Which Political Party Is Violent?

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  • unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    What was Oklahoma City? The perps of Waco and Ruby could have gone to court. Had their day so to speak. Kinda like the Bundy’s, who must be your heroes?

    Worldwide? Perhaps you’d like to start with the crusades? You know those loving Catholics from Rome?

    Conspiracy much, “was she even hit by the car?” Alternet binge?

    My lunatic obsession? You’re the one who posted that that is what you fear. It brought me clarity and helped me connect the dots of your posts. I get it Unsung, it’s okay, this is America. You’re safe in your fears.
    You need to do a little research on how court did happen in the Bundy case and RR and how the government was either guilty or suppressed evidence.

    The crusades were defensive. 

    I haven't seen a single report that she was struck by a car, I have seen reports of a heart attack because she was grossly overweight.

    OkC was retaliatory.  No, I don't condone that.  



    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
    It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.

    You don't know shit.
    Maybe he doesn't, but then his guesses are crazy good.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    Wrong, fascism and totalitarian dictatorships have killed millions and millions, not communism or socialism.
    Old comment I know. But Stalin killed like 50 million. Who’s killed more than that?
    I think he takes the gold, and he was a communist.
    Like I said, fascism and totalitarianism. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and that is why he killed millions and millions. I'm not sure if unsung was being serious or sarcastic, but he was right. That wasn't real Communism.
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  • unsung
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    Right.

    Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    Right.

    Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?
    Nowhere outside of some hippie communes. Humans are too greedy for Communism to work (so far).
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,474
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    Wrong, fascism and totalitarian dictatorships have killed millions and millions, not communism or socialism.
    Old comment I know. But Stalin killed like 50 million. Who’s killed more than that?
    I think he takes the gold, and he was a communist.
    Like I said, fascism and totalitarianism. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and that is why he killed millions and millions. I'm not sure if unsung was being serious or sarcastic, but he was right. That wasn't real Communism.
    One of Stalins favorite labels was "enemy of the people"
    Sound familiar?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,715
    edited October 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    mace1229 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    Wrong, fascism and totalitarian dictatorships have killed millions and millions, not communism or socialism.
    Old comment I know. But Stalin killed like 50 million. Who’s killed more than that?
    I think he takes the gold, and he was a communist.
    Like I said, fascism and totalitarianism. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and that is why he killed millions and millions. I'm not sure if unsung was being serious or sarcastic, but he was right. That wasn't real Communism.
    One of Stalins favorite labels was "enemy of the people"
    Sound familiar?
    It sure does! The very first lesson in Fascism and Totalitarian Dictatorships 101 is all about discrediting the free press and making them the enemy.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    What was Oklahoma City? The perps of Waco and Ruby could have gone to court. Had their day so to speak. Kinda like the Bundy’s, who must be your heroes?

    Worldwide? Perhaps you’d like to start with the crusades? You know those loving Catholics from Rome?

    Conspiracy much, “was she even hit by the car?” Alternet binge?

    My lunatic obsession? You’re the one who posted that that is what you fear. It brought me clarity and helped me connect the dots of your posts. I get it Unsung, it’s okay, this is America. You’re safe in your fears.
    You need to do a little research on how court did happen in the Bundy case and RR and how the government was either guilty or suppressed evidence.

    The crusades were defensive. 

    I haven't seen a single report that she was struck by a car, I have seen reports of a heart attack because she was grossly overweight.

    OkC was retaliatory.  No, I don't condone that.  



    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
    It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.

    You don't know shit.
    :dizzy:  I'm sowwy George.  I'll go tend da wabbits now, George.

  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    unsung said:
    njnancy said:
    unsung said:
    unsung said:
    Waco was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    Ruby Ridge was murder by the Clinton Administration. 

    But you want to go worldwide.

    Communism and Socialism has killed more people than all other political systems combined.

    The political events and riots over the last year or so in the US were largely ommitted by leftist Communist goons, assault for wearing hats, physically attacking women, Charlottesville, Berkley, Baltimore, Ferguson, Milwaukee, etc.

    Was that woman actually hit by the car?

