The Democratic Candidates

mrussel1 · March 2019

I figured I would start a thread to discuss the merits (and lack thereof if appropriate) of potential candidates for the Democratic nomination. According to Ballotpedia, here is the current list:

Cory Booker (D), a U.S. senator from New Jersey, announced that he was running for president on February 1, 2019.[6]
Pete Buttigieg (D), the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, announced that he was running for president on January 23, 2019.[7]
Julian Castro (D), a former U.S. secretary of housing and urban development and San Antonio mayor, formally announced his candidacy on January 12, 2019.[8]
John Delaney (D), a former U.S. representative from Maryland, filed to run for president on August 10, 2017.
Tulsi Gabbard (D), a U.S. representative from Hawaii, announced that she had decided to run for president on January 11, 2019.[9]
Kirsten Gillibrand (D), a U.S. senator from New York, announced that she was running for president on January 15, 2019.[10]
Kamala Harris (D), a U.S. senator from California, announced that she was running for president on January 21, 2019.[11]
John Hickenlooper (D), a former governor of Colorado, announced that he was running for president on March 4, 2019.[2]
Jay Inslee (D), the governor of Washington, announced that he was running for president on March 1, 2019.[12]
Amy Klobuchar (D), a U.S. senator from Minnesota, formally announced she was running for president on February 10, 2019.[13]
Bernie Sanders (I), a U.S. senator from Vermont, announced that he was running for president on February 19, 2019.[4]
President Donald Trump (R) filed to run for re-election in 2020 on January 20, 2017.
Elizabeth Warren (D), U.S. senator from Massachusetts, announced she had formed an exploratory committee on December 31, 2018.[14] She formally announced she was running for president on February 9, 2019.
Bill Weld (R), a former governor of Massachusetts, announced that he had formed an exploratory committee on February 15, 2019.[5]
Marianne Williamson (D), an author and lecturer, announced she was running for president on January 28, 2019.[15]
Andrew Yang (D), an entrepreneur and author from New York, filed to run for president on November 6, 2017.

mrussel1 · March 2019

Here's my first criticism.. Elizabeth Warren announced she wants to break up the tech giants. She has chosen Facebook, Amazon and Google to start. I am completely against such action for one simple reason; they aren't monopolies. You could argue FB, but I don't even know what service they provide. But the other two are most clearly not monopolies even if she uses the phrase "platform utilities" 20x in one sentence. We all have additional search and and shopping choices. We choose those two because they are the best. That's competition.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elizabeth-warren-amazon-google-facebook_n_5c827b6ae4b0d93616273346

cincybearcat · March 2019

Man - lots to cover in this thread

How about I start with N, Y, N, N, N, N, maybe, Y, N, Y, N, N, N, N, N, N.

mrussel1 · March 2019

cincybearcat said:

Man - lots to cover in this thread

How about I start with N, Y, N, N, N, N, maybe, Y, N, Y, N, N, N, N, N, N.

Theoretically it will get whittled down.

njnancy · March 2019

I had no idea that Marianne Williamson was running.

I am a huge fan of her self help books and lectures.

I don't see this going anywhere though.

Thanks for the list - I think Biden will be added to it pretty soon. He's said everything but the actual words at this point.

I like Biden (if he announces) with a one term promise running with Harris, Klobuchar, Booker, Castro.....Warren is smart as a whip but I think she is unfairly tainted. Bernie is in the 'go away' column for me.

Buttelieg is very impressive but name recognition is not there and I like Inslee in there just to keep the Climate Change debate front and center.

I also like John Hickenlooper for various reasons. But I think it's gonna be Biden with a woman - who knows though.

Need to see actual policy debate/discussion between them to see who rises to the top in not just ideas but actual thought out ways to make said ideas realistic.

I need to read the article before I can give an opinion on the topic - I do believe that Facebook better stop acting like 'we're just connecting the world for good' and fess up to the empire they are and start acting like grown ups and protect their users. They are connected to almost every type of app and there needs to be some sort of 'rules' established. But I need to dig into more facts (which are kinda hard to get from tech giants).

This could be interesting - let's hope we can keep this thread open.

And Trump announced re election before he ever took the oath for his first term - I think I knew this but just seeing it again and knowing all that's occurred shows how he has been just a leach on the public from the very beginning. IMHO.

Hi! · March 2019

Do they have to put a person of color on the ticket to win? That’s my biggest question. Also, what ever happened to Bill Richardson. Would he be a good vp option?

Hi! · March 2019

I’m going with Biden/Booker 2020. I’m sure my opinion will change hourly.

mrussel1 · March 2019

Hi! said:

I’m going with Biden/Booker 2020. I’m sure my opinion will change hourly.

