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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,153
    Team Mueller doesn’t stop until every dot has been connected. Frankly, I don’t care if it doesn’t end until Team Trump Treason has served two full terms. I want justice served. And I want it done right. But I do think you’re going to start to see really damaging evidence coming out of the house committees by fall.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    If you haven’t read up on how Putin on the ritz’s oligarchy operates, how they get things done, who’s involved, the wealth accumulated, what happens when you don’t play nice and how they ingratiate into civilized society, you really should because even with what little we know, Team Trump Treason is modeling it and would become, if left unchecked, a carbon copy. When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.
    I won't thank Mueller (he's doing his job, what's there to thank for him for?) but I am glad there are checks and balances, of course. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.
    I won't thank Mueller (he's doing his job, what's there to thank for him for?) but I am glad there are checks and balances, of course. 
    Because Team Mueller is not a partisan hack, like say, Kenneth Starr? Served honorably, has devoted his life to serving his nation? Sees what’s going on as a threat to the foundations of democracy and is disgusted by it? 
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.
    I won't thank Mueller (he's doing his job, what's there to thank for him for?) but I am glad there are checks and balances, of course. 
    Because Team Mueller is not a partisan hack, like say, Kenneth Starr? Served honorably, has devoted his life to serving his nation? Sees what’s going on as a threat to the foundations of democracy and is disgusted by it? 
    I didn't say he was a partisan hack, or that he hasn't served his country honorably. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,153
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.
    I won't thank Mueller (he's doing his job, what's there to thank for him for?) but I am glad there are checks and balances, of course. 
    Because Team Mueller is not a partisan hack, like say, Kenneth Starr? Served honorably, has devoted his life to serving his nation? Sees what’s going on as a threat to the foundations of democracy and is disgusted by it? 
    I didn't say he was a partisan hack, or that he hasn't served his country honorably. 
    But you asked why you should thank him. I gave you a few reasons. To each their own.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    When it’s all said and done, you’ll thank Team Mueller and be glad there are checks and balances.
    I won't thank Mueller (he's doing his job, what's there to thank for him for?) but I am glad there are checks and balances, of course. 
    Because Team Mueller is not a partisan hack, like say, Kenneth Starr? Served honorably, has devoted his life to serving his nation? Sees what’s going on as a threat to the foundations of democracy and is disgusted by it? 
    I didn't say he was a partisan hack, or that he hasn't served his country honorably. 
    But you asked why you should thank him. I gave you a few reasons. To each their own.
    Oh I got ya. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
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    it's a sad state off affairs when we are now thanking people for doing their job correctly. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    As frustrating as this is...and it is frustrating; I have big-time fatigue....I think it makes a certain amount of sense that this takes longer than Watergate.  I think it just has so many more tangents.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,549
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a sad state off affairs when we are now thanking people for doing their job correctly. 
    And the flip, which is magas criticizing Mueller for doing his job correctly. A new one I’ve heard lately is that is Mueller had anything on trump, it would’ve leaked already. 
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    As frustrating as this is...and it is frustrating; I have big-time fatigue....I think it makes a certain amount of sense that this takes longer than Watergate.  I think it just has so many more tangents.
    I agree. Patience is key and I’m resigned to the fact that even when all is said & done, we may never know the full picture.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
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    Go Beavers said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a sad state off affairs when we are now thanking people for doing their job correctly. 
    And the flip, which is magas criticizing Mueller for doing his job correctly. A new one I’ve heard lately is that is Mueller had anything on trump, it would’ve leaked already. 
    I can honestly see that angle of it, because if you turn it around, and obama was being investigated, many on the left would be saying the same thing. 
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,239
    Mueller is wasting all our time and money.  Just admit you don’t have shit on Trump already, Bob, and fucking end it.  It doesn’t take 3 years to admit you don’t have shit.  He’s just trying to save face at this point so he doesn’t lose his job for wasting everyone’s time and assets.  And no, it doesn’t matter to anyone that he got 15 or however many people found guilty of completely unrelated stuff- his job was to find trump guilty of collusion, not to use local swat teams to bring people in for perjury.  He’s made a mockery of the fbi and investigations of government employees.  Just let Trump keep acting like an adolescent while he reverses Obama’s stuff, and make a change in 2020 -the way it’s supposed to work.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Mueller is wasting all our time and money.  Just admit you don’t have shit on Trump already, Bob, and fucking end it.  It doesn’t take 3 years to admit you don’t have shit.  He’s just trying to save face at this point so he doesn’t lose his job for wasting everyone’s time and assets.  And no, it doesn’t matter to anyone that he got 15 or however many people found guilty of completely unrelated stuff- his job was to find trump guilty of collusion, not to use local swat teams to bring people in for perjury.  He’s made a mockery of the fbi and investigations of government employees.  Just let Trump keep acting like an adolescent while he reverses Obama’s stuff, and make a change in 2020 -the way it’s supposed to work.
    No it was not.  His job is not to "go after Trump" it's to find the truth. And the Truth does not have to be about Trump himself; investigations by police and other enforcing agencies routinely uncover other crimes.  Are you seriously suggesting he should let other crimes go and be myopically focused on one guy?

