Unpopular Opinions

huntersthompson said:

-Despite repeated attempts to like them and considering EdVed loves them---I do not like the Who....

Yikes. I don't even know how that's possible since they are the grandfathers of the PJ/Seattle Youth Angst thing and quite frankly do it 10 x's better.   I would suggest putting Quadrophenia on start to back and be transformed.  You can't like Leash without appreciating Punk Meets the Godfather

huntersthompson said:

EdsonNascimento said:

huntersthompson said:

-Despite repeated attempts to like them and considering EdVed loves them---I do not like the Who....

Yikes. I don't even know how that's possible since they are the grandfathers of the PJ/Seattle Youth Angst thing and quite frankly do it 10 x's better.   I would suggest putting Quadrophenia on start to back and be transformed.  You can't like Leash without appreciating Punk Meets the Godfather

I can appreciate the band and their position in the context of rock history....oddly, I cannot any longer get through listening to a complete album (and I do have all of them)...A handful of their songs are great--I'm looking at you "Won't Get Fooled Again"--but for the most part they do nothing to my soul.  I have read Townsend's autobiography and know that they were "there" when rock was taking off...but they seemed to always be on the back of the wave as opposed to riding it....or causing it for that matter.  

Let's be honest...my avatar is my 1964 Vespa (the same year that the Who formed)...I should love Quadrophenia...but it just okay in my estimation and have a hard time sitting down to listen to it start to finish.  Could be the ADD....could be a short attention span. Draw and quarter me if you must....

Frankly, this is coming from a guy who, much to the chagrin of Zepplin fans/friends of mine, thought In Through the Out Door was my favorite album....so, my opinion is potentially fatally flawed....

At least we can agree on our love for Pearl Jam...  

ps:  To disprove your theory (in the most respectful way possible) I love Leash and still don't love the Who....

Ha, ha. Nice.  The only thing I think you got wrong is that they didn't break new ground. John Entwistle was the original lead bassist.    Pete Townsend is one of the best guitarists and songwriters of all time.    Keith Moon was one of the great drummers and Roger one of the great front men. Not only didn't have a single weakness, but had a top 10 at each of their "positions."  Can't think of another band that's true of (John Paul Jones?  Billy Wyman or Charlie Watts?  Ringo Starr?). 

 And they were the original best and loudest live band.
Remember - The Stones never released THEIR Rock N' Roll Circus until much later because everyone thought The Who out shined them (which if you've since seen it is so clearly true that at least they were self aware enough if not humble enough).

Not to mention the invention of the successful full Rock Opera.

They sat second to none (well, maybe The Beatles, who love or hate them, sit before everyone).

Of course, my opinion is slanted as they are my all time favorite band. So, take all that for what it's worth.

And Leash (etc.) and the rest of the Seattle scene does not exist without The Who. Yes, there are clearly other influences, but that's the core of it.  But, that doesn't mean you have to like it.  Just makes it strange.

EdsonNascimento said:

huntersthompson said:

EdsonNascimento said:

huntersthompson said:

-Despite repeated attempts to like them and considering EdVed loves them---I do not like the Who....

Yikes. I don't even know how that's possible since they are the grandfathers of the PJ/Seattle Youth Angst thing and quite frankly do it 10 x's better.   I would suggest putting Quadrophenia on start to back and be transformed.  You can't like Leash without appreciating Punk Meets the Godfather

I can appreciate the band and their position in the context of rock history....oddly, I cannot any longer get through listening to a complete album (and I do have all of them)...A handful of their songs are great--I'm looking at you "Won't Get Fooled Again"--but for the most part they do nothing to my soul.  I have read Townsend's autobiography and know that they were "there" when rock was taking off...but they seemed to always be on the back of the wave as opposed to riding it....or causing it for that matter.  

Let's be honest...my avatar is my 1964 Vespa (the same year that the Who formed)...I should love Quadrophenia...but it just okay in my estimation and have a hard time sitting down to listen to it start to finish.  Could be the ADD....could be a short attention span. Draw and quarter me if you must....

