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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    edited March 2019
    Foolish move by dems to block Fox News from debates.  Not everyone who watches is pro Trump and that network dominates the ratings.  

    To me it it is a conclusive sign that the next election will have candidates that represent the far extremes and people in the middle will not have a viable candidate and be forced to choose from the lesser of evils. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Screw Faux News and their propaganda machine. People who watch Faux are Team Trump Treason’s base and the inconvertible. And fuck Rupert.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Jason P said:
    Foolish move by dems to block Fox News from debates.  Not everyone who watches is pro Trump and that network dominates the ratings.  

    To me it it is a conclusive sign that the next election will have candidates that represent the far extremes and people in the middle will not have a viable candidate and be forced to choose from the lesser of evils. 
    Yeah I think this is a mistake.

    I bet thebither networks are not supportive...opens the door for a Fox News only GOP debate moving forward.

    This is not getting better, it’s making it worse.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    Of Course Democrats Shouldn’t Let Fox News Host a Primary Debate


    In it, Mayer reveals that, in 2016, a Fox reporter named Diana Falzone had acquired hard evidence of both Trump’s affair with Stormy Daniels and his efforts to buy her silence — only to have an editor kill her story, telling her, in so many words, “Good reporting, kiddo. But Rupert wants Donald Trump to win.” After the mogul’s victory, the network demoted Falzone. She then sued, and won a settlement that included a nondisclosure agreement.

    There are many things you can call a media organization that punishes its employees for digging up stories that are politically inconvenient for the Republican Party — “a legitimate news network” is not one of them.

    Nevertheless, the DNC’s announcement (bafflingly) inspired “tsk, tsks” from some corners of the Fourth Estate. The AP’s Zeke Miller said of the Democrats’ decision on Twitter, “if you aren’t prepared for tough questions/subjects in a primary debate, how will you handle the general?” NBC News reporter Jonathan Allen echoed this sentiment, tweeting, “There are plenty of quality journalists at Fox, some of whom have been excellent questioners at past presidential debates. And really, if you can’t answer questions — especially if they’re not the questions you want asked — maybe you don’t have good answers.”

    The core premise of both these tweets — that Democrats are turning down Fox because they are afraid of tough questions — is bizarre. Imagine someone invites you to play ping-pong at a bar known primarily for hosting dogfights in its basement. If you refuse, is that proof that you are afraid of a competitive game of ping-pong? If you were assured that this bar — where men go to coerce dogs into mauling each other — has plenty of quality ping-pong tables, would you therefore have no excuse not to attend? Or could you reasonably express the concern that those ping-pong tables, as nice as they are, appear to function primarily as a means of softening the image of a fundamentally evil enterprise that deserves to be shunned by all right-thinking people?

    This is not a perfect analogy. But, as stipulated above, Fox News is a racist, Republican propaganda outfit that throws a couple of journalists out front to keep up appearances, like so many ping-pong tables at a dogfight bar.

    After all, we are talking about a channel whose most-watched program is hosted by one of the Republican president’s most influential advisers. By his own account, Sean Hannity speaks with Donald Trump every night. By the Washington Post’s, White House advisers refer to the cable host as their “shadow chief of staff.” Ahead of the 2018 midterms, Hannity joined Trump onstage at a campaign rally. Two years before that, the host defended himself from allegations of pro-Trump bias by exclaiming, “I’m not a journalist!”

    The channel’s second-most-watched show is hosted by man who accused the Democratic Party of “plotting a coup” last summer, one that would use immigrants as its shock troops. Tucker Carlson has also told his viewers that immigrants make “our own country poorer and dirtier.” He has excoriated Macy’s for selling fashionable hijabs (insisting that corporations have a moral responsibility not to cater certain forms of consumer demand), and scolded PayPal for refusing to provide payment services to the white nationalist website VDare (insisting that corporations had a responsibility to serve all would-be customers). White nationalists understandably love him.


    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/dnc-wont-let-fox-news-host-2020-democratic-primary-debate.html

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    ^
    They're making a mistake. As bad as Fox is, Shep Smith and Chris Wallace are quality journalists. I'd put a stipulation in that one of those two be the moderators. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    total mistake. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,834
    The Juggler said:
    ^
    They're making a mistake. As bad as Fox is, Shep Smith and Chris Wallace are quality journalists. I'd put a stipulation in that one of those two be the moderators. 


    Perhaps the DNC should stipulate its willing to have Fox host one under the conditions that they will be treated fairly. But that ain't happening.

    Its not like the DNC is scared of tough questions, it's the ownership and management of the station is biased against them and is guilty of tipping questions to Trump (something the Rs referred to as "rigging an election" when Hillary and Brazile did it).

    But that's not fox' worst crime. Rupert buries a significant story containing criminal activities a week before the election because he wanted Trump to win is disgusting. Fix News  should have the word NEWS ripped from its name.


