Eddie vedder EU tour 2019

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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    I just think that the connection came from real rumors and albums coming out.   Back in 1998-2006, we had albums coming out every few years, tours moved much faster, information seemed to leak a lot more.  The rumor pit always seemed to help get some of that info out.  

    Strangely, in the time of social media, we feel less connected, because there is/seems to be actual information to leak.  They have released 1 album in almost 10 years.  (Backspacer came out in Sept 2009).   They dont do full massive tours (like DMB for example) every year, so there is just less info to be communicated. 
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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    bootlegger10 said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives. 

    Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
    Perhaps it is just a realization that Pearl Jam is what matters most to you.  Ed is a big piece of it, but at the end of the day you love Pearl Jam.

    But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival,  I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.     

    bootlegger10 said:
    pdalowsky said:
    Many people will go to these shows and have the best nights of their lives. 

    Yet Im troubled by the fact that this is the least excited ive ever been by a tour. It genuinely bothers me, but im putting it down to venue sizes........
    Perhaps it is just a realization that Pearl Jam is what matters most to you.  Ed is a big piece of it, but at the end of the day you love Pearl Jam.

    But yeah, I don’t think I will go to many PJ shows where I am 30+ yards from stage unless a festival,  I want to be close enough where I watch the band and not the screens.     
    there is no  comparison between eddie solo and pj for me..if pj was coming to europe the thought in my mind would be to do the whole tour and skip a couple of difficult to go festivals..
    now with ev solo i say..yeah lets go and see a couple of shows..would be great nights  
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  • DSchmitz
    DSchmitz Posts: 26
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2019
    What has the loss of Chris to do in this context
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited February 2019
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.

    But they also have to work, which differ.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    They don't have a choice.  EV can play when and where he wants, or not at all.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.

    But they also have to work, which differ.
    Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • weremin23
    weremin23 Posts: 320
    Be nice to finally get a list of full dates some time soon,  Trickling these out is frustrating.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    100 Pacer said:
    Good on Ed. 
    And good on the fans that still want more than the Ed family vacation tour of songs written years ago...

     he just doesnt have the catalog to still be doing solo shows without new music in my opinion... this isn't Neil Young pulling from 50 years and 50 albums of material
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.

    But they also have to work, which differ.
    Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families. 
    Yeah that could be the reason and I know what you mean about a lot of people working away too.
    As a father of 4 I have to work away maybe 2 - 3 nights a week every week. (I'm in Glasgow right now and live in Cambridgeshire!)... But - if PJ went on tour like they used to, it can be months away while kids are at school. Which I wouldn't accept - I'd change jobs! Even though I used to like playing live in my band! haha!.
    The current schedules kind of allow for that one Summer school break and they can tour with their families.  I think that's fair enough.
    I also think they have to balance commercial interest and they do that be keeping the touring to a lower level when there's no album to promote...
    I can't really understand how there's been no album music since 2013 though.. Or how the last 2 albums were clearly not recorded as a band altogether. Guess it might be same reasons around being away from family / kids for long periods...

    I do think we get a lot of opportunities to see the band live though - whether PJ or Eddie they do a fair amount of reachable shows over the years. I remember the 6 year gap between 2000 and 2006... Led me to go crazy every Euro Tour since!

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I'm personally glad the fans want more and arent just "grateful for what they get"... what kind of shit is that? It sucks watching the best band on the planet just coast and stop being creative 
  • BlueLedbetter
    BlueLedbetter Posts: 1,377
    Can anybody help with Italian ? It looks like there are buses from and to Milan and Turin is that right after the show or are they regular daytime buses ? I don't speak Italian but it looks like that from the festival site ? 
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.

    But they also have to work, which differ.
    Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families. 
    Or maybe it is about their families and trying to avoid some of the things that have ravaged their own lives and relationships along the way and those of close friends that do/did tour pretty obsessively.    

    These guys would be the first to tell you and genuinely mean they have been blessed to make an extremely good living of off art, but they'd also be totally dishonest if they did not say the experience is equally taxing in different ways.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    PB11041 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    DSchmitz said:
    It’s time to come to terms with the idea that Pearl Jam isn’t here to serve us. They’re people with families and lives of their own. They experienced a horrific blow with the loss of Chris. Be grateful for what we get at this point. They’ve given us a lifetime of music and memories!
    I hate the family excuse. People with families have jobs and travel for business all the time. 
    People with families work a lot more and harder than these guys do.

    But they also have to work, which differ.
    Absolutely true. But I m guessing the only reason they don’t want to play is because they simply don’t want to play live. It isn’t about their families. 
    Or maybe it is about their families and trying to avoid some of the things that have ravaged their own lives and relationships along the way and those of close friends that do/did tour pretty obsessively.    

    These guys would be the first to tell you and genuinely mean they have been blessed to make an extremely good living of off art, but they'd also be totally dishonest if they did not say the experience is equally taxing in different ways.  
    ^^^this
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2019
    In Sweden I think you get like 4-500 days paid parental leave to be with your child - by law. And many dads prioritise to be home with their kids when they're growing up.

    I get that it's not like that in the US (yet).

    But I don't see it being that weird someone in the band decided to spend time as a "staying-home-dad" when the opportunity was given to them. No economic stress etc.

    But I also think that Pearl Jam might have become "a job". And why spend time at your "job" when you don't need to.

    I mean, if it was what you lived for -- we would be swimming in albums and christmas singles.
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    I think for some folks, coming to grips with aging while a favorite band ages is proving to be an interesting experience.  I'd be very happy if Pearl Jam were releasing new and interesting music every 2-3 years or at least touring each year like some bands get out and do.  But I can't say I am shocked that they don't.  This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    PB11041 said:
    This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there. 
    Yeah, I mean KISS even had to cancel tours in the 80s!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PB11041 said:
    I think for some folks, coming to grips with aging while a favorite band ages is proving to be an interesting experience.  I'd be very happy if Pearl Jam were releasing new and interesting music every 2-3 years or at least touring each year like some bands get out and do.  But I can't say I am shocked that they don't.  This is not a historical first that a very good band sort of ends the creative portion of their career and comes back for small bursts of performances here and there. 
    And guess what, that blows, and people are allowed to say it blows


  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    I guess since Barolo already went on sale, we could feasibly get a full tour announcement tomorrow or Friday. Hopefully. 
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