Frankly, this is coming from a guy who, much to the chagrin of Zepplin fans/friends of mine, thought In Through the Out Door was my favorite album....so, my opinion is potentially fatally flawed....

At least we can agree on our love for Pearl Jam...  

ps:  To disprove your theory (in the most respectful way possible) I love Leash and still don't love the Who....

Ha, ha. Nice.  The only thing I think you got wrong is that they didn't break new ground. John Entwistle was the original lead bassist.    Pete Townsend is one of the best guitarists and songwriters of all time.    Keith Moon was one of the great drummers and Roger one of the great front men. Not only didn't have a single weakness, but had a top 10 at each of their "positions."  Can't think of another band that's true of (John Paul Jones?  Billy Wyman or Charlie Watts?  Ringo Starr?). 

 And they were the original best and loudest live band.
Remember - The Stones never released THEIR Rock N' Roll Circus until much later because everyone thought The Who out shined them (which if you've since seen it is so clearly true that at least they were self aware enough if not humble enough).

Not to mention the invention of the successful full Rock Opera.

They sat second to none (well, maybe The Beatles, who love or hate them, sit before everyone).

Of course, my opinion is slanted as they are my all time favorite band. So, take all that for what it's worth.

And Leash (etc.) and the rest of the Seattle scene does not exist without The Who. Yes, there are clearly other influences, but that's the core of it.  But, that doesn't mean you have to like it.  Just makes it strange.

All true. I will add one thing that I do agree with an earlier post. There aren't many Who albums I can listen to straight through though. Who's Next is probably the only one. There's too much banter/non songs/fake adds or whatever else they decided to do. Really kills the flow of the albums for me. But even with that, each album has several killer songs.

EdsonNascimento said:

And Leash (etc.) and the rest of the Seattle scene does not exist without The Who. Yes, there are clearly other influences, but that's the core of it.  But, that doesn't mean you have to like it.  Just makes it strange.

I was with you all the way until this statement. 
You could probably say the punk movement of the '70's and '80's don't exist without The Who.  
All subjective.  No right or wrong.  And yes, I do love the Who.  I'm just not ready to give them credit for the Seattle movement (or even a part of it).  It's way too far removed by years, geography, style, ect....

I love America and Yellow Ledbetter but I absolutely despise when Mike plays the Star Spangled Banner.  It’s not a rock song and it completely ruins the vibe of otherwise fanstastic shows. 

Jbarker said:

Im a conservative...

GHAD that feels good to finally get off my chest.


Plus I can’t stand Ed playing guitar.
Dont mind if he writes guitar parts but I prefer when he is a “singing only” frontman. 

But without the guitar strapped to him there is always the risk that he’s gonna start throwing out tamborines...

mcgruff10 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

MedozK said:

mcgruff10 said:

Using any of the following phrases is really really lame:
1. Uncle Neil (you aren’t in the band and he isn’t your uncle.)
2. Jamily 
3. It doesn’t get “Eddie Vedder” than this. (No, no and no.)

May I add one...it's a Benaroya Hall  .... not a Benny!!!

I'll add to this as well:

It's EBAY.  Not "the bay."  Not "the auction site."  Not "that site that can't be named."  It has never been against the rules to type the word "ebay" when referring to ebay.

It doesnt get Eddie Vedder than picking up a  cheap Benny in lost dogs and not on the bay!  God I love the Jamily!!!  Too bad Uncle Neil didn’t play that night

Well, after reading through this thread, an unpopular opinion is that I like U2 and Bono  

Regarding PJ, i do not like Amongst the Waves at all. Love most of backspacer, but this song has always grated on me.  Of the small handful of other PJ songs I don't like, many would probably agree, but I'm sure I'm on a bit of an island with AtW 

And one other one!

I do not get the concept of "piss break" songs.  I have been to many GA shows in general, and have always found it easy to use the restroom before the show starts and would rather hear the entire live show in full.  And I would never get tired of Even Flow to ever consider leaving the crowd to do other things