    You also couldn't contain your lunatic obsession with another "fearing elimination of the white race" post so you just list a bunch of examples where white people are killed in the US.  


    What was Oklahoma City? The perps of Waco and Ruby could have gone to court. Had their day so to speak. Kinda like the Bundy’s, who must be your heroes?

    Worldwide? Perhaps you’d like to start with the crusades? You know those loving Catholics from Rome?

    Conspiracy much, “was she even hit by the car?” Alternet binge?

    My lunatic obsession? You’re the one who posted that that is what you fear. It brought me clarity and helped me connect the dots of your posts. I get it Unsung, it’s okay, this is America. You’re safe in your fears.
    You need to do a little research on how court did happen in the Bundy case and RR and how the government was either guilty or suppressed evidence.

    The crusades were defensive. 

    I haven't seen a single report that she was struck by a car, I have seen reports of a heart attack because she was grossly overweight.

    OkC was retaliatory.  No, I don't condone that.  



    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
    It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.

    You don't know shit.
    :dizzy:  I'm sowwy George.  I'll go tend da wabbits now, George.

    You ain't done anything wrong. Go tend those rabbits. ;)
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited October 2018
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
  • brianlux
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    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
    Good research work there, Nancy.  This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

    "The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    brianlux said:
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
    Good research work there, Nancy.  This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

    "The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."



    $3 million should be like peanuts to a political fundraiser. Maybe cashews.

    Perhaps their worried of alienating their base.
  • brianlux said:
    njnancy said:
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
    Good research work there, Nancy.  This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

    "The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."



    $3 million should be like peanuts to a political fundraiser. Maybe cashews.

    Perhaps their worried of alienating their base.
    I believe they spent close to $30 million in 2016, helping to elect Team trump Treason. Question is, where did they get the money and from whom did they get it? putin on the ritz? Team Mueller will let us know.

    In North Carolina, the NRA spent $6.2 million on the incumbent Republican Sen. Richard Burr, the most it has ever invested in a down-ballot race. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

    The National Rifle Association took a historic gamble in 2016, and it paid off in a huge way.

    The gun rights group placed multimillion-dollar bets on Donald Trump and six Republican Senate candidates locked in highly competitive races. It poured $50.2 million, or 96 percent of its total outside spending, into these races, and lost only one — an open seat in Nevada, vacated by the Democratic Minority Leader, Harry Reid. That race cost the NRA roughly $2.5 million.


    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2016/11/the-nra-placed-big-bets-on-the-2016-election-and-won-almost-all-of-them/
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    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    Right.

    Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?
    Why are you talking about utopic ism:s as something working in the real world, or something that even has been applied to the real world?

    Where has full-blown capitalism ever worked?

    What has worked best - the social democractic ideals of the nordic countries or US predatory capitalistic ideals? Well, every metric other than war crimes, poverty, mocking sexual assualt victims and defense spending points to the nordic countries.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has.  Is it perfect, no.  Can it be better? Of course.  I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house.  Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home.  I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has.  Is it perfect, no.  Can it be better? Of course.  I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house.  Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home.  I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

    Given how healthcare and college costs work in the US, our countries could not be more dissimilar unfortunately

    Healthcare and college can bankrupt any middle income family at any time in the US
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited October 2018
    I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has.  Is it perfect, no.  Can it be better? Of course.  I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house.  Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home.  I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...
    You don't think other countries  would have a cozy spot for you to drink your coffee at? Maybe with some heating that is renewable?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has.  Is it perfect, no.  Can it be better? Of course.  I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house.  Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home.  I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

    But your housing prices aren't indicative of Canada's economic system per se, they're only indicative of the community you live in. There are areas of the country where the working wealthy can't afford to buy a home, and it's our economic system that has made that so. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    “Biblical Basis for War”: Washington politician’s manifesto suggests supporters of abortion and gay marriage be killed


    The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

    “If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

    Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/pa97wy/biblical-basis-for-war-washington-politicians-manifesto-suggests-supporters-of-abortion-and-gay-marriage-be-killed

    What party does this guy belong to?