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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited October 2018
    brianlux said:
    OK, somebody clue me in, please.  What do Native Americans and taking a knee have to do with each other.  Wounded Knee?  I'm lost here.
    Lol @ Wounded Knee!  Nothing, they have nothing to do with each other...similar to Warren ;)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,810
    edited October 2018
    Then why are people talking about Elizabeth Warren and Native Americans here?

    I NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    brianlux said:
    Then why are people talking about Elizabeth Warren and Native Americans here?

    I NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!  :lol:
    I think it all stemmed from a silly meme above mocking the Nike/Kapernick add.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    Hate to break it, the point was not proved. 

    "We will take that little [DNA] kit, but we have to do it gently. Because we’re in the #MeToo generation so we have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t injure her arm even though it only weighs probably two ounces. And we will say: I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian."

    tRUmp
    5 July 2018

    She took a DNA test, which showed she is Native American.  Point  proven.  Anything beyond that is moving goalposts.
    Evidently actual Native Americans do not like where your goalpost is...
    Weird, I don't remember Native Americans issuing a challenge or setting the terms.

    Weird, I don't seem to recall Warren applying for tribal status, or offering to meet their standards.  

    tRUmp drew the line in the sand, not the Native American community.  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,968
    PJPOWER said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    Hate to break it, the point was not proved. 

    "We will take that little [DNA] kit, but we have to do it gently. Because we’re in the #MeToo generation so we have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t injure her arm even though it only weighs probably two ounces. And we will say: I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian."

    tRUmp
    5 July 2018

    She took a DNA test, which showed she is Native American.  Point  proven.  Anything beyond that is moving goalposts.
    Evidently actual Native Americans do not like where your goalpost is...
    Do they like being taunted / called 'Pocahontas'?

    Did someone call an actual Native America “Pocahontas”?  No...they are probably coming up with their own names for Warren now, though :)

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    F Me In The Brain said:
    PJPOWER said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    Hate to break it, the point was not proved. 

    "We will take that little [DNA] kit, but we have to do it gently. Because we’re in the #MeToo generation so we have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t injure her arm even though it only weighs probably two ounces. And we will say: I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian."

    tRUmp
    5 July 2018

    She took a DNA test, which showed she is Native American.  Point  proven.  Anything beyond that is moving goalposts.
    Evidently actual Native Americans do not like where your goalpost is...
    Do they like being taunted / called 'Pocahontas'?

    Did someone call an actual Native America “Pocahontas”?  No...they are probably coming up with their own names for Warren now, though :)

    Yeah, because it's ok to use derogatory terms reserved for racial/cultural slander as long as the recipient does not have 100% origin from that racial/cultural descent. That seems like a good standard. Moral standards, got to have some you know.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Seems odd that people have forgotten about the “one drop rule” - you know, the one that said that if anyone had “one drop” of African blood they were considered black, and thus not eligible for the privileges of being white? Only ever given any credence in the US, and particularly in the South. 

    Seems the right can play whichever side it wants, when it’s convenient for them. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    OK, somebody clue me in, please.  What do Native Americans and taking a knee have to do with each other.  Wounded Knee?  I'm lost here.

    Are you saying a thread on the AMT went off topic?  That never happens here.  You need to pay attention.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,968
    tbergs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    PJPOWER said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    PJPOWER said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    Hate to break it, the point was not proved. 

    "We will take that little [DNA] kit, but we have to do it gently. Because we’re in the #MeToo generation so we have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesn’t injure her arm even though it only weighs probably two ounces. And we will say: I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian."

    tRUmp
    5 July 2018

    She took a DNA test, which showed she is Native American.  Point  proven.  Anything beyond that is moving goalposts.
    Evidently actual Native Americans do not like where your goalpost is...
    Do they like being taunted / called 'Pocahontas'?

    Did someone call an actual Native America “Pocahontas”?  No...they are probably coming up with their own names for Warren now, though :)

    Yeah, because it's ok to use derogatory terms reserved for racial/cultural slander as long as the recipient does not have 100% origin from that racial/cultural descent. That seems like a good standard. Moral standards, got to have some you know.
    A very 'Presidential' standard, no less.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,810
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    OK, somebody clue me in, please.  What do Native Americans and taking a knee have to do with each other.  Wounded Knee?  I'm lost here.

    Are you saying a thread on the AMT went off topic?  That never happens here.  You need to pay attention.
    I must have been hallucinating!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,810
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    Maybe to you, and certainly in the grand scheme of things, but that's why Warren was stupid.  It was a trap and it was a non-issue until she stooped to her level.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    Sorry... HIS LEVEL...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,974
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    Maybe to you, and certainly in the grand scheme of things, but that's why Warren was stupid.  It was a trap and it was a non-issue until she stooped to her level.  
    Yes, that was what she did, unfortunately.... But surely only the most biased people would let this stupid little issue, this misstep, especially considering the level of frustration that Trump creates, be a deal breaker. If this is all it takes, then minds have been lost.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,810
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    Maybe to you, and certainly in the grand scheme of things, but that's why Warren was stupid.  It was a trap and it was a non-issue until she stooped to her level.  
    The election is two years off.  The American Amnesia does not run that long.  In fact, I believe it will be forgotten about in 5...4...3...2...
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    Maybe to you, and certainly in the grand scheme of things, but that's why Warren was stupid.  It was a trap and it was a non-issue until she stooped to her level.  
    Yes, that was what she did, unfortunately.... But surely only the most biased people would let this stupid little issue, this misstep, especially considering the level of frustration that Trump creates, be a deal breaker. If this is all it takes, then minds have been lost.
    Agreed.  I know Warren isn't running (yet), but anyone who hasn't formed a concrete opinion on Trump at this point, just isn't paying the slightest attention.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    Warren cleared the table now, so it won't be an issue later.  This whole matter will be a distant memory by the time Warren runs in 2020.  tRUmp and his supporters will have to find some other derogatory way to attack Warren now.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,008
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    Warren cleared the table now, so it won't be an issue later.  This whole matter will be a distant memory by the time Warren runs in 2020.  tRUmp and his supporters will have to find some other derogatory way to attack Warren now.
    Fair.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,974
    mrussel1 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Warren took the bait and that was foolish.  But at the end of the day, Trump also moved the goal posts, no surprise because he is a liar and notoriously cheap with his own money (not ours).  
    If I were NA, I'd be annoyed with both of them.  Trump for using the derogatory term over and over and Warren for being a fool.  

    What's preferable, a racist or a fool?  You decide.  
    It's a non-fucking-issue.
    Maybe to you, and certainly in the grand scheme of things, but that's why Warren was stupid.  It was a trap and it was a non-issue until she stooped to her level.  
    Yes, that was what she did, unfortunately.... But surely only the most biased people would let this stupid little issue, this misstep, especially considering the level of frustration that Trump creates, be a deal breaker. If this is all it takes, then minds have been lost.
    Agreed.  I know Warren isn't running (yet), but anyone who hasn't formed a concrete opinion on Trump at this point, just isn't paying the slightest attention.
    I more meant that how frustrating Trump is to Warren herself was a factor in her stooping. Christ, a reasonable woman can only take so much!
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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