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The Juggler said:

Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 

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Cliffy6745 said:

Gonna be at the party tonight and I assume that stupid trophy will be there.  May have to trip and bump it over.

Have you seen one of the rings, in person, yet?  Holy shitballs.  Impressive.

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The Juggler said:

Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 

only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?

You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/

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pjhawks said:

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pjhawks said:

The Juggler said:

Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 

only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?

You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/

When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 

You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
For example:
In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

Beat it, Liz.

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The Juggler said:

Making an argument of wanting to run a two minute drill all game is essentially the same argument my brother’s mother in law was trying to make to us on Thanksgiving. Think it through, takes. And give that chick101footballforgirls.com a look when you have the chance. 

only in the NFL would doing something less successful on the norm be a plan.  #thinksthatmakenosense

Let me guess you would have kicked the extra point and went to overtime too right?

You know, when my brother's wife's mom, Liz, made the same argument you are making this is what I told her. I said, "Liz, if teams ran the 2 minute drill all game long and everyone knew they were just going to pass all the time it would not work. It would be way too predictable. Defenses would adjust and drop 8 maybe even 9 men into coverage to counter (if all the other team was doing was passing). The offense would score some points but they would score really quickly and not chew up any time on the clock. Every incomplete pass stops the clock. So the opposing offense would just ram the ball down their throats and take up over 45 minutes on the clock and your defense would be gassed by halftime. It's called a two minute drill for a reason. Doing it all game is not sustainable." Don't be like Liz, 'Takes. 


Loved the decision to go for two. Also loved how there was no delay in making that decision. Great coaching.


edit--ha, even the Philadelphia Soul don't pass the ball 80% of the time. 79% in the arena league and this guy wants it to be the norm in the NFL. You're watching the wrong league, Liz:
http://www.arenafan.com/teams/Philadelphia_Soul-99/statistics/

When did I ever say they say they should run the 2 minute drill all game? never once said that. Just believe they should pass a lot more than they do. You don't have to go uptempo to throw the ball.

And I think against certain teams and QBs they should be dropping 8 or 9 into pass coverage. We had this argument before when you tried to tell me the Patriots were winning because of Steven Ridley and not Tom Brady.  Every time a team with a really good or better QB runs the ball with a running back it's a win for the defense. Almost 100% it's better for the D when you run. Only when killing the clock is it better for the offense to run the ball.  It's just not even debatable in today's NFL. 

You keep wondering why offenses have success at the end of halves and games and are suggesting they run that offense during the entire game. That's the 2 minute drill they're running. 

Never said the Pats won because of Stephen Ridley. The Patriots, by far the most successful team of this century with one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, are a great example of why winning teams do not put EVERYTHING on their quarterback's shoulders. They've always had a balanced 60/40-ish attack and those runs are not coming only at the end of the game when they are killing the clock.
For example:
In the first half of all games this year, the Pats have a 61/39 pass/run ratio
In the first half of all games last year, the Pats had a 62/38 pass/run ratio
In the first half of all games in 2016, the Pats had a 59/41 pass/run ratio

This is with, possibly, the greatest quarterback of all time. Having a semblance of balance to your game plan is how you win football games consistently, year in, year out. This has not changed since this argument began in 2010 when you wanted the Eagles to throw it 80% with Mike Vick. 

Beat it, Liz.

I don't wonder why they have success at the end of the halves, I KNOW why they have success. It's not the tempo or the timing it's the plays.  pass pass pass.   you pass with a good QB you move the ball. not complicated. why can't you get that through your head?

Anyway nice to revert to name calling.  most of us grew out of that by high school.

Even the arena league doesn’t pass the ball as often as you’re suggesting NFL teams do on a regular basis. There has never been logic to back up your claims and there never will, Liz.