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HesCalledDyer · January 2019

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.

What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Halifax2TheMax · January 2019

I’ve got 0-0 in my work square betting pool. I never win but it definitely makes the game a lot more fun. Would love a 10-0 first, 20-10 half time, 30-20 third and a 60-50 final.

JK_Livin · January 2019

That would already be a $500 winner in my pool. $125 a block. Every score wins $500 including 0-0 and extra points after TD's so 6-0 & 7-0 both would get $500. Last score gets the balance.

Poncier · January 2019

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

Poncier · January 2019

Halifax2TheMax said:

I’ve got 0-0 in my work square betting pool. I never win but it definitely makes the game a lot more fun. Would love a 10-0 first, 20-10 half time, 30-20 third and a 60-50 final.

Beats the hell out of getting the 2-2 square.

JK_Livin · January 2019

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I thought they were caught filming the Rams walk throughs days before the SB?

pjhawks · January 2019

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

ok dude

ed243421 · January 2019

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/01/24/put-patriots-rams-walkthrough-tape-to-bed-super-bowl/

ed243421 · January 2019

Type your https://yourteamcheats.com/what-is-spygate

pjhawks · January 2019

JK_Livin said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I thought they were caught filming the Rams walk throughs days before the SB?

and the tapes were destroyed. yea nothing to see there. if you believe that i got a bridge to sell ya

JK_Livin · January 2019

Breaking a rule is cheating.

HesCalledDyer · January 2019

JK_Livin said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I thought they were caught filming the Rams walk throughs days before the SB?

That was reported by the Boston Herald from the infamous "unnamed source." No evidence was found and the Herald retracted the article and issued an apology for running it.

Poncier · January 2019

JK_Livin said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I thought they were caught filming the Rams walk throughs days before the SB?

Nope, made up story. See link in Eric's post 3 above.

Poncier · January 2019

pjhawks said:

JK_Livin said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I thought they were caught filming the Rams walk throughs days before the SB?

and the tapes were destroyed. yea nothing to see there. if you believe that i got a bridge to sell ya

From Eric's link above:

May 13, 2008: Roger Goodell shows footage to media.

Though Goodell and the NFL did destroy the initial wave of footage, he at least learned from that moment. After meeting with a former Patriots video assistant named Matt Walsh — a man who claimed to have evidence of serious filming violations — Goodell determined that Walsh did not in fact possess such evidence.

And before Goodell spoke to the media in New York about his meeting, he played the footage provided by Walsh to the assembled media.

The NFL plays footage provided by Matt Walsh to the media prior to a Roger Goodell press conference in New York in 2008. (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

And that was, according to all confirmed reports, all the NFL ever had on the Patriots. Footage of coaches standing on the sideline, giving signals. Footage that would have been legal to obtain if it had been filmed from a location “enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead.” That was the violation the Patriots committed. Filming from the sidelines, instead of a room with walls and a roof, went against what the NFL wanted to allow teams to do.

HesCalledDyer · January 2019

It's funny how Belichick, Brady, and the Patriots were never "cheaters" until Roger Goodell (from Buffalo area, college near Pittsburgh) became commissioner. For whatever reason, he has something out for them. Two very sad attempts now to make the organization into a case study.

Ledbetterman10 · January 2019

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I've never cared about any of these stupid "-gate" controversies. For starters, I just hate how "-gate" has been made to be a suffix for a controversy as if the Watergate scandal was about water. That's so dumb. As for delfategate and spygate, (and even bountygate with Saints), I really didn't have much of a problem with any of them. To hate on the Patriots or call them cheaters for those dumb "gates" reeks of jealousy.

But just because I don't think their "gates" are a big deal, many people do. And if you're going to defend them, you gotta come up with something better than suggesting it's not cheating, it's just breaking a rule. What the fuck? Lining up offsides is breaking a rule, but not cheating. Roughing the passer is breaking a rule, but not cheating. But trying to get unfair advantages by spying or tampering with equipment? That's cheating.

