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OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,812
What are some of the opinions you hold that most of the rest of us don't? A song we all love that you don't care for? Maybe you like Sirens? Maybe Matt Chamberlain is your favorite drummer.  Maybe you love Pearl Jam's music but not their concerts (what?).  Maybe you think they should play the same setlist every night (again, what?).    We all eat, drink, and sleep this band so much, I bet most of us have tastes that set us apart. Me first...
  • I really like Sirens. I like it better than a lot of very popular songs.
  • If I go to 50 more shows, I am content never hearing the following songs again: Elderly Woman, Black, Rocking in the Free World, and Daughter .
  • I made a ranked list of all songs from the 10 albums, Merkin Ball, and Lost Dogs and "Black" barely made the top 100 (98).  I think a big part of it for me is it's probably the extended song that I don't think should be extended...the extra few minutes are kind of a drag.  Bootlegs probably ruined this song for me. 
  • I prefer reserved to GA. I also prefer outdoors (I think this is unpopular) and most prefer amphitheaters.
  • I do not own, nor have I ever considered owning, a poster.
  • It's hard to complain about the shows, but I feel they play too many covers. It should be one or two per show.
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  • RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,359
    I think Bono stinks, no one should call him B EVER and Eddies diatribe about him ruined Fenway I this year. Confirmed on bootleg. Set destroying.
  • cwjacwja Posts: 132
    As a whole, Backspacer is one of their 5 best records.

    I would be fine never hearing Dissident or Smile again.
  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    RS65573 said:
    I think Bono stinks, no one should call him B EVER and Eddies diatribe about him ruined Fenway I this year. Confirmed on bootleg. Set destroying.


    Bono does suck but don't let it ruin your show!!!

    I really like 21Pilots

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited October 2018
    Outdoors vs indoors I think is not that of an unpopular opinion. I love seeing bands outdoor and have the sun set during a show. I hate being indoors and be like "hey wait, there is the jumbotron and right.. yeah... were in a hockey arena".

    I think many on here think they play too many covers, as evident by the... was it the seattle shows? Where it was like loads of covers. Personally I'm fine with it.
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  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    Would rather hear a dog bark than Neil Young sing.
  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    It's ridiculous that Seattle claims Jimi Hendrix as their own. Yes, he was born there and buried there.
    But he also had to go to Europe to get some respect and get "discovered".  Because Seattle would have nothing to do with him at the time. 
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  • KC138045KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,715
    lolobugg said:
    RS65573 said:
    I think Bono stinks, no one should call him B EVER and Eddies diatribe about him ruined Fenway I this year. Confirmed on bootleg. Set destroying.


    Bono does suck but don't let it ruin your show!!!

    I really like 21Pilots

    Haha yeah you do!  Right there with you :rofl:
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  • MedozK said:
    Would rather hear a dog bark than Neil Young sing.



    :P 
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  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,209
    edited October 2018
    MedozK said:
    Would rather hear a dog bark than Neil Young sing.



    :P 
    :lol:
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,586
    edited October 2018
    Sorry, it was correctly pointed out that this is on The Porch and should therefore be all about Pearl Jam's music.
    Did not note what forum it was in when I responded with my unpopular opinion about others' opinions.  :)

    On PJ's music:
    Can't Deny Me is a good song.
    Backspacer & Lightning Bolt are NOT the two lowest listed albums on the released by Pearl Jam album rankings.
    Bee Girl is really, really, bad.
    Parachutes is right there with Bee Girl.
    Post edited by F Me In The Brain on
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  • SlettelleirSlettelleir Mendota Heights, MN Posts: 108
    I also thoroughly enjoy Sirens!  Maybe it just hits close to home with me, and reminds me to appreciate what’s in front of you before you’re/it’s gone

  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,218
    Umm... I thought this was about music?

    "You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts."

    I do not like "Crazy Mary." I do not like it in a box, I do not like it with a fox. I do not like it in GA, I do not like it at Fenway. I do not like it here or there. I do not like it anywhere.
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  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,758
    Sick to death hearing about Dave A.

    The Yield tour was the least impressive of the period 1994 through 2006.

    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.




