Should women be required to sign up for military draft?

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,073
    josevolution said:
    How about instead of the women your so worried about lets let all the immigrant men who work 100 times harder than any american i know personally including myself to join up for 4yr sting with path to residency and if they joing for life they get path to american citizenship automatically ...
    I don't see how that wouldn't create a giant mess. That's why we have a policy and probably every other country in the world that prevents illegal immigrants from enlisting. 
    The issue of people who aren't legal residents here and still citizens somewhere else is messy. What if there's a military action in their country where they are a citizen? Are we going to give away military secrets and top tech secrets to non-citizens? Are we only going to allow them to be PFC infantry to prevent that, because that wouldn't come across as racist at all.
    No, they just can't join. I didn't think even legal residents could, but I just Googled it and the requirement seems to be a legal and permanent resident with a green card.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,420
    I think technology has made the draft obsolete.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited October 2017

    rgambs said:
    Mandatory military service is a flat out terrible idea.
    America is war hungry and jingoistic enough already, thank you.
    Yeah, this is where I stand too. I can't even imagine how brainwashed the population would be if this were done. I mean, a huge swath of the population is already brainwashed enough when it comes to RA RA USA!! USA!! USA!! WHERE'S MY GUN?! RESPECT THE FLAG! - this would just put it over the top. Scary thought.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    Jason P said:
    I think technology has made the draft obsolete.
    Also agree with this 100%. A draft isn't necessary in any realistic scenario. They just don't need that massive an army anymore. I suppose we could imagine nightmare scenarios where it would make sense, but why go there until it's necessary?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    women should be legally required to sign up, yes. same rules for men and women. equal representation in government has zero to do with it. the men being forced to sign up are not in government, nor are they responsible for those in government making these calls. if both genders want to be treated equally, we can't, as a society, only give them equal "good" treatment. they want it, they get it all. 

    that said, being forced to sign up for fucking anything is abhorrent to me. I'd be a dodger and fucking proud of it. how is considered freedom when you are being forced to do a job you don't want to do?

    But Jose's idea is actually a good one. But then you might run into the whole "putting minorities in the front lines" type of shit again. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    women should be legally required to sign up, yes. same rules for men and women. equal representation in government has zero to do with it. the men being forced to sign up are not in government, nor are they responsible for those in government making these calls. if both genders want to be treated equally, we can't, as a society, only give them equal "good" treatment. they want it, they get it all. 

    that said, being forced to sign up for fucking anything is abhorrent to me. I'd be a dodger and fucking proud of it. how is considered freedom when you are being forced to do a job you don't want to do?

    But Jose's idea is actually a good one. But then you might run into the whole "putting minorities in the front lines" type of shit again. 
    Totally agree, if someone wants to follow the “equal representation” bullshit line of thinking then I would say that only people who sign up for the selective service should be considered for office due to the extra burden/responsibility placed upon them.  Worth mentioning that, currently, men who refuse to sign up for selective service can not hold government office/jobs...
    I do not agree with either stance and also think being forced to sign up is abhorrent.  
  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    PJPOWER said:
    The pentagon is suggesting women be required to sign up for the military draft, just like men between the ages of 18-25.  Should they be required to?  Should only men be drafted and sent to war?
    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/24/pentagon-advocates-requiring-women-to-sign-up-for-/
    Voluntary right?
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    i_lov_it said:
    PJPOWER said:
    The pentagon is suggesting women be required to sign up for the military draft, just like men between the ages of 18-25.  Should they be required to?  Should only men be drafted and sent to war?
    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/24/pentagon-advocates-requiring-women-to-sign-up-for-/
    Voluntary right?
    What do you mean?  Currently mandatory for men 18-25 sign up for the selective services.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2019
    Judge ruled all male draft unconstitutional.  Women will now get to stress about it a bit too when they turn 18 and are forced to sign up for selective service.  Sucks for everybody now!
    Step forward in equality?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-finds-male-only-military-draft-unconstitutional-n975546
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJPOWER said:
    Judge ruled all male draft unconstitutional.  Women will now get to stress about it a bit too when they turn 18 and are forced to sign up for selective service.  Sucks for everybody now!
    Step forward in equality?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-finds-male-only-military-draft-unconstitutional-n975546
    Absolutely...
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJPOWER said:
    Judge ruled all male draft unconstitutional.  Women will now get to stress about it a bit too when they turn 18 and are forced to sign up for selective service.  Sucks for everybody now!
    Step forward in equality?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-finds-male-only-military-draft-unconstitutional-n975546

    I don't think you can demand equality, but only when it suits you.

    This is a step forward in equality.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Judge ruled all male draft unconstitutional.  Women will now get to stress about it a bit too when they turn 18 and are forced to sign up for selective service.  Sucks for everybody now!
    Step forward in equality?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-finds-male-only-military-draft-unconstitutional-n975546

    I don't think you can demand equality, but only when it suits you.

    This is a step forward in equality.
    I totally agree.  Hope the need never comes to fruition again though.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Judge ruled all male draft unconstitutional.  Women will now get to stress about it a bit too when they turn 18 and are forced to sign up for selective service.  Sucks for everybody now!
    Step forward in equality?
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-judge-finds-male-only-military-draft-unconstitutional-n975546

    I don't think you can demand equality, but only when it suits you.

    This is a step forward in equality.
    I totally agree.  Hope the need never comes to fruition again though.

    No kidding.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    Now maybe the draft in general can be deemed unconstitutional.
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