The Proud Boys, The New Republicans?

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    There’s a lot of that going around.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,615
    unsung said:
    There’s a lot of that going around.
    The both sides rebuttal doesn’t hold up. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,450
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    I am proud of the life I made for myself without resorting to destruction because my chosen candidate lost.

    About the most hysterical thing he has said.  “You didn’t build that”.  Right up there with clinging to gunsand religion.
    I think the idea he had was good but poorly worded.  I took it to mean:

    "Yes, it's absolutely  true that to build a successful business you have to have smart ideas and be willing and able to work hard.  But in most businesses you need a team, a good team, and the help of others.  And even if you work in a one-person operated small business, unless you build it entirely from scratch by yourself, others are involved.  And at the very least, you need customers.  Unless you're a hermit living off the land, no one does it alone."

    At least that's how the several businesses I worked in, as well as  a few of my own, have worked. 

    I'd have coached Obama differently on that part of the speech.


    we knew what he meant...the chud used it against him

    Funny how some people still bring this up yet they ignore the absolute hatred that our current president spews.  It's hard to go a day without him saying something stupid and unpresidential.
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  • unsung
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    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    There’s a lot of that going around.
    The both sides rebuttal doesn’t hold up. 
    Yes, one side is innocent and the other is guilty.  Just depends on who you ask.
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    I'm just waiting for them to announce their Proud Boy Pride Parade - that should certainly lead to some strange assumptions.  ;)
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,615
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    There’s a lot of that going around.
    The both sides rebuttal doesn’t hold up. 
    Yes, one side is innocent and the other is guilty.  Just depends on who you ask.
    It’s not a “sides” issue.  White supremacists don’t inhabit a side. That would be giving it validation. 
  • brianlux
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    Gern Blansten said:
    brianlux said:
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    I am proud of the life I made for myself without resorting to destruction because my chosen candidate lost.

    About the most hysterical thing he has said.  “You didn’t build that”.  Right up there with clinging to gunsand religion.
    I think the idea he had was good but poorly worded.  I took it to mean:

    "Yes, it's absolutely  true that to build a successful business you have to have smart ideas and be willing and able to work hard.  But in most businesses you need a team, a good team, and the help of others.  And even if you work in a one-person operated small business, unless you build it entirely from scratch by yourself, others are involved.  And at the very least, you need customers.  Unless you're a hermit living off the land, no one does it alone."

    At least that's how the several businesses I worked in, as well as  a few of my own, have worked. 

    I'd have coached Obama differently on that part of the speech.


    we knew what he meant...the chud used it against him

    Funny how some people still bring this up yet they ignore the absolute hatred that our current president spews.  It's hard to go a day without him saying something stupid and unpresidential.
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    edited October 2018
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    There’s a lot of that going around.
    The both sides rebuttal doesn’t hold up. 
    Yes, one side is innocent and the other is guilty.  Just depends on who you ask.
    It’s not a “sides” issue.  White supremacists don’t inhabit a side. That would be giving it validation. 
    This flies in the face of the belief many (here as well as everywhere else, these days) hold.  They believe that any stance deserves respect and recognition.

    I agree with your statement, of course, as someone who is not a racist and who tries to be a good human being.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,876
    How many members does this group say they have? I couldn’t find the answer in an internet search and I’m not clicking on their website 
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  • qontheboard
    qontheboard Posts: 787
    The Juggler said:

    Oh Shit? Do they all wear Fred Perry? What a bunch of assholes. Don't they know Fred Perry is for Mods and Rude Boys. They better not start wearing Ben Sherman and Lonsdale!

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,619
    cincybearcat said:
    How many members does this group say they have? I couldn’t find the answer in an internet search and I’m not clicking on their website 
    The Proud Boys took off after the presidential election. Each of their official Facebook and Twitter pages had over 20,000 followers at the end of 2017. The website Rewire estimates there are roughly 6,000 members. Group meetings, according to McInnes, “usually consist of drinking, fighting, and reading aloud from Pat Buchanan’s Death of the West.”

    There are three degrees of membership within the Proud Boys, and to become a first degree in the “pro-West fraternal organization” a prospective member simply has to declare “I am a western chauvinist, and I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” To enter the second degree, a Proud Boy has to endure a beating until they can yell out the names of five breakfast cereals (in order to demonstrate “adrenaline control”) and give up masturbation because, in theory, it will leave them more inclined to go out and meet women. Those who enter the third degree have demonstrated their commitment by getting a Proud Boys tattoo. Any man — no matter his race or sexual-orientation — can join the fraternal organization as long as they “recognize that white men are not the problem.” Women have their own contingent called the Proud Boys’ Girls.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    How many members does this group say they have? I couldn’t find the answer in an internet search and I’m not clicking on their website 
    The Proud Boys took off after the presidential election. Each of their official Facebook and Twitter pages had over 20,000 followers at the end of 2017. The website Rewire estimates there are roughly 6,000 members. Group meetings, according to McInnes, “usually consist of drinking, fighting, and reading aloud from Pat Buchanan’s Death of the West.”

    There are three degrees of membership within the Proud Boys, and to become a first degree in the “pro-West fraternal organization” a prospective member simply has to declare “I am a western chauvinist, and I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world.” To enter the second degree, a Proud Boy has to endure a beating until they can yell out the names of five breakfast cereals (in order to demonstrate “adrenaline control”) and give up masturbation because, in theory, it will leave them more inclined to go out and meet women. Those who enter the third degree have demonstrated their commitment by getting a Proud Boys tattoo. Any man — no matter his race or sexual-orientation — can join the fraternal organization as long as they “recognize that white men are not the problem.” Women have their own contingent called the Proud Boys’ Girls.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/proud-boys

    What a bunch of winners.
    Thanks. 
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  • Bentleyspop
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    qontheboard said:
    The Juggler said:

    Oh Shit? Do they all wear Fred Perry? What a bunch of assholes. Don't they know Fred Perry is for Mods and Rude Boys. They better not start wearing Ben Sherman and Lonsdale!


  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,634
    What's going on in that photo and is the Billy Idol on the left?
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  • qontheboard
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    OnWis97 said:
    What's going on in that photo and is the Billy Idol on the left?

     It's a bunch of Mods getting ready to rumble with a bunch of Fascist wankers... actually it's a bunch of Mods getting ready to take on a bunch of Rockers. That is Sting on the left.
  • Bentleyspop
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    qontheboard said:
    OnWis97 said:
    What's going on in that photo and is the Billy Idol on the left?

     It's a bunch of Mods getting ready to rumble with a bunch of Fascist wankers... actually it's a bunch of Mods getting ready to take on a bunch of Rockers. That is Sting on the left.


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,756
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    I am proud of the life I made for myself without resorting to destruction because my chosen candidate lost.

    About the most hysterical thing he has said.  “You didn’t build that”.  Right up there with clinging to gunsand religion.



    Is he trying to be funny or no?  I can never tell with these comedians that suddenly turn serious.

    What difference does it make? That doesn't change the point he's making.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Jason P said:
    I'm grading them a D- on their gang name.  Should have went with The Van Buren Boys
    totally should have. flashing the W sign was never easier than when holding a salt shaker. 
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