are pearl jam really bothered about releasing a new album anytime soon?

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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited February 2019
    He was saying that its been said before a few times already that he’d record more.  Meaning “Repeated” Like a record that’s broken.  

    The world isnt ending, folks.  


    “When I do those, it’s mostly to clean off the shelves and finish stuff; it’s stuff that has been on the Pearl Jam shelf for a few years and nobody is really responding to it. I think all of us have gotten into the habit of finishing stuff up and putting it out. This is a broken record, but I think I’ve said that I would record a lot more with Pearl Jam if that was what could happen.”
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,877
    evenflow82 said:
    Lightning Bolt is probably PJ's last album. 
    They wouldn't be talking about another album if they didn't fully intend to release one.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    edited February 2019
    cp3iverson said:
    He was saying tha thatgt its been said before a few times already that he’d record more.  Meaning “Repeated” Like a record that’s broken.  

    The world isnt ending, folks.  


    “When I do those, it’s mostly to clean off the shelves and finish stuff; it’s stuff that has been on the Pearl Jam shelf for a few years and nobody is really responding to it. I think all of us have gotten into the habit of finishing stuff up and putting it out. This is a broken record, but I think I’ve said that I would record a lot more with Pearl Jam if that was what could happen.”
    Could be. English is not my mother tongue, so I may miss the syntax or the semantics. It could also be in the way the interview was represented. But the borken record seems to refer to *me*, and I could way be off the ballpark here (or out of it), that it is half done. That they have songs but that they are not happy with the complete picture. But that is my *interpretation*. It doesnt seem to me that the words were used in a repetitive sense, like "I sound like a broken record", but that the record is simply not done yet. I hate these shelf comments btw. Ed made a similar comment in the promo video of LB. (I think he used the word attic.) I am sure they dont mean it this way, but it gives the impression that making an album is factory work. "Oh this is done, now we have more room on the assymbly (sp?) line." As an artist myself I dont believe in this approach. A song or any piece of art is like a living organism. You give it water, sunlight and see how it grows. Sometimes you dont like it and  it ends up in the pile of "not good enough". A pile that is often bigger than the pile "this is it". The funny thing is that the water, sunlight etc. sometimes happens in a few hours - that is often your best work. Other times you have tinker away for months or even years. It misses something - a layer, a dimension, something that makes it greater - and it comes to you during the most inconvenient moments; when you are standing in a long line at the grocery store for example. And you can hit yourself on the forehead that you didnt see it before, for in retrospective it was right in front of you.

    But that is my experience.

    When I sometimes read the quotes of PJ - and they are quotes so caution is necessary - they make it sound that every idea is a source material. That they do not have a "not good enough pile". Which is BS if you think of  it for "Of the Earth" and other outtakes were thrown on that pile.

    In short, I interpret the "broken record" comment more as an inspirational thing. They have some songs, but no direction. As I stated before PJ doesnt only write good songs, they also write cohesive records with often a theme that connects the songs together. For some reason (often personal reasons, a death patch - something every artist goes through; doesnt mean they will break up or anything - we are just not used to it, because as a band they are/ were quite prolific) they are artistically stuck. (Or they are recording as I speak and I blow smoke out of my ass right now.) But each album had something that tied it all together: Vs. was about (inner) struggle (each song deals with this theme), Ten about growing up and coming of age (maybe the reason why so many people connected to it), Vitalogy (also re. the booklet) about conformity and how this is contextualized in space and time, even the albums people throw off as a series of songs had things in common: LB about personal revelations (just think of the title song), BS about going back to their roots (for RA and ST feels a bit awkward to me: RA feels lost and ST almost like an overcompensation) etc. Mind you, this is *my* interpretation. But I can imagine if all five members are not on the same page at the moment or in the same inspirational plane, it can be frustrating. The best art comes if you dont force it. If you as an artist dont stand in between the art and the development of it. (I hope this is clear somehow.) So I see this hiatus more as an inspirational struggle. And no, I do not think and it is wise and even insulting if we as fans start to single out members that are "to blame". We dont know. We do not know the personal circumstances and we do not know the impact Cornell had. Matt was a drummer of Soundgarden for Christs sakes.

    Ok, I stop the monologue now. But this is just my take on it.

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  • Sarava
    Sarava Naperville, IL Posts: 2,063
    It feels like they have slid in to nostalgic act mode. Obviously they are bigger than the nostalgic acts that play suburban 4th of July festivals. They can still pack arenas. Only they know why they has happened. Maybe it's family, maybe it's getting old, maybe the creative juices have dried up...who knows.

