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  • None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Well, the bully did put his hand around the kid's throat.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
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    And who said the sky is falling or the world is ending?

    People are saying it's changing. Are you denying this? Have neo-nazi marches down mainstreet America and demonstrations been happening every year? This insurgence is nothing new- it was just undocumented before?
    That video is not proof of any of the above, especially not a nazi insurgence for gods sake, it's classic bullying

    This is what people mean by sky is falling... every little thing now people take and run with it to extremes... like the stupid proud boys video of one brawl, now everybody thinks they are swarming all over America like a plague of loser white boys assaulting liberals... same with the antifa nonsense

    Do people even talk to anyone in the real world? Stop buying the garbage they are pushing on everybody, i think it's all bullshit, and its bad for ya folks (thanks George)
  • my2hands said:
    I said they were psycopathic war criminals, not sure i can be any more clear on my opinion of that crew...  it wasnt my job to "go after them", it was the job of the guy i voted for... you are actually making my point

    You damn well remember that was an issue, and very soon after his inauguration he said they werent going to look backwards regarding the actions of the previous administration that they were moving forward for the good of the country or some bullshit like that
    But you told me to speak with Obama? As far as I recall, the Obama Administration didn’t waterboard detainees and in fact, shed more light on the secret rendition and torture program put into effect and practiced by Shrub/Darth. Seems you want to hold the black guy to a higher standard? And the repub congress could have held them to account as well but you know, the black guy failed you. As for the sky is falling? Sure seemed like it a couple of weeks ago with all that Dems better figure it out or Team Trump Treason will be re-elected and warnings to turn off the news and go outside schtick. Sheesh, come down off that high horse you usurped.
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  • my2hands said:
    I didnt see any arms get broken, and I'm not excusing or making light of anything. 

    The world can be fucked up, you guys aren't really that naive are you? Like this shit doesnt happen everyday in schools. Literally, every day.

    Sorry, i feel bad for the kid, but losing sleep? 

    Again, not to downplay the expereience of that poor kis, but when i read your guys reaction i was expecting much worse like they stomped the kid out or really tortured him on video, like these fine lads streaming on facebook live...

    https://youtu.be/1IavvBtR_to

    Keep filming it so we can get you off the streets.
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,459
    my2hands said:
    That video is not proof of any of the above, especially not a nazi insurgence for gods sake, it's classic bullying

    This is what people mean by sky is falling... every little thing now people take and run with it to extremes... like the stupid proud boys video of one brawl, now everybody thinks they are swarming all over America like a plague of loser white boys assaulting liberals... same with the antifa nonsense

    Do people even talk to anyone in the real world? Stop buying the garbage they are pushing on everybody, i think it's all bullshit, and its bad for ya folks (thanks George)
    having a discussion regarding the seemingly racially motivated abuse of a 4th grader, and the possibilty that it is related to the current POTUS and the way he speaks publically is not "taking it to extremes". it's discussing current events and how they come to be. 

    feel free to disagree, but many of us are getting tired at the overreaction to the discussion that is completely out of whack with what is actually being discussed and the obvious rational tone therein. 
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    But you told me to speak with Obama? As far as I recall, the Obama Administration didn’t waterboard detainees and in fact, shed more light on the secret rendition and torture program put into effect and practiced by Shrub/Darth. Seems you want to hold the black guy to a higher standard? And the repub congress could have held them to account as well but you know, the black guy failed you. As for the sky is falling? Sure seemed like it a couple of weeks ago with all that Dems better figure it out or Team Trump Treason will be re-elected and warnings to turn off the news and go outside schtick. Sheesh, come down off that high horse you usurped.
    It's interesting that everything is race with you.

    When criminals break the law, i expect the police to do their job. This is an example of that. I was disappointed then, I'm still disappointed now.

    Do you ever disagree with anything a Democrat does,  ever? or just Bernie? Anything at all about the Obama administration that you were disappointed with? Or would that be racist?
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    You expect the dems to investigate everything from Russia to toilet paper now that they have the house 

    But being dissapointed Obama & the dems didn't investigate shit when they had the white house, senate, AND house is somehow racist or being unfair to the black guy? Get the fuck outta here

    What a joke

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  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2018

    I still don't get the joke, sorry...

