019
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
    She's actually extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and grounded.  She is what's considered wonky when it comes to policy.  Having a different opinion doesn't make one person sane and the other nuts; it's just a differing opinion. 

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I would say if you got the power to break up 3 of the largest corporations, then just maybe, the government has to much power.
    I disagree - a government is supposed to work for the people, and that is exactly what a government would be doing if it managed to disrupt what is clearly growing into a corporatocracy. If someone doesn't take steps to try and stop that now, it will soon be too late... It might already be too late.
    Totally agree, right on.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,757
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
    She's actually extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and grounded.  She is what's considered wonky when it comes to policy.  Having a different opinion doesn't make one person sane and the other nuts; it's just a differing opinion. 

    I absolutely love her. She is inspiring and super-smart and rational and mature, and far enough left for me to basically support everything she does. If I were American I would absolutely be hoping for her to win this thing, rather than Bernie. I also like Kamala Harris, but not as much as Warren. I still like Bernie too... it's the hype/anti-hype around Bernie that I don't like right now. It's annoying AF.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    PJ_Soul said:
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
    She's actually extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and grounded.  She is what's considered wonky when it comes to policy.  Having a different opinion doesn't make one person sane and the other nuts; it's just a differing opinion. 

    I absolutely love her. She is inspiring and super-smart and rational and mature, and far enough left for me to basically support everything she does. If I were American I would absolutely be hoping for her to win this thing, rather than Bernie. I also like Kamala Harris, but not as much as Warren. I still like Bernie too... it's the hype/anti-hype around Bernie that I don't like right now. It's annoying AF.
    Again, totally agree.  I like Bernie but if it comes down to Sanders or Warren, it's Warren all the way for me. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
    She's actually extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and grounded.  She is what's considered wonky when it comes to policy.  Having a different opinion doesn't make one person sane and the other nuts; it's just a differing opinion. 

    I absolutely love her. She is inspiring and super-smart and rational and mature, and far enough left for me to basically support everything she does. If I were American I would absolutely be hoping for her to win this thing, rather than Bernie. I also like Kamala Harris, but not as much as Warren. I still like Bernie too... it's the hype/anti-hype around Bernie that I don't like right now. It's annoying AF.
    Again, totally agree.  I like Bernie but if it comes down to Sanders or Warren, it's Warren all the way for me. 
    I never got on the Bernie train. Liked him before the last election but not so much now. 

    Warren was robbed the position as head of the CFPB. She basically did all of the work to create that department. So she became a Senator. 

    America doesn't like wonks, which is a shame. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,772
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    njnancy said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    She is nuts.  Please tell me what those companies are doing that is so wrong, besides making money.  And those 3 companies could pack up and leave the US in heartbeat...and setup operations elsewhere.  It's likely a moot point, she is not becoming POTUS.  She should 1st aspire to get elected as Cheif of her 1st nations reserve and help her people.../s
    That is why I wondered why you thought this subject deserved its own thread TBH. This seems more fit for a more general Warren thread, which does exist (several do actually) We can have new threads for every little thing anyone running says from now until the primaries.
    But she's not nuts at all. She's just not an American capitalist.
    She's actually extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and grounded.  She is what's considered wonky when it comes to policy.  Having a different opinion doesn't make one person sane and the other nuts; it's just a differing opinion. 

    I absolutely love her. She is inspiring and super-smart and rational and mature, and far enough left for me to basically support everything she does. If I were American I would absolutely be hoping for her to win this thing, rather than Bernie. I also like Kamala Harris, but not as much as Warren. I still like Bernie too... it's the hype/anti-hype around Bernie that I don't like right now. It's annoying AF.
    Again, totally agree.  I like Bernie but if it comes down to Sanders or Warren, it's Warren all the way for me. 
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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I’m starting to warm up to Warren more. I like that she’s a wonk. 

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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    I think Warren would do well with white blue collar women or baby boomer aged white women who might have voted Trump in 2016.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,558
    I think she will be gone by something as simple as:

    1. Trumps Pocahontas thing will taint her too much,
    2. Her voice will be considered non pleasing and whiny


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  • riley540
    riley540 Denver Colorado Posts: 1,132
    She’s an idiot. Out of touch. Big government power sucks ass and nobody wants it 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,558
    riley540 said:
    She’s an idiot. Out of touch. Big government power sucks ass and nobody wants it 
    Name one western democracy with this "big government" you are so afraid of that works worse than the US?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,458
    riley540 said:
    She’s an idiot. Out of touch. Big government power sucks ass and nobody wants it 
    Ok, what's the balance then, since you think her statement means too much government control? I don't think the continued monopolitization of a few large companies is going to do any good unless you're the wealthy elite.

    Also, isn't it a bit hypocritical of a Trump supporter to call someone else an idiot and out of touch? How is Trump helping bridge the gap or do anything besides secure his own wealth? He's nothing but a con artist and a crook, but God (you know, the one from an official Trump signed bible) forbid you or any of the other minions care about that shit.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,391
    riley540 said:
    She’s an idiot. Out of touch. Big government power sucks ass and nobody wants it 
    Compelling argument.
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