2020 Tour Rumor Thread

whoanelly15 said:

JimmyV said:

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

The bright side is always that if there won't be any touring then maybe there will be some recording.

Honestly I think most of us thought 2017 was the year for that with 2018 being the album touring year. I hope you are right this time. 

I know I did. I'm still kind of shocked they weren't finishing up the album last fall.

I think that the impact of Chris’ death on all of this is being seriously underestimated. Unfortunately, a lot of things changed when he passed. Plans, inspirations, motivations... I can only imagine how bad this hurt all of them. I just hope that they are (or will) find the creative and recording process to be positive, maybe even healing. I am sure that will be part of what any new music gives us fans, whenever it comes. 

To me, this might be the most logical explanation for why Can’t Deny Me was released as the first single for a forthcoming new album, only to have the whole concept completely change course. Time will tell. I’m just glad we have time and that Mike, Stone, Matt, Jeff and Eddie are all healthy and (hopefully) happy. And Boom! Sorry, Boom. 

Lost In Ohio said:

whoanelly15 said:

JimmyV said:

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

The bright side is always that if there won't be any touring then maybe there will be some recording.

Honestly I think most of us thought 2017 was the year for that with 2018 being the album touring year. I hope you are right this time. 

I know I did. I'm still kind of shocked they weren't finishing up the album last fall.

I think that the impact of Chris’ death on all of this is being seriously underestimated. Unfortunately, a lot of things changed when he passed. Plans, inspirations, motivations... I can only imagine how bad this hurt all of them. I just hope that they are (or will) find the creative and recording process to be positive, maybe even healing. I am sure that will be part of what any new music gives us fans, whenever it comes. 

To me, this might be the most logical explanation for why Can’t Deny Me was released as the first single for a forthcoming new album, only to have the whole concept completely change course. Time will tell. I’m just glad we have time and that Mike, Stone, Matt, Jeff and Eddie are all healthy and (hopefully) happy. And Boom! Sorry, Boom. 

Here's what I think.

The Bataclan attack changed their plans for 2016. Apparently, they had a European summer 2016 tour all lined up and then canceled it when the attacks happen. We know this. The east coast 2016 tour wasn't supposed to happen. (Maybe Fenway and Wrigley, but certainly not Florida, South Carolina, Bonnaroo, Telluride, etc.)

Chris died in May 2017. We saw Eddie on stage in Europe that summer. Obviously, it messed him up.

Perhaps there's an alternate universe:
The Bataclan doesn't get attacked. Pearl Jam does Europe in June/July 2016, then they come home and do Wrigley and Fenway. Chris doesn't die and LP2 is released a few months later in September 2017. Soundgarden does their US 2017 tour, Matt takes a few months off, Can't Deny Me is released with the new album and US tour in summer 2018, similar to 2013.

And it's not just Eddie, but Matt was in Detroit and on stage that night.

We also know that the band has been in a gradual wind-down since Backspacer. Remember the rumor about the 5-8 song EP as a quick follow-up? That lead into PJ20, a Brad tour, Ukulele Songs and a lot of other side project stuff?

One of the biggest issues is that they don't have a label or corporate-level suits to appease. They don't need to keep their name out there by touring and releasing like they did in the 90s. They know they can do 2-3 shows per year and get fans from 10 different countries and 3-4 different continents.

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

whoanelly15 said:

JimmyV said:

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

The bright side is always that if there won't be any touring then maybe there will be some recording.

Honestly I think most of us thought 2017 was the year for that with 2018 being the album touring year. I hope you are right this time. 

I know I did. I'm still kind of shocked they weren't finishing up the album last fall.

I think that the impact of Chris’ death on all of this is being seriously underestimated. Unfortunately, a lot of things changed when he passed. Plans, inspirations, motivations... I can only imagine how bad this hurt all of them. I just hope that they are (or will) find the creative and recording process to be positive, maybe even healing. I am sure that will be part of what any new music gives us fans, whenever it comes. 

To me, this might be the most logical explanation for why Can’t Deny Me was released as the first single for a forthcoming new album, only to have the whole concept completely change course. Time will tell. I’m just glad we have time and that Mike, Stone, Matt, Jeff and Eddie are all healthy and (hopefully) happy. And Boom! Sorry, Boom. 

Here's what I think.

The Bataclan attack changed their plans for 2016. Apparently, they had a European summer 2016 tour all lined up and then canceled it when the attacks happen. We know this. The east coast 2016 tour wasn't supposed to happen. (Maybe Fenway and Wrigley, but certainly not Florida, South Carolina, Bonnaroo, Telluride, etc.)

Chris died in May 2017. We saw Eddie on stage in Europe that summer. Obviously, it messed him up.

Perhaps there's an alternate universe:
The Bataclan doesn't get attacked. Pearl Jam does Europe in June/July 2016, then they come home and do Wrigley and Fenway. Chris doesn't die and LP2 is released a few months later in September 2017. Soundgarden does their US 2017 tour, Matt takes a few months off, Can't Deny Me is released with the new album and US tour in summer 2018, similar to 2013.

And it's not just Eddie, but Matt was in Detroit and on stage that night.

We also know that the band has been in a gradual wind-down since Backspacer. Remember the rumor about the 5-8 song EP as a quick follow-up? That lead into PJ20, a Brad tour, Ukulele Songs and a lot of other side project stuff?