     America has never been "okay".  I see what goes on.  Bad thing is it's always been going on and people forget that...It's the reason I started listening to punk and reading The Nation.  Because everything isn't okay.

    My new line for any of you that think the world is ending is "The sky isn't falling".

    Who thinks the world is ending (in America)? (the world as we know is likely in the process of ending because this is a new era of mass extinction, but that's not the issue at hand, lol)

    Anyone who thinks literally nothing new and different is going on the USA right now is in denial. Saying so doesn't say that nothing has ever been wrong.
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  • my2hands said:
    It's interesting that everything is race with you.

    When criminals break the law, i expect the police to do their job. This is an example of that. I was disappointed then, I'm still disappointed now.

    Do you ever disagree with anything a Democrat does,  ever? or just Bernie? Anything at all about the Obama administration that you were disappointed with? Or would that be racist?
    Yes, yes I have been. The very issue you speak of as a matter of fact. Except I wouldn't tell someone to "speak with Obama" as it relates to waterboarding. He inherited a mess but didn't create it. Your comparison in this thread is partly whats wrong with politics and government in general. The blame is levied at the wrong person or place.I would have loved for the dems and Obama to appoint a special counsel to get to the bottom of 9/11 (mostly why Saudi Royal Family members were allowed to fly out of the country rather than be held as material witnesses or at the least, not fly like the rest of the wrold was grounded, and the connections between them, the hijackers and funding sources), the run up and misinformation to the Iraq War and the subsequent use of rendition, black sites and torture during the war on terror. I also would have preferred if some Wall Street and corporate types had been charged with  a crime, or a 100,  for the financial collapse. But Obama didn't cause all that shit and had a hell of a lot on his plate to deal with, in the immediate here and now way, than turn everyone's attention, time and effort to causing further disruption, discord and partisanship. I also would have preferred if Obama had stood up to the racism and bullshit of Boehner and McConnell by calling them out more forcefully, publically upbraiding them before the cameras, from everything for refusing the Christmas party invites, "you lie," during the SOTU, "our number one priority is to see this president fail,"  to the repub flip-flop on healthcare or any sother previous legislative issues where Obama compromised and they refused to deal. And the witholding of the Supreme Court nominee. All bullshit but not all Obama's fault. He wanted to close GITMO, had a prison in some podunk Idaho town that wanted the revenue from the transfer and housing, was prepared to try them in court and the repubs freaked out. Its like blaming your sister for the piss poor job of cleaning up after the mess your brother made.

    Speaking of the police, Bernie was one of 100. Where was he?

    I just find it interesting that you place more blame/disappointment/resentment on the black guy, who didn't run on a platform of holding the Bush Administration accountable, BTW, than the white guys before him or after him. And yes, I do believe race comes into play. In everything. Subtly, overtly, outrageously, inadvertently. In everything, everyday.
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  • my2hands said:
    You expect the dems to investigate everything from Russia to toilet paper now that they have the house 

    But being dissapointed Obama & the dems didn't investigate shit when they had the white house, senate, AND house is somehow racist or being unfair to the black guy? Get the fuck outta here

    What a joke
    No, not everything. Russia mostly. But I will take whatever they want to investigate because there's plenty to choose from.

    They were focused on healthcare 2 years after cleaning up the financial mess. Priorities, you know? Because holding Shrub/Darth accountable would have saved dem, union and black jobs in thsoe districts that Hillary needed in 2016, right?

    Did I say you were racist? I made an observation and stated it. You don't think Obama is or has been held to a hgher standard than any president before him? You don't wonder why that is? And Team Trump Treason was going after Obama long before the WH press corps dinner.

    True, the dems had the House for 2 years and a 57 vote majority in the senate at the same time. But it took 60 votes in the senate to pass legislation and Bernie was an independent (caucusing with the dems but still). What do you think should have happened in Congress as it related to Shrub/Darth? Where do you think it would have gone? In the context of everything else going on?
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    Watson, my good friend, we agree on a lot more than you might think
  • my2hands said:
    Watson, my good friend, we agree on a lot more than you might think
    It’s not that I think we disagree but rather to challenge your assumptions.
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    Ferry them to Canada.  Free healthcare and no Trump.  It's a win / win.  Should make everyone here on the Train happy.
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  • Jason P said:
    Ferry them to Canada.  Free healthcare and no Trump.  It's a win / win.  Should make everyone here on the Train happy.
    Would that be via the St. Lawrence Seaway or Panama Canal?
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-arrests-ms-13-223833511.html

    U.S. Border Patrol agents have arrested a member of the infamous Salvadoran MS-13 gang who admitted to authorities that he traveled with a caravan of Central American migrants who were hoping to qualify for asylum in America.

