Idea on how to fix the "holiday single" problem.

Zod · October 2018

To me it should come out the same year you pay dues. If you're in the U2 fan club they usually release their yearly gift early in the year. You might not get it right away if you renew in January, but usually it's done in the first few months of the year. If you renew after that you get it immediately with your membership package.

There's no real need the band needs to wait until the following year. I imagine they have a pretty good estimate how many they need. They must estimate already (as spares always land in the shop). I've been in a few fan clubs (even it was just for tickets) and the PJ one is the only that sends you stuff the year after, or two years after you bought your membership.

Elton John fan club might be the exception. They keep sending me emails and I got random tote bag in the mail a few months ago. I have no idea what's going on with that..... I bought my membership 2 years ago to get presale tickets... lol.

HesCalledDyer · October 2018

Zod said:

To me it should come out the same year you pay dues. If you're in the U2 fan club they usually release their yearly gift early in the year. You might not get it right away if you renew in January, but usually it's done in the first few months of the year. If you renew after that you get it immediately with your membership package.

There's no real need the band needs to wait until the following year. I imagine they have a pretty good estimate how many they need. They must estimate already (as spares always land in the shop). I've been in a few fan clubs (even it was just for tickets) and the PJ one is the only that sends you stuff the year after, or two years after you bought your membership.

Elton John fan club might be the exception. They keep sending me emails and I got random tote bag in the mail a few months ago. I have no idea what's going on with that..... I bought my membership 2 years ago to get presale tickets... lol.

Absolutely ^this!

drummerboy_73 · November 2018

Dear 10C,
So...another month has passed, and only one month left in the year after this one. Are we going to get this year what we paid for a year and a half ago (or longer for some)??? (Given that it's TRULY the 2017 single we're missing due to the one received earlier this year actually being 2016, but with a "misprint" - or was the one received earlier this year really 2017, since it contained material recorded in 2017, and 2016 simply overlooked?)

We get "newsletters" every month with little to no actual news, but plenty of new products being advertised for us to pre-order or spend even MORE money on, when the club hasn't delivered what's been paid for long ago. The annual single isn't a "gift" or a "nice to have" or a "we'll get it when we get it" - it's an item we paid for and due to us under our membership terms.

PLEASE address this and provide us some information - it's the least you can do...and maybe rethink the thing entirely. It's gotten out of hand. Thank you.

on2legs · November 2018

drummerboy_73 said:

Dear 10C,
So...another month has passed, and only one month left in the year after this one. Are we going to get this year what we paid for a year and a half ago (or longer for some)??? (Given that it's TRULY the 2017 single we're missing due to the one received earlier this year actually being 2016, but with a "misprint" - or was the one received earlier this year really 2017, since it contained material recorded in 2017, and 2016 simply overlooked?)

We get "newsletters" every month with little to no actual news, but plenty of new products being advertised for us to pre-order or spend even MORE money on, when the club hasn't delivered what's been paid for long ago. The annual single isn't a "gift" or a "nice to have" or a "we'll get it when we get it" - it's an item we paid for and due to us under our membership terms.

PLEASE address this and provide us some information - it's the least you can do...and maybe rethink the thing entirely. It's gotten out of hand. Thank you.

Thank God you’re on the case! I was afraid they might get away with this caper.

PB11041 · November 2018

PJ_Soul · November 2018

PJForceofNature said:

HesCalledDyer said:

I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.

Same here.

Me too. Actually, not even. I think I've spun a 45 only once or twice in the past 5 years. I obviously have no use for them.

Dr. Delight · November 2018

I havent listened to a holiday single in the past 5 or 6 years. Switched to digital several years ago. No desire to, especially after not being a big fan of the last 2 albums.

FR181798 · November 2018

drummerboy_73 said:

Dear 10C,
So...another month has passed, and only one month left in the year after this one. Are we going to get this year what we paid for a year and a half ago (or longer for some)??? (Given that it's TRULY the 2017 single we're missing due to the one received earlier this year actually being 2016, but with a "misprint" - or was the one received earlier this year really 2017, since it contained material recorded in 2017, and 2016 simply overlooked?)

We get "newsletters" every month with little to no actual news, but plenty of new products being advertised for us to pre-order or spend even MORE money on, when the club hasn't delivered what's been paid for long ago. The annual single isn't a "gift" or a "nice to have" or a "we'll get it when we get it" - it's an item we paid for and due to us under our membership terms.

PLEASE address this and provide us some information - it's the least you can do...and maybe rethink the thing entirely. It's gotten out of hand. Thank you.

This is exactly how I feel, continually offering new merch etc for sale but not sending out the single we've paid for, unacceptable.

drummerboy_73 · November 2018

on2legs said:

drummerboy_73 said:

Dear 10C,
So...another month has passed, and only one month left in the year after this one. Are we going to get this year what we paid for a year and a half ago (or longer for some)??? (Given that it's TRULY the 2017 single we're missing due to the one received earlier this year actually being 2016, but with a "misprint" - or was the one received earlier this year really 2017, since it contained material recorded in 2017, and 2016 simply overlooked?)