  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2019
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    my2hands said:
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Bentleyspop said:
    my2hands said:
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
    The headline of this article from a few days ago is great. The actual stuff in the article is incredible....and frightening. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    ^
    They're making a mistake. As bad as Fox is, Shep Smith and Chris Wallace are quality journalists. I'd put a stipulation in that one of those two be the moderators. 


    Perhaps the DNC should stipulate its willing to have Fox host one under the conditions that they will be treated fairly. But that ain't happening.

    Its not like the DNC is scared of tough questions, it's the ownership and management of the station is biased against them and is guilty of tipping questions to Trump (something the Rs referred to as "rigging an election" when Hillary and Brazile did it).

    But that's not fox' worst crime. Rupert buries a significant story containing criminal activities a week before the election because he wanted Trump to win is disgusting. Fix News  should have the word NEWS ripped from its name.


    You're absolutely right....I just feel like, politically, this doesn't help them. It makes them look weak to a large segment of the electorate. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    my2hands said:
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
    The headline of this article from a few days ago is great. The actual stuff in the article is incredible....and frightening. 
    And yet people still take focksnooze seriously.
    As if they were a real, balanced,  unbiased, and fair news organization. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited March 2019
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    my2hands said:
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
    The headline of this article from a few days ago is great. The actual stuff in the article is incredible....and frightening. 
    And yet people still take focksnooze seriously.
    As if they were a real, balanced,  unbiased, and fair news organization. 
    The stuff in this article is just bat shit crazy though. Fox has always leaned right....but it has jumped off the deep end these last few years. 

    We live this every day and are pretty much immune to it by this point. But just the idea of a president in this constant feedback loop with a cable channel is fucking nuts. Getting his ideas from the dopey morning show. Live tweeting the channel throughout the day. Promoting their contributor's books (as if he's ever read anything since middle school). This is the twilight zone. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    Bentleyspop said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    my2hands said:
    So you're telling me the highest rated cable news station in America is nothing but controlled propaganda and fake news?

    Interesting
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house
    The headline of this article from a few days ago is great. The actual stuff in the article is incredible....and frightening. 
    And yet people still take focksnooze seriously.
    As if they were a real, balanced,  unbiased, and fair news organization. 
    Well, it does make sense when you connect the dots.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/21/a-rigorous-scientific-look-into-the-fox-news-effect/#64b7880c12ab

    It's no secret to advertisers that the average Fox News viewer has less formal education and income than the average New York Times reader.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    Considering Trump's direct relationship with Fox News, I think it is absolutely, completely appropriate that Fox News not be allowed to host a debate.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Exactly. I don't get what the fuss is about. It is the party's primary. It is the party's debate. If the Dems don't want Fox News hosting a Dem primary debate, that makes all the sense in the world. If the GOP only want Fox to host its GOP primary debates, who cares? When it comes to debates between party candidates for the Genearl, then things will have to balance out, but for party primary debates, the parties should decide.
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  • cincybearcat
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    jeffbr said:
    Exactly. I don't get what the fuss is about. It is the party's primary. It is the party's debate. If the Dems don't want Fox News hosting a Dem primary debate, that makes all the sense in the world. If the GOP only want Fox to host its GOP primary debates, who cares? When it comes to debates between party candidates for the Genearl, then things will have to balance out, but for party primary debates, the parties should decide.
    Not a bad point.

    I just think that it will continue to drive the division and it certainly allows opposition to cry..."See they only want the Fake News"...ironically of course.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    cincybearcat said:
    jeffbr said:
    Exactly. I don't get what the fuss is about. It is the party's primary. It is the party's debate. If the Dems don't want Fox News hosting a Dem primary debate, that makes all the sense in the world. If the GOP only want Fox to host its GOP primary debates, who cares? When it comes to debates between party candidates for the Genearl, then things will have to balance out, but for party primary debates, the parties should decide.
    Not a bad point.

    I just think that it will continue to drive the division and it certainly allows opposition to cry..."See they only want the Fake News"...ironically of course.
    No doubt about that. I agree with you that it is bad optics which will definitely generate memes, unfortunately.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,661
    edited March 2019
    jeffbr said:
    Exactly. I don't get what the fuss is about. It is the party's primary. It is the party's debate. If the Dems don't want Fox News hosting a Dem primary debate, that makes all the sense in the world. If the GOP only want Fox to host its GOP primary debates, who cares? When it comes to debates between party candidates for the Genearl, then things will have to balance out, but for party primary debates, the parties should decide.
    The fact that Trump has Fox News in his back pocket... almost like a state-controlled news network, which Trump really really wants badly ... that makes it very problematic either way IMO. Whether it's for the primaries or not, I'm sure everyone would appreciate a non-biased debate, right?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    I actually agree with jeffbr on this. The parties can decide for themselves who moderates. But my concern was that Trump had stated (or at least I read that he stated) he would not participate in any debate that isn't hosted by Fox. I assumed that meant the general election. 
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