Which Political Party Is Violent?

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Pretty clear answer.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,478
    unsung said:
    Pretty clear answer.
    Care to explain this further, maybe with a meme?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    If that's what it takes for you to understand.
  • unsung said:
    If that's what it takes for you to understand.
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    30:1
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  • unsung said:
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    Are you fearing the Muslim Mafia now as well?
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,697
    PJ_Soul said:
    Wrong, fascism and totalitarian dictatorships have killed millions and millions, not communism or socialism.
    Old comment I know. But Stalin killed like 50 million. Who’s killed more than that?
    I think he takes the gold, and he was a communist.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    But that wasn’t REAL communism...
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    You need to do a little research on how court did happen in the Bundy case and RR and how the government was either guilty or suppressed evidence.

    The crusades were defensive. 

    I haven't seen a single report that she was struck by a car, I have seen reports of a heart attack because she was grossly overweight.

    OkC was retaliatory.  No, I don't condone that.  



    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,026
    So three people out of 325 million is supposed to mean something. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    njnancy said:

    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
    Disgraceful. 
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  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    Disgraceful. 
    Thank you. 

    The fact that she was violently killed while attending a rally and peacefully protesting is horrible enough. The crap that has been pushed out about her is disgusting. The neo-nazi's even stoop so low as to say she deserved to die because she was unmarried without children. That is her only reason to exist, to produce white babies and since she hadn't she was disposable and a fat pig, etc. Makes me sick that people truly believe this way of thinking and are becoming accepted in society because of a morally compromised 'President'. 

    Some things I can debate - and some things are just outright wrong. 
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,476
    njnancy said:

    This crap about Heather Heyer was pushed by the neo-nazi's, StormTrooper, White Supremacists. Is that where you are getting your information these days?  Was she hit by a car? Seriously. She died suddenly during a violent car attack because she was 'grossly overweight', right. I find that to be so offensive and cannot believe that someone on these messageboards would actually peddle this crap.

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

    https://www.newsweek.com/sexist-alt-right-conspiracies-surrounding-heather-heyers-death-keep-swirling-687195

    But you won't read either. You have drunk the Kool Aid - it is obvious in your complete dive into conspiracy posts. 
    It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.
  • It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.
    Like Team Trump Treason? You don’t say?
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,476
    Like Team Trump Treason? You don’t say?
    The similarities are striking, no?
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,244
    edited October 2018
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,396
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    I realize an element of /s but 2 interesting quotes,



    "more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican"

    Hopefully we can agree that we should back out the major world war years of Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Obviously they were joining a world wide conflict and the danger to America could have been greater had they not intervened

    Perhaps a better measure would be conflicts engaged by the U.S. upon smaller nations during its superpower tenure?



    "40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent."

    This is a great stat and trap the dems, especially Hilary fall into. The Democratic registration advantage is a true false flag and usually is to blame when dems rely on it then lose.

    Two examples. 1 libertarians: they refuse to associate with a political party but almost never vote for a Democrat in a federal election.

    2. Registered dems in deep red southern states: check out voter registrations in one of the reddest states, WV. More democrats. The registration is from historical leanings but in recent decades  almost never vote for dems in federal elections.

  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    It’s unsung. He doesn’t give a single flying fuck about anyone on earth but himself.

    You don't know shit.
  • unsung said:

    You don't know shit.
    Maybe he doesn't, but then his guesses are crazy good.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,404
    mace1229 said:
    Old comment I know. But Stalin killed like 50 million. Who’s killed more than that?
    I think he takes the gold, and he was a communist.
    Like I said, fascism and totalitarianism. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and that is why he killed millions and millions. I'm not sure if unsung was being serious or sarcastic, but he was right. That wasn't real Communism.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Right.

    Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,404
    edited October 2018
    unsung said:
    Right.

    Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?
    Nowhere outside of some hippie communes. Humans are too greedy for Communism to work (so far).
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,217
    PJ_Soul said:
    Like I said, fascism and totalitarianism. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator and that is why he killed millions and millions. I'm not sure if unsung was being serious or sarcastic, but he was right. That wasn't real Communism.
    One of Stalins favorite labels was "enemy of the people"
    Sound familiar?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,404
    edited October 2018
    One of Stalins favorite labels was "enemy of the people"
    Sound familiar?
    It sure does! The very first lesson in Fascism and Totalitarian Dictatorships 101 is all about discrediting the free press and making them the enemy.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,476
    unsung said:

    You don't know shit.
    :dizzy:  I'm sowwy George.  I'll go tend da wabbits now, George.

  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    :dizzy:  I'm sowwy George.  I'll go tend da wabbits now, George.

    You ain't done anything wrong. Go tend those rabbits. ;)
  • njnancynjnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited October 2018
    brianlux said:
    The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent.  they can't even spell "Piece" right.

    Green Party is a contender too.  Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

    As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times. 

    But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

    But what does all this really mean?  I have to say, it says very little, if anything.  Why?  Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths.  Just look at this chart from NPR:


    I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another.  But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws.  That might say something. 




    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,244
    njnancy said:
    Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year. 

    https://www.bustle.com/p/24-gun-control-laws-that-have-failed-since-sandy-hook-7589491


    And then there is this article on 100 gun control proposals since 2011 and why they have failed... 

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-gun-control-proposals-have-been-offered-since-2011/

    And finally there is a list of how all members of Congress have voted on gun control bills and the loosening of gun control bills...

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/19/566731477/chart-how-have-your-members-of-congress-voted-on-gun-bills


    Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything. 

    But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....
    Good research work there, Nancy.  This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

    "The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."

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