Worst Pearl Jam song ever....

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rummy said:

vaggar99 said:

SBM on LB is a nice that has some nice texture to it. it might have been better saved as a b-side though.

What's a b-side?

I have a friends who has thought for her entire life that B-sides are the "worst" songs on an album, and that's why they are on side B of the album instead of side A. So all her life she's gone into every single album thinking side B is essentially a throw away as far as the artist is concerned. She had no clue that the term is related to single releases, lol.

my dad hates reissues with bonus tracks. he thinks "if it wasn't released back then, it's for a reason". it's hard for me to get that he, as a big music fan, doesn't understand that a good song on its own just may not fit the flow of the record and is therefor left off.

i think it might have to do with the cash grab aspect. as in "they taking songs that didn't make the cut, and now making double off of them". i kind of get it. that's why I loved Lost Dogs. no reissue bullshit. just mostly bad songs that didn't make the cut. hahahhah

that might be part of it, but he won't even listen to the songs that are newly released. I mean, he could buy them individually (or even just listen to them) on iTunes, but he chooses not to. He really believes that if it wasn't released when recorded, it shouldn't be released at all.

rummy · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rummy said:

vaggar99 said:

SBM on LB is a nice that has some nice texture to it. it might have been better saved as a b-side though.

What's a b-side?

I have a friends who has thought for her entire life that B-sides are the "worst" songs on an album, and that's why they are on side B of the album instead of side A. So all her life she's gone into every single album thinking side B is essentially a throw away as far as the artist is concerned. She had no clue that the term is related to single releases, lol.

my dad hates reissues with bonus tracks. he thinks "if it wasn't released back then, it's for a reason". it's hard for me to get that he, as a big music fan, doesn't understand that a good song on its own just may not fit the flow of the record and is therefor left off.

i think it might have to do with the cash grab aspect. as in "they taking songs that didn't make the cut, and now making double off of them". i kind of get it. that's why I loved Lost Dogs. no reissue bullshit. just mostly bad songs that didn't make the cut. hahahhah

that might be part of it, but he won't even listen to the songs that are newly released. I mean, he could buy them individually (or even just listen to them) on iTunes, but he chooses not to. He really believes that if it wasn't released when recorded, it shouldn't be released at all.

Was he okay with the release of, say, Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane or Hey Jude/Revolution as non-album singles?

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

rummy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rummy said:

vaggar99 said:

SBM on LB is a nice that has some nice texture to it. it might have been better saved as a b-side though.

What's a b-side?

I have a friends who has thought for her entire life that B-sides are the "worst" songs on an album, and that's why they are on side B of the album instead of side A. So all her life she's gone into every single album thinking side B is essentially a throw away as far as the artist is concerned. She had no clue that the term is related to single releases, lol.

my dad hates reissues with bonus tracks. he thinks "if it wasn't released back then, it's for a reason". it's hard for me to get that he, as a big music fan, doesn't understand that a good song on its own just may not fit the flow of the record and is therefor left off.

i think it might have to do with the cash grab aspect. as in "they taking songs that didn't make the cut, and now making double off of them". i kind of get it. that's why I loved Lost Dogs. no reissue bullshit. just mostly bad songs that didn't make the cut. hahahhah

that might be part of it, but he won't even listen to the songs that are newly released. I mean, he could buy them individually (or even just listen to them) on iTunes, but he chooses not to. He really believes that if it wasn't released when recorded, it shouldn't be released at all.

Was he okay with the release of, say, Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane or Hey Jude/Revolution as non-album singles?

yes, because non-album singles were commonplace back then, and they were released soon after recording. it's the stuff that gets released decades later that he assumes won't be any good if it took that long to release.

rummy · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

rummy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rummy said:

vaggar99 said:

SBM on LB is a nice that has some nice texture to it. it might have been better saved as a b-side though.

What's a b-side?