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  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,335
    MedozK said:
    Would rather hear a dog bark than Neil Young sing.
    Thanks for making me laugh at the end of my work day..... however, I don't agree ;)
  • Foriginal SinForiginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,743
    edited October 2018
    OnWis97 said:
    What are some of the opinions you hold that most of the rest of us don't? A song we all love that you don't care for? Maybe you like Sirens? Maybe Matt Chamberlain is your favorite drummer.  Maybe you love Pearl Jam's music but not their concerts (what?).  Maybe you think they should play the same setlist every night (again, what?).    We all eat, drink, and sleep this band so much, I bet most of us have tastes that set us apart. Me first...
    • I really like Sirens. I like it better than a lot of very popular songs.
    • If I go to 50 more shows, I am content never hearing the following songs again: Elderly Woman, Black, Rocking in the Free World, and Daughter .
    • I made a ranked list of all songs from the 10 albums, Merkin Ball, and Lost Dogs and "Black" barely made the top 100 (98).  I think a big part of it for me is it's probably the extended song that I don't think should be extended...the extra few minutes are kind of a drag.  Bootlegs probably ruined this song for me. 
    • I prefer reserved to GA. I also prefer outdoors (I think this is unpopular) and most prefer amphitheaters.
    • I do not own, nor have I ever considered owning, a poster.
    • It's hard to complain about the shows, but I feel they play too many covers. It should be one or two per show.
    I would love to hear a concert where they literally play all the radio hits and some covers. Just once, the crowd (majority not fan club members) would be BLOWN AWAY. They’re already blown away when they don’t know half the songs. I know that’s taboo around here

    Sirens is fucking amazing. McCready wrote he music so you know it’s already good. The words mean a lot, we’re not angry little teens and young 20 somethings anymore. I don’t need the anger all the time 

    i also prefer reserved to GA. I’m too old to be wasting time trying to get on the rail. I’ll take my reserved seat just behind the back of GA anyday.
    Same goes for Merch, it was fun when you got something for yourself, now people are buying for everyone, especially people that are not even at the show?!? and those extras usually end up being sold at extremely high prices to people who were at the show and wanted some memorabilia. I think Wrigley 2013 is when this trend started and it’s insane to me. 
    Post edited by Foriginal Sin on
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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,100
    Dave Grohl should stick to drums.  He's one of the best drummers and worst guitarists out there.

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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    -- I, too, prefer outdoor shows.
    -- Of the Earth is a decent song, but easily the most overrated and overhyped of the band's catalog.
    -- Other songs I don't quite understand all the love for - Black, Marker in the Sand, The End
    -- I wish Yellow Ledbetter would be retired forever
    -- Songs most hate/don't care for but I enjoy - The Fixer, Ole, My Father's Son, Just Breathe, Sleeping By Myself, Can't Deny Me
    -- Dave A isn't as relevant as people think
    -- Backspacer and Lightning Bolt are underappreciated
    -- Covers are awesome
    -- Nirvana (aside from Nevermind), Soundgarden (aside from Superunknown), Mudhoney, & Sleater-Kinney make hardly any music I want to listen to
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,586
    -- I, too, prefer outdoor shows.
    -- Of the Earth is a decent song, but easily the most overrated and overhyped of the band's catalog.
    -- Other songs I don't quite understand all the love for - Black, Marker in the Sand, The End
    -- I wish Yellow Ledbetter would be retired forever
    -- Songs most hate/don't care for but I enjoy - The Fixer, Ole, My Father's Son, Just Breathe, Sleeping By Myself, Can't Deny Me
    -- Dave A isn't as relevant as people think
    -- Backspacer and Lightning Bolt are underappreciated
    -- Covers are awesome
    -- Nirvana (aside from Nevermind), Soundgarden (aside from Superunknown), Mudhoney, & Sleater-Kinney make hardly any music I want to listen to
    Oh, that is a great one for me to add:
    Mudhoney is an assault on my ears, and not in any way good. 
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  • Kearn5yKearn5y Ireland Posts: 2,684
    I hate covers. Dont want to hear them ever
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited October 2018
    - I think they should get back to having (good) opening bands
    - I don't like this idea fans do of  "checking off" songs - like collecting cards from Topps. 
    - I don't think (from the boots) that the MSG shows through the years have been "all that"
    - Boston 2010 is one of their best shows/boots
    - I've never fallen for Come Back. Sirens > Come Back
    - I think No Code is, relative to the other albums, kind of a drag to put on most of the time
    - I don't like the "two opening songs" openings they've done since 2013 or whenever that started. I don't have a problem with "Release > low light" but "Release > Long Road" and such does not work.
    - I don't think Pearl Jam should adhere to "limited edition" and such tactics to sell more merch or to do it like everyone else does. Release quality stuff and make it available for those who want it.
    - I think they should release some Pearl Jam boxershorts
    - They should get back to being more "Neil Youngish" instead of "Bruce Springsteenish" and stop with the gimmicks and staged stuff at the shows - like throwing out 20 tambourines and going down to the crowd etc.
    - Riot Act is perfect and I wish they would have dvelved even deeper on that path for future albums
    - Turn your back on the fans again, go experimental and stop with the fun-for-the-whole-family-thing.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    PB11041 said:
    Sick to death hearing about Dave A.

