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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,273
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 

    MLB says josh hamilton was worse, but poo holes got twice the money.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Severino, kluber/Carrasco, corbin, Tanaka, cc.

    More than happy with that.
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,233
    Cliffy6745 said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    cutz said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    Probably figure they can get a real good return and would still have a good rotation without at least one of them

    Yanks need to make a serious run at them 
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Really starting to sound like they're not going after the big guys and are only concentrating on the rotation.  Not a fan.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    cutz said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    I think its more proactive and maybe extending their window, along with possibly enticing Lindor and/or Ramirez to extend/stay.

    Kluber will be 33 next season, and has thrown a lot of innings the past 5 seasons.  He may be Cy Young caliber for another couple seasons.  He could also bring in a pretty good return of prospects who can help in the medium-term and carry the team in the future.  Even without Kluber, they have a good rotation with Beiber ready to be a full time starter.  Before he got hurt, Bauer was looking like a Cy Young favorite.  They also have a couple top-end pitching prospects in the system in Tristan McKenzie and Ethan Hankins.  

    Looking 3 years down the road, financially there is no way they can afford all of Bauer, Kluber, and Carrasco.  Make a trade now and maximize the return and keep the organization primed for sustained success.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    I think its more proactive and maybe extending their window, along with possibly enticing Lindor and/or Ramirez to extend/stay.

    Kluber will be 33 next season, and has thrown a lot of innings the past 5 seasons.  He may be Cy Young caliber for another couple seasons.  He could also bring in a pretty good return of prospects who can help in the medium-term and carry the team in the future.  Even without Kluber, they have a good rotation with Beiber ready to be a full time starter.  Before he got hurt, Bauer was looking like a Cy Young favorite.  They also have a couple top-end pitching prospects in the system in Tristan McKenzie and Ethan Hankins.  

    Looking 3 years down the road, financially there is no way they can afford all of Bauer, Kluber, and Carrasco.  Make a trade now and maximize the return and keep the organization primed for sustained success.
    Want Clint Frazier back? haha..I kid.

    Do think the Yanks could obviously match up well with you.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    This is so fucking infuriating

    https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1059587954262372358?s=21
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,233
    Cliffy6745 said:
    This is so fucking infuriating

    https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1059587954262372358?s=21
    Here's  a little more :

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1645942

    Cashman says Yankees need to add multiple pitchers
    4h ago
    Mike Stobe / Getty Images Sport / Getty
    NEW YORK NY - MAY 10 CC Sabathia 52 of the New York Yankees pitches in the first inning against the Boston Red Sox at Yankee Stadium on May 10 2018 in the Bronx borough of New York City

    As expected, the New York Yankees are poised to be busy this offseason.

    General manager Brian Cashman said Monday that the team's number one priority is pitching.

    "We need to reinforce our pitching, so we'll do the best we can with that," Cashman said, according to Bryan Hoch of MLB.com. "That seems to be a yearly effort."

    "I'm interested in adding more than one pitcher," he added. "I need to, I think, add multiple."

    The Yankees saw several pitchers hit the open market after the 2018 campaign. Starters J.A. Happ, Lance Lynn, and CC Sabathia, as well as relievers David Robertson and Zach Britton, are all free agents.

    Sabathia, for one, could find himself back in the Bronx. Cashman said there is mutual interest in bringing him back for an 11th season with the Yankees, according to Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

    The Yankees are also still looking to move right-hander Sonny Gray in a trade. Cashman said "a lot of teams" are showing interest, per Feinsand.

    It's unknown whether bolstering pitching will stop the Yankees from going after Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, but Cashman didn't rule out spending big in the right circumstance.

    "The goal is always to win a championship and to do it in a cost-effective manner," Cashman said, according to Hoch. "As I say cost-effective, we're still a strong, heavy loaded payroll. We got under the tax, but we're still one of the higher payrolls in the game, as you would expect and as it should be."

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    cutz said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    This is so fucking infuriating

    https://twitter.com/bryanhoch/status/1059587954262372358?s=21
    Here's  a little more :

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1645942

    Cashman says Yankees need to add multiple pitchers
    4h ago
    Mike Stobe / Getty Images Sport / Getty
    NEW YORK NY - MAY 10 CC Sabathia 52 of the New York Yankees pitches in the first inning against the Boston Red Sox at Yankee Stadium on May 10 2018 in the Bronx borough of New York City

    As expected, the New York Yankees are poised to be busy this offseason.

    General manager Brian Cashman said Monday that the team's number one priority is pitching.

    "We need to reinforce our pitching, so we'll do the best we can with that," Cashman said, according to Bryan Hoch of MLB.com. "That seems to be a yearly effort."

    "I'm interested in adding more than one pitcher," he added. "I need to, I think, add multiple."

    The Yankees saw several pitchers hit the open market after the 2018 campaign. Starters J.A. Happ, Lance Lynn, and CC Sabathia, as well as relievers David Robertson and Zach Britton, are all free agents.

    Sabathia, for one, could find himself back in the Bronx. Cashman said there is mutual interest in bringing him back for an 11th season with the Yankees, according to Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

    The Yankees are also still looking to move right-hander Sonny Gray in a trade. Cashman said "a lot of teams" are showing interest, per Feinsand.

    It's unknown whether bolstering pitching will stop the Yankees from going after Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, but Cashman didn't rule out spending big in the right circumstance.

    "The goal is always to win a championship and to do it in a cost-effective manner," Cashman said, according to Hoch. "As I say cost-effective, we're still a strong, heavy loaded payroll. We got under the tax, but we're still one of the higher payrolls in the game, as you would expect and as it should be."

    Well yeah, this is a fact. The lineup is going to hit without any upgrades...but I want upgrades dammit
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,852
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    MayDay10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  
    Strictly Angels FA signings.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Eh.  A good team for sure. Better than Boston? No way

    http://riveraveblues.com/2018/11/official-rab-2018-19-offseason-plan-180399/

  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    Hope that extra $30 mill or whatever was worth it, Robbie? 




  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    On a roll today.  Yes, please.  If they can get an ace + Corbin, I would be okay missing out on the big guys.


  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Cliffy6745 said:
    On a roll today.  Yes, please.  If they can get an ace + Corbin, I would be okay missing out on the big guys.


    Hot damn!
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    MayDay10 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Cliffy6745 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzeuvZc1KI8
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,025
    A or B for this team?

    A. Kluber/Carrasco/Paxton and Corbin

    B. Machado and Corbin

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