2020 Tour Rumor Thread

demetrios said:

Play Leash in Atlantic Canada 

Weston1283 said:

The 2018 Europe tour which started in the middle of June was announced December 1st 2017.  Its October 30th, so you have to think anything international in the early months (Jan-April) is out at this point.  North America could still be in play as those have been announced with a shorter interval.

I would also assume anything in Asia would require the 6 month window as that would be a large trip many people would have to plan out in advance.

wbutler29 said:

Weston1283 said:

The 2018 Europe tour which started in the middle of June was announced December 1st 2017.  Its October 30th, so you have to think anything international in the early months (Jan-April) is out at this point.  North America could still be in play as those have been announced with a shorter interval.

I would also assume anything in Asia would require the 6 month window as that would be a large trip many people would have to plan out in advance.

No offense to our international brothers and sisters, but Europe, South/Latin America and Canada, with a sprinkle of Aussie festivals are the only places it appears PJ will be playing outside the U.S. and those stops are getting further and further apart.  refer to Greg354's post on last shows played. 

South America is like their #2 destination these days.   2005, 2011, 2013, 2015, 2018.   They have gone to South America FIVE TIMES since the last time Houston or Atlanta received their own show (ATL had a festival).

They go to South America for the same reason metallica did 5 European tours without doing a full US tour.  Pearl Jam can play massive venues and to massive crowds at all of their shows there which means massive pay days with fewer shows.  I know many of their fans still don't want to admit it, but touring is a business.  The objective of any business is to maximize your profits.  When you consider what they make in a weekend of playing Fenway Park or Wrigley Field between ticket sales and merch sales, they would need to play a dozen arena shows in lesser markets to come close.  They are older, have children and families.  Just doesn't make sense for them to do 40 show tours.  They will still do tours in the lesser markets but there will be fewer and fewer of them.  I won't be surprised if in 5 years, we only see them doing 7-10 shows per tour split between multi night stands in 4-5 biggest markets.  I can't say that I would blame them.  They have been doing this for 30+ years.  I am sure they just want to enjoy their lives and their hard work and spend time with their families.  

bootlegger10 said:

wbutler29 said:

Weston1283 said:

The 2018 Europe tour which started in the middle of June was announced December 1st 2017.  Its October 30th, so you have to think anything international in the early months (Jan-April) is out at this point.  North America could still be in play as those have been announced with a shorter interval.

I would also assume anything in Asia would require the 6 month window as that would be a large trip many people would have to plan out in advance.

No offense to our international brothers and sisters, but Europe, South/Latin America and Canada, with a sprinkle of Aussie festivals are the only places it appears PJ will be playing outside the U.S. and those stops are getting further and further apart.  refer to Greg354's post on last shows played. 

South America is like their #2 destination these days.   2005, 2011, 2013, 2015, 2018.   They have gone to South America FIVE TIMES since the last time Houston or Atlanta received their own show (ATL had a festival).

Lerxst1992 said:

Vedd Hedd said:

Again...if they play a normal size tour with more dates, the "demand" for Chicago, NY, etc would be less.   Keep in mind, some people can only afford 1 or 2 shows.  So, this year, they had to choose Wrigley, Seattle, Boston, or Missoula.   And Missoula being out of the way, and only 1 show...most people had to choose Seattle, Wrigley, or Boston. 

If they played Portland, the demand for Seattle would drop slightly.  If they played Milwaukee, Detroit, or Indianapolis, the demand for Chicago would drop.   Throwing those other cities in there helps keep the demand from being too crazy.  Therefore you dont have to set up a 9 night residency anywhere.  But yeah, you could do that in NYC....because not only would the population there cover it, people would also try to fly there just to see them for that.   Sorry, NYC, you get lots of visitors in addition to your huge population. 
 
Leg 1
Toronto
Montreal
Buffalo
NYC
NYC
Boston
Boston
Philly
Pittsburgh
Columbus
DC
Atlanta
Miami
Tampa

Leg 2

Chicago 
Chicago
East Troy
St Louis
New Orleans
Dallas
Houston
Denver
Phoenix
San Diego
Los Angeles
San Fransisco
Portland
Vancouver
Seattle
Seattle



But this will never happen. 

Having residencies does many things. It lowers the bands wear and tear being in constant motion. It drastically cuts down backline work. It allows family increased opportunity to join the band. It maximizes performance time over travel.

Im observing their touring trends lately and it seems they tour less than average, less than other bands do, even fellow mega stars like the Stones or Bruce did when they were in their 50s. I get it, every night away from my family is not fun. So viola, summer residency and family.

Then i look at the stadium shows the last few years. Huge time and cost commitment to build a stage, a night for sound check and always a day off between the shows. All that effort for 95% of the fans to have a terrible view of the stage and very few shows for all that travel and effort. No side stage seats, no seats in the wings, no backstage seats. No second level seats that are actually decent. If you're  not in the first 25 rows in a stadium, the view is terrible.

mrk2 said:

bootlegger10 said:

wbutler29 said:

Weston1283 said:

The 2018 Europe tour which started in the middle of June was announced December 1st 2017.  Its October 30th, so you have to think anything international in the early months (Jan-April) is out at this point.  North America could still be in play as those have been announced with a shorter interval.

I would also assume anything in Asia would require the 6 month window as that would be a large trip many people would have to plan out in advance.

No offense to our international brothers and sisters, but Europe, South/Latin America and Canada, with a sprinkle of Aussie festivals are the only places it appears PJ will be playing outside the U.S. and those stops are getting further and further apart.  refer to Greg354's post on last shows played. 

South America is like their #2 destination these days.   2005, 2011, 2013, 2015, 2018.   They have gone to South America FIVE TIMES since the last time Houston or Atlanta received their own show (ATL had a festival).

North America has had shows nearly every year