Poncier · January 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I've never cared about any of these stupid "-gate" controversies. For starters, I just hate how "-gate" has been made to be a suffix for a controversy as if the Watergate scandal was about water. That's so dumb. As for delfategate and spygate, (and even bountygate with Saints), I really didn't have much of a problem with any of them. To hate on the Patriots or call them cheaters for those dumb "gates" reeks of jealousy.

But just because I don't think their "gates" are a big deal, many people do. And if you're going to defend them, you gotta come up with something better than suggesting it's not cheating, it's just breaking a rule. What the fuck? Lining up offsides is breaking a rule, but not cheating. Roughing the passer is breaking a rule, but not cheating. But trying to get unfair advantages by spying or tampering with equipment? That's cheating.

There's the thing, do you know what Spygate really was?
They didn't "spy", they just taped from the wrong area on the field, an area that had been legal up until that season. Taping the Jets sideline wasn't illegal, it was just not allowed to be done where they did it, it now had to be done from a location “enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." (See the post a few above. Basically they changed the rule that you had to tape from someplace like the press box and not the sideline, but the Pats still taped from the sideline. SO t was a violation of a rule , as opposed to cheating which is doctoring the system somehow...there is a distinction.

Famously Bob Kraft asked Belichick in the wake of things on a scale of 1 to 100 how much advantage was there taping where they were caught, Belichick replied "1". and Kraft told him "you're a real schmuck".

They never taped any opponent practices (Sorry Marshall Faulk), its just once something gets in the media folks believe it as fact, like Chris Mortensen's tweet that "11 of 12 footballs were below allowable PSI" in the deflategate aftermath. That was not the case, and Mortensen has said he got bad info but of course never deleted the tweet claiming to not know how.

HesCalledDyer · January 2019

Ledbetterman10 said:

Poncier said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Wobbie said:

Butt-hurt Steeler fan at KDKA apparently feeling threatened that one man could soon have as many championships as their entire franchise and won't be able to brag about "Six Rings!" anymore.

the graphics guy just told the truth. unfortunately in today's world that got him fired.

I don't recall him ever cheating. The organization, maybe, but even then "Spygate" is a bit of a crock. It was never illegal to videotape opposing coaches signals, but there are designated areas to do so and the Patriots did it outside of those areas. What the hell does it matter where you do the taping if the taping itself isn't illegal? "Defaltegate" has been scientifically proven to be a crock of shit.
What got the graphics guy fired is being a butt-hurt little baby and putting the integrity of the network at stake, not because he was "telling the truth."

Yeah defining Spygate as "cheating" is a big stretch. It was breaking a rule. There's a difference, but some folks just won't acknowledge that fact.

I've never cared about any of these stupid "-gate" controversies. For starters, I just hate how "-gate" has been made to be a suffix for a controversy as if the Watergate scandal was about water. That's so dumb. As for delfategate and spygate, (and even bountygate with Saints), I really didn't have much of a problem with any of them. To hate on the Patriots or call them cheaters for those dumb "gates" reeks of jealousy.

But just because I don't think their "gates" are a big deal, many people do. And if you're going to defend them, you gotta come up with something better than suggesting it's not cheating, it's just breaking a rule. What the fuck? Lining up offsides is breaking a rule, but not cheating. Roughing the passer is breaking a rule, but not cheating. But trying to get unfair advantages by spying or tampering with equipment? That's cheating.

But they didn't spy or tamper with equipment. Videotaping was legal, they just did it outside the designated area defined by the NFL. If video taping itself is legal, why does it matter where it's done? That's just breaking a rule. Not even gonna talk about the footballs (I assume that's what you mean by tampering with equipment).

I totally agree with you on the -gate suffix. It's so overplayed and stupid!! Like you said, Watergate wasn't a scandal about water, it was the name of the damn hotel!

Ledbetterman10 · January 2019

Poncier said:

SO t was a violation of a rule , as opposed to cheating which is doctoring the system somehow...there is a distinction.

Eh whatever ya have to tell yourself. Like I said, I have no problems with the Patriots' alleged cheating. I respect the hell out of the Patriots. But that may be the Stockholm Syndrome talking because I'm a Dolphins fan.

pjhawks · January 2019

and Aaron Hernandez wasn't a murderer...ok

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