    The Yield tour was the least impressive of the period 1994 through 2006.

    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.





    what??????????

    are you Pro or Con Dave A?

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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,031
    edited October 2018
    - Of The Earth is one of PJs best songs
    - Can’t Deny Me is awesome live
    - I love the outdoor shows
    - Don’t like Jeremy or Dissident
    - Ole is an ok song. Can’t understand the way people trash it. 
    - I can’t stand Dave Matthews Bands music. Just terrible. 
    - I have always thought Dave A drumming was just ok 
    - I love when PJ do covers and don’t want less of them 
    - Binaural for me is one of PJs best albums. 
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,630
    I like the older live versions of most songs due to the pace.  Most seem rushed these days.
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  • The whole concept of a "Rock n Roll Hall of Fame" is pathetically lame and whether somone is 'in it or not means nothing to me whatsoever. I'm embarrassed for them that Pearl Jam agreed to it. The only thing that could match that for commercialised, kitsch, embarrassing lameness would be a Super Bowl halftime show, so please don't ever do that Pearl Jam.
  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,758
    lolobugg said:
    PB11041 said:
    Sick to death hearing about Dave A.

    The Yield tour was the least impressive of the period 1994 through 2006.

    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.





    what??????????

    are you Pro or Con Dave A?

    I am not pro or con Dave A.   I am con those who are still not over this thing that happened 25 years ago, including Dave A who continues to act like an infant about what happened.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • The whole concept of a "Rock n Roll Hall of Fame" is pathetically lame and whether somone is 'in it or not means nothing to me whatsoever. I'm embarrassed for them that Pearl Jam agreed to it. The only thing that could match that for commercialised, kitsch, embarrassing lameness would be a Super Bowl halftime show, so please don't ever do that Pearl Jam.
    I am certain they will do it one day.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    edited October 2018
    PB11041 said:
    lolobugg said:
    PB11041 said:
    Sick to death hearing about Dave A.

    The Yield tour was the least impressive of the period 1994 through 2006.

    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.





    what??????????

    are you Pro or Con Dave A?

    I am not pro or con Dave A.   I am con those who are still not over this thing that happened 25 years ago, including Dave A who continues to act like an infant about what happened.  
    Seems though, that some (not saying you) conflict "talking about a former member fondly, which was a part of the band people are fans of enough to join the bands fanclub" with "can't get over". It sometimes feel it's not okey to dig Dave A, instead you have to take digs at him. 

    Two sides of the coin. As Ace Frehley so famously sang.


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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,175
    PB11041 said:
    lolobugg said:
    PB11041 said:
    Sick to death hearing about Dave A.

    The Yield tour was the least impressive of the period 1994 through 2006.

    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.





    what??????????

    are you Pro or Con Dave A?

    I am not pro or con Dave A.   I am con those who are still not over this thing that happened 25 years ago, including Dave A who continues to act like an infant about what happened.  

    I agree. some of his friends threatened to come to my wife's house and kill her over some comments she made about Dave A.  I am def over it. not a fan

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  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 3,218
    PB11041 said:


    Lightning Bolt is a much better record than most are willing to accept/admit.


    I think Lightning Bolt is a great album. :-)
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,416
    -- I, too, prefer outdoor shows.
    -- Of the Earth is a decent song, but easily the most overrated and overhyped of the band's catalog.
    -- Other songs I don't quite understand all the love for - Black, Marker in the Sand, The End
    -- I wish Yellow Ledbetter would be retired forever
    -- Songs most hate/don't care for but I enjoy - The Fixer, Ole, My Father's Son, Just Breathe, Sleeping By Myself, Can't Deny Me
    -- Dave A isn't as relevant as people think
    -- Backspacer and Lightning Bolt are underappreciated
    -- Covers are awesome
    -- Nirvana (aside from Nevermind), Soundgarden (aside from Superunknown), Mudhoney, & Sleater-Kinney make hardly any music I want to listen to
    I'll also add:
    -- Nine Inch Nails original version of Hurt is 999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999x better than Johnny Cash's cover!
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