    I don't actually think anything will come of this in regards to Trump and I think 2020 is the first chance to get him out (though he'll probably win) but I also don't think Mueller is nearly as political as you seem to think he is. He's not "saving face."  He doesn't need to do that.  He keeps finding new shit...there's a lot of stuff here.
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Mueller is wasting all our time and money.  Just admit you don’t have shit on Trump already, Bob, and fucking end it.  It doesn’t take 3 years to admit you don’t have shit.  He’s just trying to save face at this point so he doesn’t lose his job for wasting everyone’s time and assets.  And no, it doesn’t matter to anyone that he got 15 or however many people found guilty of completely unrelated stuff- his job was to find trump guilty of collusion, not to use local swat teams to bring people in for perjury.  He’s made a mockery of the fbi and investigations of government employees.  Just let Trump keep acting like an adolescent while he reverses Obama’s stuff, and make a change in 2020 -the way it’s supposed to work.
    And here we have Trump's base train of thought. It really is something to behold.

    Just a little food for thought, last I heard, Mueller's investigation was turning a profit. So this whole waste of money point is a joke.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
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    2018
    The Juggler said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Anyone following the National Enquirer vs. Jeff Bezos kerfluffle? Bok, bok, bok, bacock! Chickens coming on home. To roost.

    Tweets like these rattle me, I must admit. They're what scare me most about Trump. There are millions of people taking something away from these kinds of Tweets. It's a lot more dangerous than some give it credit for IMO.
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    mfc2006 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    As frustrating as this is...and it is frustrating; I have big-time fatigue....I think it makes a certain amount of sense that this takes longer than Watergate.  I think it just has so many more tangents.
    I agree. Patience is key and I’m resigned to the fact that even when all is said & done, we may never know the full picture.
    There’s so many people involved and it covers many years, that it’s to quickly get confused and overwhelmed by the implications and enormity if it’s true. What Mueller is getting at is a widespread network of crime and corruption that involves both corporate/organizarions (e.g. NRA), political leaders, and heads of governments. Trump is a big piece of this. It’ll likely come out, with not just Russia, but UAE, Saudis, and Israel were involved in the deal making and election involvement. 

    Today’s example is the Bezos-Pecker stuff. To the casual observer (and this includes many in the media who aren’t connecting things) it looks like just another stupid National Enquirer story, but it ties into all of this corruption surrounding trump. 
  • josevolution
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Mueller is wasting all our time and money.  Just admit you don’t have shit on Trump already, Bob, and fucking end it.  It doesn’t take 3 years to admit you don’t have shit.  He’s just trying to save face at this point so he doesn’t lose his job for wasting everyone’s time and assets.  And no, it doesn’t matter to anyone that he got 15 or however many people found guilty of completely unrelated stuff- his job was to find trump guilty of collusion, not to use local swat teams to bring people in for perjury.  He’s made a mockery of the fbi and investigations of government employees.  Just let Trump keep acting like an adolescent while he reverses Obama’s stuff, and make a change in 2020 -the way it’s supposed to work.
    lol another great post ...
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    The wheels of justice turn slowly.
    That's the truth. Like you, my father his very interested in this Mueller investigation. I complained to him a few weeks ago that it's taking way too long and suggested that Mueller is dragging it out so he can reveal his findings when it could hurt Trump in the 2020 election. He disagreed on the "dragging it out" claim, and noted that the Watergate investigation took even longer. I get where he's coming from with that comparison, but that was like 40 years ago. You'd think they'd be able to do things quicker these days.
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