    The interviews they have given have indicated the album is in the middle somewhere, so something will come eventually. Hopefully it doesn't as long as Chinese Democracy :)
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Broken record is 100% referring to Jeff repeating himself in interviews that he would like to record more with Pearl Jam.  Very common phrase.  
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    edited February 2019
    bootlegger10 said:
    Broken record is 100% referring to Jeff repeating himself in interviews that he would like to record more with Pearl Jam.  Very common phrase.  
    Like I stated. You could be right. I have no clue what went on in his head or how the comment was rephrased in the article. Maybe it is just wishful thinking from my side. No harm done and it was no attack. It seems like he has a lot of inspiration right now. And 6 years is long for PJ standards. But imagine you're a TOOL fan. 6 albums (including the upcoming one) since 1992/1993. Or if you an APC fan; 13 years between the last album and a cover album; if you are a fan of STP 7 albums since 91/92,  (The death of Scott Weiland was of course tragic, but he left the band before that.) Or other bands and singers: 6 years is more the standard than the exception. This is no critique. But I sometimes feel we are a bit spoiled as fans. We complain when they dont sing 30+ songs and play less than 3 hours, we complain if they dont play that one obscure song during a setlist they *change* every night, we complain because the intervals between the concerts are longer (they are 50+, have families, play at lest 2,5 hours at a minimum - they need the rest; any idea how physical exhausting a show is? Its killing for your joints, not to mention your voice) etc. Etc. Etc. I rather have less shows or more spread out, than shorter shows or shows lacking passion. I rather have a good album than a mandatory album because they feel pushed to make one. And even though I am on this board for many years (longer than my membership) I never, and I mean never, saw fans attack and single out members of the band and stating the delays are his or his fault. How entitled can you get? The truth is, we do not know. Its all conjecture. Hold on to your horses. The album will come. Maybe they slow down. Maybe they will come with a double. We do not know. One thing I do know  over the years, is that they do things on their own terms. And it wouldnt be the first time, they will surprise us with a strange curve ball or do something completly unsuspected. I believe there is still enough fire in them. They just know how to kindle it better.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    cp3iverson said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Im not worried about it.   For older bands its not a money making venture anyway.  Touring is.  They don’t even need to release an album to play arenas so they’re in a rare tier of bands.

    So once they get the urge to lock themselves in the studio it will be worth waiting for.  If they dont then they dont. 
    You are right now defending legacy act:ing.
    Im defending realism.  Five multi-millionaires all with their own projects and passions (music and non-music).   Young kids and wives too.  I’m not expecting them to have the same mad scientist ideals they had when they were 35 (as much as id like them to).  They’ve crept into the same tier as U2 and the Stones as bands who can sell out arenas without an album.  Shit even Journey does.  Older bands dont sell records.  They’ll get two singles out of it that rock radio will care about for three weeks before it’s back to Daughter and Evenflow.  Studio time costs money and more importantly time.  When they get the urge then it’ll be true and pure.  

    same discussion every week :lol:


    It is the same discussion and it is their right in life

    But you left out a significant part of the story.

    It was wrong to make it appear can't dent me was from their "forthcoming" album when no such thing existed and pretend now the band made no such claim 

    (Ed GROWL)

    LITERALLY, as even flow just came on the radio.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,352
    Im surprised this is still on the band's site, and so many fans forget this fact:



    "Pearl Jam's new track from their forthcoming album on Monkeywrench/Republic Records is out now!

    “Can’t Deny Me” was co-produced by Pearl Jam and Brendan O'Brien. The track was recorded in Seattle last month and released as a surprise early download to Ten Club members last Saturday.

    Eddie wrote the song's lyrics set to music written by Mike. Jeff created the single's artwork in collaboration with PJ's longtime Videographer, Kevin Shuss."

  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    I didnt think it was a big thing that I wrote. You could use it metaphorically/ poetically, but I can only concur when you slam a dictionary in my face ;-).

    And regarding "forthcoming": a).it doesnt say anywhere it will not be on the album, so far I know at least and b) they have the right to change their minds. Maybe it doesnt fit with the other tunes or maybe in retrospective they realized the song wasnt that strong or they dont feel the same about it as they did back then. I know they raised expectations but in the worse case scenario we have a b-side.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    edited February 2019
    only reason is that affect the tour plans,,pj are the best live band of all times,,i want  tour to go see the world,meet people ,see shws,live music..live my life to the full..
    i donrt care if they gonna put new music again or not,its their business.if they are ready,want to do it,its welcome..other than that,give me  pj on stage.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,609
    edited February 2019
    When Steven Tyler and Joe Perry were too strung out on drugs and too toxic to get anything done, the other members of Aerosmith got together in the studio anyway. Jeff can make the same comment over and over but he isn't powerless to do anything about it if he wants. Two of them, three of them, four of them, could record music together if they wanted to. Ed not being there doesn't prevent that - if that even is the issue. I have my doubts.


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  • DE4173
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  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,931
    If I have to wait longer to NOT get an album of Cant deny me type songs  Ill keep waiting.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,759
    I asked Methuselah if their next record will be out soon.  He said, "Oh yes, very soon." 

    "Cool", I thought.  But then I remembered Methuselah is 4,852 years old.  Here's a nice photo of him:




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
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  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    brianlux said:
    I asked Methuselah if their next record will be out soon.  He said, "Oh yes, very soon." 

    "Cool", I thought.  But then I remembered Methuselah is 4,852 years old.  Here's a nice photo of him:




    brianlux said:
    I asked Methuselah if their next record will be out soon.  He said, "Oh yes, very soon." 

    "Cool", I thought.  But then I remembered Methuselah is 4,852 years old.  Here's a nice photo of him:




    Well, he has the patience to wait 😉.
  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,876
    Doubt it

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  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    I'm hoping for a new album, but if it doesn't happen, I won't be too disappointed as long as they continue to tour!
    "A beacon on dry land"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,644
    DE4173 said:

    hehe
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • fortyshades
    fortyshades Posts: 1,835
    What is it with the negativity here. Writing songs is as much in their blood as touring. Jesus, if Jeff wants an album out, an album will come. How long do you think a "nostalgic" band will last? Bands that dont evolve devolve. Thousands examples in rock land. Have some patience. Nostalgic rock bands are bands tht stop and comr together after 15+ years. Relax. I think we can use a sendative by now.

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