I have a friends who has thought for her entire life that B-sides are the "worst" songs on an album, and that's why they are on side B of the album instead of side A. So all her life she's gone into every single album thinking side B is essentially a throw away as far as the artist is concerned. She had no clue that the term is related to single releases, lol.

my dad hates reissues with bonus tracks. he thinks "if it wasn't released back then, it's for a reason". it's hard for me to get that he, as a big music fan, doesn't understand that a good song on its own just may not fit the flow of the record and is therefor left off.

i think it might have to do with the cash grab aspect. as in "they taking songs that didn't make the cut, and now making double off of them". i kind of get it. that's why I loved Lost Dogs. no reissue bullshit. just mostly bad songs that didn't make the cut. hahahhah

that might be part of it, but he won't even listen to the songs that are newly released. I mean, he could buy them individually (or even just listen to them) on iTunes, but he chooses not to. He really believes that if it wasn't released when recorded, it shouldn't be released at all.

Was he okay with the release of, say, Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane or Hey Jude/Revolution as non-album singles?

yes, because non-album singles were commonplace back then, and they were released soon after recording. it's the stuff that gets released decades later that he assumes won't be any good if it took that long to release.

There's a small part of me that agrees with your dad! Although I am grateful for Lost Dogs and those three additional tracks that were included on Radiohead's OK Computer reissue last year.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

rummy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rummy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

vaggar99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rummy said:

vaggar99 said:

SBM on LB is a nice that has some nice texture to it. it might have been better saved as a b-side though.

What's a b-side?

I have a friends who has thought for her entire life that B-sides are the "worst" songs on an album, and that's why they are on side B of the album instead of side A. So all her life she's gone into every single album thinking side B is essentially a throw away as far as the artist is concerned. She had no clue that the term is related to single releases, lol.

my dad hates reissues with bonus tracks. he thinks "if it wasn't released back then, it's for a reason". it's hard for me to get that he, as a big music fan, doesn't understand that a good song on its own just may not fit the flow of the record and is therefor left off.

i think it might have to do with the cash grab aspect. as in "they taking songs that didn't make the cut, and now making double off of them". i kind of get it. that's why I loved Lost Dogs. no reissue bullshit. just mostly bad songs that didn't make the cut. hahahhah

that might be part of it, but he won't even listen to the songs that are newly released. I mean, he could buy them individually (or even just listen to them) on iTunes, but he chooses not to. He really believes that if it wasn't released when recorded, it shouldn't be released at all.

Was he okay with the release of, say, Strawberry Fields Forever/Penny Lane or Hey Jude/Revolution as non-album singles?

yes, because non-album singles were commonplace back then, and they were released soon after recording. it's the stuff that gets released decades later that he assumes won't be any good if it took that long to release.

There's a small part of me that agrees with your dad! Although I am grateful for Lost Dogs and those three additional tracks that were included on Radiohead's OK Computer reissue last year.

those 3 tracks are some of the my fave RH tracks ever. just gorgeous.

walkunafraid · December 2018

I'm almost surprised anyone has mentioned any song besides Sleeping By Myself.

It's the only PJ song that makes me cringe.

There was a period of time that I avoided spinning LB because I didn't like having to either listen to SBM or jump the needle over it.

What's worse, the band continues to play it live fairly often, despite it being a momentum killer every single time.

Ed's solo version was fine, but I'll never understand the band's (or, umm, Ed's) opinion to re-record it for LB. That was the first time I ever questioned PJ's effort/interest level or the viability of their continued creativity.

At least Foxymophandlemama had some sort of abstract artiness to it, served a purpose, and didn't take itself too seriously. SBM, on the other hand, is just plain lazy.

mcgruff10 · December 2018

Question for everyone that thinks sleeping by myself should have stayed an Ed song: do you think can’t keep should have stayed a pj song or do you like it as an Ed song?

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Question for everyone that thinks sleeping by myself should have stayed an Ed song: do you think can’t keep should have stayed a pj song or do you like it as an Ed song?

I love it as both.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

walkunafraid said:

I'm almost surprised anyone has mentioned any song besides Sleeping By Myself.

It's the only PJ song that makes me cringe.

There was a period of time that I avoided spinning LB because I didn't like having to either listen to SBM or jump the needle over it.

What's worse, the band continues to play it live fairly often, despite it being a momentum killer every single time.

Ed's solo version was fine, but I'll never understand the band's (or, umm, Ed's) opinion to re-record it for LB. That was the first time I ever questioned PJ's effort/interest level or the viability of their continued creativity.