Biden/Booker
Biden/Harris

Biden calls himself a one termer, to re-stabilize the country from the chaos. I'm all down with that.

Hi! · March 2019

Booker seems like he would bring the energy and positivity over Harris. I like the idea of Booker against Pence in a debate.

Hi! · March 2019

The one term thing with Biden sounds gimmicky and distracting. Could be risky.

mrussel1 · March 2019

Hi! said:

The one term thing with Biden sounds gimmicky and distracting. Could be risky.

Well it would hopefully help to mitigate concerns about his age. He has a few years on Trump. I'm personally done with the Baby Boomers, but there are still many who vote.

Hi! · March 2019

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

mrussel1 · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

There's no Tina Fey to go on TV and destroy Booker like Palin. Harris and Booker are serious politicians with real experience, not a dingbat. McCain didn't lose because of Palin, although it didn't help. McCain lost because Obama was an exceptional candidate.

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

There's no Tina Fey to go on TV and destroy Booker like Palin. Harris and Booker are serious politicians with real experience, not a dingbat. McCain didn't lose because of Palin, although it didn't help. McCain lost because Obama was an exceptional candidate.

that's not what I was responding to (Tina Fey). the comment was that they can't play the socialism card against biden, well, they can if they play the "age" game like they did with McCain. i was not suggesting that Palin was as qualified a candidate as Booker or Harris.

She was a governor, however. Just a "different" one. :l:lol:

mrussel1 · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

There's no Tina Fey to go on TV and destroy Booker like Palin. Harris and Booker are serious politicians with real experience, not a dingbat. McCain didn't lose because of Palin, although it didn't help. McCain lost because Obama was an exceptional candidate.

that's not what I was responding to (Tina Fey). the comment was that they can't play the socialism card against biden, well, they can if they play the "age" game like they did with McCain. i was not suggesting that Palin was as qualified a candidate as Booker or Harris.

She was a governor, however. Just a "different" one. :l:lol:

Oh I see. I haven't seen much from Booker or Harris on the New Deal stuff. They both strike me as centrist, Booker in particular.

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

There's no Tina Fey to go on TV and destroy Booker like Palin. Harris and Booker are serious politicians with real experience, not a dingbat. McCain didn't lose because of Palin, although it didn't help. McCain lost because Obama was an exceptional candidate.

that's not what I was responding to (Tina Fey). the comment was that they can't play the socialism card against biden, well, they can if they play the "age" game like they did with McCain. i was not suggesting that Palin was as qualified a candidate as Booker or Harris.

She was a governor, however. Just a "different" one. :l:lol:

Oh I see. I haven't seen much from Booker or Harris on the New Deal stuff. They both strike me as centrist, Booker in particular.

it seems the right likes to label and demonize any young democrat senator as "socialist".

OnWis97 · March 2019

Might have a chance against Trump:

Beto O'Rourke: Most Obama-like in terms of a personality that will attract moderate voters (and voters in general to hit the polls).

No chance against Trump:

Booker
Buttigieg
Castro
Delaney
Gabbart
Gillibrand
Harris
Hickenlooper
Inslee
Klobuchar
Sanders
Warren
Williamson
Weld
Yang
Joe Biden
The Starbucks guy with the "I want my taxes lower" platform.

jeffbr · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hi! said:

I don’t see the Republicans being able to play the Socialism card very effectively against Biden.

they'll play the same card democrats played with John McCain: "he's old. if he dies, can we really imagine Palin as president?"

same will happen if it's a biden/booker or harris ticket.

There's no Tina Fey to go on TV and destroy Booker like Palin. Harris and Booker are serious politicians with real experience, not a dingbat. McCain didn't lose because of Palin, although it didn't help. McCain lost because Obama was an exceptional candidate.

that's not what I was responding to (Tina Fey). the comment was that they can't play the socialism card against biden, well, they can if they play the "age" game like they did with McCain. i was not suggesting that Palin was as qualified a candidate as Booker or Harris.

She was a governor, however. Just a "different" one. :l:lol:

Oh I see. I haven't seen much from Booker or Harris on the New Deal stuff. They both strike me as centrist, Booker in particular.

it seems the right likes to label and demonize any young democrat senator as "socialist".

You are exactly right. In fact, I was speaking with a couple of people recently who seem to be FauxNews viewers and they use Socialist and Democrat interchangeably. It's very confusing trying to have rational conversations with people who have their own definitions for words.

mrussel1 · March 2019

Iowa poll...

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/03/09/politics/cnn-iowa-poll-biden-sanders-top-tier/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

Meltdown99 · March 2019

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