    Agents arrested Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 29, shortly after 6 p.m. on Saturday east of the Calexico Port of Entry on the U.S. side of the border, Customs and Border Protection said in a statement Wednesday.

    During questioning at the El Centro station, the Honduran citizen confessed that he is an active member of MS-13 and had intended to enter the country illegally after traveling to the U.S. with the caravan of thousands of other migrants. He is in custody pending his deportation back to Honduras.

    President Trump has made MS-13 a priority in his crackdown on illegal immigration and said last month that the latest caravan, estimated to consist of as many as 7,000 people, contained MS-13 members.

    “You’re going to find MS-13, you’re going to find Middle Eastern, you’re going to find everything,” he said of the caravan travelers.


    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited November 2018
    mcgruff10 said:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-patrol-arrests-ms-13-223833511.html

    U.S. Border Patrol agents have arrested a member of the infamous Salvadoran MS-13 gang who admitted to authorities that he traveled with a caravan of Central American migrants who were hoping to qualify for asylum in America.

    Agents arrested Jose Villalobos-Jobel, 29, shortly after 6 p.m. on Saturday east of the Calexico Port of Entry on the U.S. side of the border, Customs and Border Protection said in a statement Wednesday.

    During questioning at the El Centro station, the Honduran citizen confessed that he is an active member of MS-13 and had intended to enter the country illegally after traveling to the U.S. with the caravan of thousands of other migrants. He is in custody pending his deportation back to Honduras.

    President Trump has made MS-13 a priority in his crackdown on illegal immigration and said last month that the latest caravan, estimated to consist of as many as 7,000 people, contained MS-13 members.

    “You’re going to find MS-13, you’re going to find Middle Eastern, you’re going to find everything,” he said of the caravan travelers.


    Excellent. That's exactly why everyone wants people to be processed in an orderly fashion as they enter.
    This Middle Eastern thing just sounds a bit crazy to me though. It's just a strange connection/assumption. Right along with "everything", lol.
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Excellent. That's exactly why everyone wants people to be processed in an orderly fashion as they enter.
    This Middle Eastern thing just sounds a bit crazy to me though. It's just a strange connection/assumption. Right along with "everything", lol.
    https://cis.org/Bensman/If-Recent-Patterns-Hold-There-May-Indeed-Be-Terrorists-Inside-Border-Caravan
    “While President Trump may well have employed the prospect of terrorist infiltration as election messaging, Middle Easterners from places like Syria, Iraq, and Egypt do indeed travel the same routes as Hondurans to the U.S. southern border, and rising numbers of suspected terrorists have, in fact, been apprehended at the border or en route in recent years.”
  • Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    PJPOWER said:
    https://cis.org/Bensman/If-Recent-Patterns-Hold-There-May-Indeed-Be-Terrorists-Inside-Border-Caravan
    “While President Trump may well have employed the prospect of terrorist infiltration as election messaging, Middle Easterners from places like Syria, Iraq, and Egypt do indeed travel the same routes as Hondurans to the U.S. southern border, and rising numbers of suspected terrorists have, in fact, been apprehended at the border or en route in recent years.”
    Kay, so let's see the photos of the caravan. Middle Easterners are visually identifiable. They don't look anything like Hondurans. This is why it seems weird to me... If they see some Middle Easterners walking along with these people, then pull them aside and check them out. Just making random assumptions with absolutely no concrete reason so make them makes no sense.
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    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Kay, so let's see the photos of the caravan. Middle Easterners are visually identifiable. They don't look anything like Hondurans. This is why it seems weird to me... If they see some Middle Easterners walking along with these people, then pull them aside and check them out. Just making random assumptions with absolutely no concrete reason so make them makes no sense.

    I am glad to not be the person making that call...Above are pics of Syrian and Honduran immigrants...I highly doubt they wound be advertising that they are Middle Easterners.
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