We get "newsletters" every month with little to no actual news, but plenty of new products being advertised for us to pre-order or spend even MORE money on, when the club hasn't delivered what's been paid for long ago. The annual single isn't a "gift" or a "nice to have" or a "we'll get it when we get it" - it's an item we paid for and due to us under our membership terms.

PLEASE address this and provide us some information - it's the least you can do...and maybe rethink the thing entirely. It's gotten out of hand. Thank you.

Thank God you’re on the case! I was afraid they might get away with this caper.

Appreciate the response! I'll be sure to keep you posted on any suspects and clues as they arise!

rockpants · November 2018

I can't remember the last time I was here. Or the last time I got something from 10C/PJ. I just downgraded to digital; now that I'm a student, I can't afford to pay the $50+ CAD. Honestly, I actually can't even afford to stay in the club, but I am anyway. I've been feeling pretty disenfranchised over the last few years. I think PJ became a "legacy" band (if that makes sense) before I was prepared for it. I'm not casting blame at the band. It's just life in different stages (for example, when Eddie was my age, the band were promoting Binaural).

I agree with a lot of the sentiment here re: the 7". I believe the saying is "shit, or get off the pot." We can't trust them to deliver when, with less touring, and seemingly very little on the recording front (no idea tbh) etc., they still can't get this together. They may as well ditch the vinyl altogether, but I don't think they will, because the "PJ Brand" would take a hit. That's basically what Pearl Jam seems like now - more brand than band.

It is what it is.

bigjilm · November 2018

I'd love to see a vinyl boxset collecting all the singles released one year, maybe 30th Anniversary? I'm sure it'd be 4 or 5 LPs at the least, but would be very cool. Not necessarily in place of the annual single, but still only available to 10C members. All the songs are available in some form online already and this obviously wouldn't take place of the original singles, but having them all in one collection would be sweet! Maybe it defeats the purpose of the annual "single", but I bet it'd get more spins at my place than the individual singles do.

JB16057 · November 2018

Another Ten Club newsletter today and no mention of the Annual Single but plenty of opportunities to give more money to the band. I emailed the Ten Club last week asking about information on the Annual Single as we are approaching the end of the year and a year behind. The response was, "Please know that the Band still makes the annual Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine for the fan club. The 2017 Ten Club Single & Deep Magazine will be shipped when they are finished..... We are sorry for the delay"

I replied with asking more real information and about the 2016/2017 mix up. Their reply, "The 2016 had songs from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, so they were dated as 2017, but should have said 2016 since they were for your 2016 Analog Membership. The 2017 Single & Deep will be sent when they are finished. Again, we apologize for the delay."

This is really pathetic Pearl Jam.... I am missing 1 of the annual singles so that is why I continue to sign up for the Analog Membership.

Lost In Ohio · November 2018

But how sad is it that the 2016 single has stuff from 2017? It should have been recorded in 2016 or prior.

It'll be 2019 before we hear from the 2017 single. With all Eddie's solo stuff and PJ soundchecks, it shouldn't be terribly hard.

NewJPage · November 2018

Lost In Ohio said:

But how sad is it that the 2016 single has stuff from 2017? It should have been recorded in 2016 or prior.

It'll be 2019 before we hear from the 2017 single. With all Eddie's solo stuff and PJ soundchecks, it shouldn't be terribly hard.

Barcelona 96 soundcheck on triple 10"

cp3iverson · November 2018

If they decide not to do it id be good with a $20 credit off of Vault 9 next year. I play those more than any PJ albums these days

moozeekfan · November 2018

If it still takes 4-6 months to press up vinyl these days, which I don't think has changed, we should have seen 'Can't Deny Me' and the mysterious B-side for it by now. They should just double-single it like 1994-1995 and catch up at this point.

Foriginal Sin · November 2018

PB11041 said:

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Those bitches tryna steal our costumes

Zod · November 2018

cp3iverson said:

If they decide not to do it id be good with a $20 credit off of Vault 9 next year. I play those more than any PJ albums these days

I'd rather the meet their obligations for the two currently owed, but if they're losing interest, get those two done, and discontinue the xmas singles

HesCalledDyer · November 2018

Replace the annual single with the annual vault vinyl and raise the price of the membership levels. $35 for Digital and they now get a bootleg code, $75 for analog and they get the vault vinyl.

drakeheuer14 · November 2018

HesCalledDyer said:

Replace the annual single with the annual vault vinyl and raise the price of the membership levels. $35 for Digital and they now get a bootleg code, $75 for analog and they get the vault vinyl.

I like it. Let’s do this.

Idea on how to fix the "holiday single" problem.

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