At least Foxymophandlemama had some sort of abstract artiness to it, served a purpose, and didn't take itself too seriously. SBM, on the other hand, is just plain lazy.

i wouldn't be at all surprised if the band was convinced to record it by BoB.

PJ_Soul · December 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Question for everyone that thinks sleeping by myself should have stayed an Ed song: do you think can’t keep should have stayed a pj song or do you like it as an Ed song?

I think the PJ version is vastly superior, but the solo version works on the solo album well.

PJ_Soul · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

walkunafraid said:

I'm almost surprised anyone has mentioned any song besides Sleeping By Myself.

It's the only PJ song that makes me cringe.

There was a period of time that I avoided spinning LB because I didn't like having to either listen to SBM or jump the needle over it.

What's worse, the band continues to play it live fairly often, despite it being a momentum killer every single time.

Ed's solo version was fine, but I'll never understand the band's (or, umm, Ed's) opinion to re-record it for LB. That was the first time I ever questioned PJ's effort/interest level or the viability of their continued creativity.

At least Foxymophandlemama had some sort of abstract artiness to it, served a purpose, and didn't take itself too seriously. SBM, on the other hand, is just plain lazy.

i wouldn't be at all surprised if the band was convinced to record it by BoB.

Neither would I. They really need to move on from that guy badly.

PJNB · December 2018

mcgruff10 said:

Question for everyone that thinks sleeping by myself should have stayed an Ed song: do you think can’t keep should have stayed a pj song or do you like it as an Ed song?

PJ Can't Keep > EV Can't Keep
EV Sleeping By Myself > PJ Sleeping By Myself

PJ doing Sleeping By Myself takes the spot of another song I would rather hear especially where it is always played in the first encore. If I am going to a EV solo show I would prefer not to hear either of those songs to be honest but I am a lot more ok with hearing Can't Keep solo than SBM with PJ.

ledvedderman · December 2018

It was BOB who talked the band into it. I was hoping it would be Without You when it came out that a Uke Songs cut was going to make it on Lightning Bolt. Natalie Maines did a fantastic full band version of Without You and was hoping the band would improve on that.

As for Can’t Keep...I honestly don’t like either version. Not even live. It sounds better on the remaster, but I’ve never ever connected to this song. I don’t know why either? Lyrically, it’s fine. There’s some good stuff there. Musically it’s fine with the band- Matt has a great groove going and there’s some great spacey guitar work taking place. It just doesn’t feel like it goes anywhere. When a song says “you can’t keep me here” the song should elevate some...but there’s no movement. It’s flat. Solo version is a tad better but probably just because we heard that first and was my introduction to the song.

PJNB · December 2018

Parting Ways has been played 7 times in the last 13 years. That is less than 3% of the shows. SBM is played at 20% of the shows in the last 5 years. That is why I hate SBM

mcgruff10 · December 2018

PJNB said:

Parting Ways has been played 7 times in the last 13 years. That is less than 3% of the shows. SBM is played at 20% of the shows in the last 5 years. That is why I hate SBM

Parting ways is amazing live and need to be played every other show.

rummy · December 2018

mcgruff10 said:

PJNB said:

Parting Ways has been played 7 times in the last 13 years. That is less than 3% of the shows. SBM is played at 20% of the shows in the last 5 years. That is why I hate SBM

Parting ways is amazing live and need to be played every other show.

Closing song for the next tour!

HesCalledDyer · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

mcgruff10 said:

Question for everyone that thinks sleeping by myself should have stayed an Ed song: do you think can’t keep should have stayed a pj song or do you like it as an Ed song?

I love it as both.

Same, for both songs.

HughFreakingDillon · December 2018

can't keep i probably resonate with more on the ev version, simply because i listen to uke songs way more than i listen to riot act. i really should change that. sorry mcgruff, RA is a fantastic record.

KN219077 · December 2018

Parting ways really should close shows every once in a while

Gern Blansten · December 2018

HughFreakingDillon said:

can't keep i probably resonate with more on the ev version, simply because i listen to uke songs way more than i listen to riot act. i really should change that. sorry mcgruff, RA is a fantastic record.

It really is...I rediscovered it a few years ago. Cropduster and Half Full blow me away

Worst Pearl Jam song ever....

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