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Best live version of Getaway?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,971
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Which one is the best one - bootleg wise. 

Don't really care for any "The one from city X because I was there and the bootleg can't do it justice" comments etc.

Which one sound the best recorded.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,808
    edited February 2019
    I heard it live at wrigly 2018 for my 1st time and thought it was neat i love time signictures in this song ,but i havent heard it guess i need use my free  bootlege down load ,and listen to it since i dont want to buy the bootlege and then they will come out with the boxset and then i would have two of everything,but yes so many to choose from 
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    treestrees Columbus OHIO Posts: 1,808
    edited February 2019
    I will  go through and listen 
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    e.V Chicago IL 8/21/2008
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    e.V Bailtimore MD 6/14/2009...
    PJ Chicago IL 8/23/2009
    .PJ...Philly PA 10/27/2009 PJ.Philadephia PA 10/28/2009.
    PJ Columbus OH 5/6/2010
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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,754
    I think we are still waiting for it. It has not had a stand out version yet to call it the best of imo. 
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    rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    the BEST
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    PeArLgOoNeRPeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,247
    I think they nailed it in Amsterdam 14.. (but I was there, so maybe I'm biased..)

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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,971
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    I think they nailed it in Amsterdam 14.. (but I was there, so maybe I'm biased..)
    Yeah, I was there too:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYjMLThkt8g
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    rw160510rw160510 Posts: 909
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    I think they nailed it in Amsterdam 14.. (but I was there, so maybe I'm biased..)

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    RK50065RK50065 St. Louis, MO Posts: 885
    NOT Charlotte '13.
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,752
    None 
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    pjrusspjruss Posts: 454
    Unfortunately none in my estimation either. It’s such a great song, but live it’s been underwhelming every time I’ve heard it. 
    I hope they figure it out because the song is great. 
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    I've done the research on this question.  Refused to believe there wasn't a good version of this song.   The answer is Melbourne  Australia January 24th 2014.  It's flawless, look it up.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,971
    wecrazybob said:
    I've done the research on this question.  Refused to believe there wasn't a good version of this song.   The answer is Melbourne  Australia January 24th 2014.  It's flawless, look it up.
    Thank you!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    BrainofBGABrainofBGA Australia Posts: 3,925
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    wecrazybob said:
    I've done the research on this question.  Refused to believe there wasn't a good version of this song.   The answer is Melbourne  Australia January 24th 2014.  It's flawless, look it up.
    Thank you!
    I was at that gig! Big Day Out. Jaw hit the floor when they played it! 
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    SmallestOceansSmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    Check out Trieste 2014.
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    dont think there is any, better studio song in my opinion
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,738
    Definitely a tough song to pull off live but I think the version from Wrigley 2 last year was pretty damn good.
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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,512
    trees said:
    I heard it live at wrigly 2018 for my 1st time and thought it was neat i love time signictures in this song ,but i havent heard it guess i need use my free  bootlege down load ,and listen to it since i dont want to buy the bootlege and then they will come out with the boxset and then i would have two of everything,but yes so many to choose from 
    Glad I finally got it there as well.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    It started out a little choppy in Spokane, but I still think it's a good version.
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    nicknyr15 said:
    None 
    This very well may be the case...
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    wecrazybob said:
    I've done the research on this question.  Refused to believe there wasn't a good version of this song.   The answer is Melbourne  Australia January 24th 2014.  It's flawless, look it up.
    ...but if I had to pick one it'd be this or Sydney 2014. RBO used it on his "Lightning Bolt" live compilation.
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    I've heard Getaway live 3 times and Wrigley #1 2018 was the best one for me.
    Haven't listened to the version from Melbourne that Bob mentioned...
    but I will now!! :rock_on:

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    NatashapearljamfanNatashapearljamfan Australia Posts: 3,777
    rummy said:
    wecrazybob said:
    I've done the research on this question.  Refused to believe there wasn't a good version of this song.   The answer is Melbourne  Australia January 24th 2014.  It's flawless, look it up.
    ...but if I had to pick one it'd be this or Sydney 2014. RBO used it on his "Lightning Bolt" live compilation.



    I agree the Sydney version was pretty good. I'll have to listen to Melbourne again. 
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    drummerboy_73drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    I think they nailed it in Amsterdam 14.. (but I was there, so maybe I'm biased..)
    Yeah, I was there too:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYjMLThkt8g
    I'm sorry, but this sounds awful. I couldn't even tell the intro was this song - detuned really weirdly...half step maybe? Doesn't sound like a full step or even the same key. Anyway, I just wish the band would stop recording songs in a range that's difficult for Ed to sing, then have to detune so he can sing on tour. Gonna See My Friend is what I consider another great rockin' album opener, but live...ugh.
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    Wrigley 2018 night two was almost perfect too, just one little flub up on the lyrics, but that's just splitting hairs.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,971
    drummerboy_73 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    I think they nailed it in Amsterdam 14.. (but I was there, so maybe I'm biased..)
    Yeah, I was there too:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYjMLThkt8g
    I'm sorry, but this sounds awful. I couldn't even tell the intro was this song - detuned really weirdly...half step maybe? Doesn't sound like a full step or even the same key. Anyway, I just wish the band would stop recording songs in a range that's difficult for Ed to sing, then have to detune so he can sing on tour. Gonna See My Friend is what I consider another great rockin' album opener, but live...ugh.
    So tell us a better version drummerboy.

    Btw, haven't thought about Gonna see my friends in years. Maybe time for a Backspacer-revisit.
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    derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    wecrazybob said:
    Wrigley 2018 night two was almost perfect too, just one little flub up on the lyrics, but that's just splitting hairs.
    You sure this wasn't Wrigley #1??
    I don't see Getaway on  the setlist for night #2.
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    Ha, yes night 1.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,971
    Sounds a bit slowed down at Wrigley compared to other versions. But maybe I'm hearing things.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,752
    Again, they still haven’t nailed this. I’m sure they know this, Hence why it’s rarely played. 
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,537
    Trick question.
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