One of the biggest issues is that they don't have a label or corporate-level suits to appease. They don't need to keep their name out there by touring and releasing like they did in the 90s. They know they can do 2-3 shows per year and get fans from 10 different countries and 3-4 different continents.

The CDM new album press release  was almost two and a half years after the Paris attacks. I agree that horrible attack threw their timing off but not sure how it impacted that March 2018 press release and it's inaccuracy thereafter.

I believe most fans agree on their right to go as slow as they wish. But announcing a new album then not addressing that press release subsequently is not fair to the fans. Oh well life ain't fair.

The common thread to most of the frustrations amongst fans is complete lack of communication. 

Vedd Hedd said:

This one time, my kid wanted me to help put a lego set together, and I said, "Ok, lets do that when we get home."   Later that day, we got home, and I was too tired.  And I said, "Hey, i know i said we would do this tonight, but Im tired, lets just watch a movie instead."   Kid was a bit upset, but we put it together a few days later. 

Point, they can say what they want, and have the ability to change their minds.  I'm not being an "apologist" here, as I really REALLY need some new music, and would love an actual arena tour.   And I am frustrated.   But, they have been playing music for 30+ years.  There have been some rough times lately, with deaths and tragedies.  They have families, they have security.   Shit just happens sometimes and plans change. 

It seems they had some loose plans for some stuff, and it didnt come together yet, but I'm sure it will at some point.  

BrainofBGA said:

Vedd Hedd said:

This one time, my kid wanted me to help put a lego set together, and I said, "Ok, lets do that when we get home."   Later that day, we got home, and I was too tired.  And I said, "Hey, i know i said we would do this tonight, but Im tired, lets just watch a movie instead."   Kid was a bit upset, but we put it together a few days later. 

Point, they can say what they want, and have the ability to change their minds.  I'm not being an "apologist" here, as I really REALLY need some new music, and would love an actual arena tour.   And I am frustrated.   But, they have been playing music for 30+ years.  There have been some rough times lately, with deaths and tragedies.  They have families, they have security.   Shit just happens sometimes and plans change. 

It seems they had some loose plans for some stuff, and it didnt come together yet, but I'm sure it will at some point.  

This band is pretty smart...find it strange someone would be given the all clear to announce a forthcoming album release. Before saying forthcoming album you should be pretty certain what’s been recorded or going to be will eventually make an album. Forthcoming release says to me that recording’s nearly
complete and finer details packaging etc..just needs finalising. 

Vedd Hedd said:

Zod said:

BrainofBGA said:

Vedd Hedd said:

This one time, my kid wanted me to help put a lego set together, and I said, "Ok, lets do that when we get home."   Later that day, we got home, and I was too tired.  And I said, "Hey, i know i said we would do this tonight, but Im tired, lets just watch a movie instead."   Kid was a bit upset, but we put it together a few days later. 

Point, they can say what they want, and have the ability to change their minds.  I'm not being an "apologist" here, as I really REALLY need some new music, and would love an actual arena tour.   And I am frustrated.   But, they have been playing music for 30+ years.  There have been some rough times lately, with deaths and tragedies.  They have families, they have security.   Shit just happens sometimes and plans change. 

It seems they had some loose plans for some stuff, and it didnt come together yet, but I'm sure it will at some point.  

This band is pretty smart...find it strange someone would be given the all clear to announce a forthcoming album release. Before saying forthcoming album you should be pretty certain what’s been recorded or going to be will eventually make an album. Forthcoming release says to me that recording’s nearly
complete and finer details packaging etc..just needs finalising. 

It did feel like they were making it up as they went along.  The first announced the song as an xmas single, then as a song from the forthcoming album.   Seemed like a little confusion at the time as to why they released it.  Still not sure it's going to end up as an xmas single either.

Yeah, and that's sort of what I was getting at.  A lot of things happened that we know about during that time period, as well as probably things we dont know about.  

When it comes, it comes.  Again, I would love 40+ city arena tours and albums every 2 years.  But that's not happening, and its their call to make on that.  And they earned that right. 

PJ_Soul said:

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

JimmyV said:

The only residency I would be interested in is Seattle, and only then if it was part of a larger plan to renovate/rebuild/replace the arena and bring back the Sonics.

13 shows at MSG for Phish, who tour constantly and do a variety of interesting, outside the box things every year, seems cool. 13 shows at MSG for Pearl Jam, who does not tour constantly and rarely does interesting or outside the box things, would feel a bit like a cash grab.

I agree with this.

This is supposed to be the plan. I hope it hasn't changed. Kelly Curtis was working with Oak View Group on this. The Key Arena is currently being gutted and renovation has begun. The Seattle NHL team will begin playing there for the 2021 season. It is being promoted as a world class music venue when complete. So hopefully PJ is still a band in 2021 and will begin doing an annual residency there.

I have to say, I'm far more excited about Seattle having an NHL team than I am about the prospect of PJ having some kind of residency at the new hockey arena, lol. Vancouver will finally have a REAL rival where the fans can go to games in both cities easily!! That will be awesome. PJ and a "residency"? That is definitely not going to go like I feel some people imagine it. There is no way PJ is going to be willing to actually play there consistently or regularly or anything close to it IMO. They just aren't there emotionally/mentally anymore, and this idea wouldn't even be possible for another couple years, and unless some kind of miracle happens between now and then, they will be even less motivated to do this by then.

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

PJNB said:

I know what concert I will be going to this year. First albums played front to back. 

Nice. Would be even better if OLP played “clumsy” in its entirety also.