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Nor were or are they under oath.Gern Blansten said:
They are basing it on the three people that she named at the party not being able to back up her story. It's convenient for them...of course those three don't remember because they weren't assaulted and Ford didn't tell them she was assaulted.Spiritual_Chaos said:
And what are theY basing that theorY on -- a theorY theY all now parrot?Gern Blansten said:
I haven't heard any conservative say they think she is lying. Even the GOP senators said that she was credible...they just think she is mistaken that it was Kavanaugh.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
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Cuomo is speaking a bit about this here. Just happen to listen to it now. Cuomo
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The main problem with the analogy is that Till was not killed because of a movement for the rights of women. He was killed because he was a black kid and that was as good an excuse as any. The men who murdered that 14 year old held white women in just a wee bit higher regard than a black kid. This was a racist issue. Kavanaugh is a sexist issue.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?Post edited by njnancy on0 -
I teach Till as it happened and the effect it had on the Civil Rights Movement.Halifax2TheMax said:Would you teach a compare/contrast class on emmet till and Kavanaugh, if you believe Unsung’s analogy?
Shaking my head in wonder.
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And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I forget who was questioning Kavanaugh at the time but I remember they asked about some legal phrase that basically meant "if caught lying once you are likely lying multiple times".
Kavanaugh was clearly lying about his drinking habits. He was clearly lying about the yearbook entries. He is only a few years older than me...I went to school with pricks like him. Boofing referred to farts? Devil's Triangle a drinking game? Fucking bullshit.
If he would have been truthful from the start he would have been confirmed already. Now he's in the performance of his life to get his lifetime seat.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Having an educated, thoughtful one is more powerful. Defend your position then..or leave. I welcome a good argument, be glad to hear what you think are the similarities between Till and Kavanaugh. Please..mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?0 -
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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It does to me. Woman claims something and fifty years later she admits that she is lying. Like I said, no one knows the truth except the two people in the room.Gern Blansten said:
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Emitt till was killed in money, Mississippi because he either whistled or said something like “see you later baby” at a white woman. She told her husband and he killed emitt. Turns out the lady made the whole thing up.brianlux said:Thanks, McG! Yeah, right, like the Dylan song. (My memory is not so good these days.)Not sure what that incident has to do with Kavanaugh though."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Nothing. The analysis is at the level of “some woman once said something that wasn’t true, so you can’t believe any of them”brianlux said:mcgruff10 said:
Emitt till was killed in money, Mississippi because he either whistled or said something like “see you later baby” at a white woman. She told her husband and he killed emitt. Turns out the lady made the whole thing up.brianlux said:Thanks, McG! Yeah, right, like the Dylan song. (My memory is not so good these days.)Not sure what that incident has to do with Kavanaugh though.
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It s an example. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It happens. The effects of till s murder on the civil rights movement are very similar to the implications on the Supreme Court. Ms Bryant lied for fifty years, who knows what the truth is with Kavanaugh? Like I said before, would tawana Brawley be the better example?oftenreading said:
Nothing. The analysis is at the level of “some woman once said something that wasn’t true, so you can’t believe any of them”brianlux said:mcgruff10 said:
Emitt till was killed in money, Mississippi because he either whistled or said something like “see you later baby” at a white woman. She told her husband and he killed emitt. Turns out the lady made the whole thing up.brianlux said:Thanks, McG! Yeah, right, like the Dylan song. (My memory is not so good these days.)Not sure what that incident has to do with Kavanaugh though.
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Somebody lied once and so there is a connection here?I guess it works as an example for every incident in the history of the world.And from my chair and most sane chairs, Ford isn't lying. Kavanaugh certainly has been.0
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This isn't a courtroom.mcgruff10 said:
It does to me. Woman claims something and fifty years later she admits that she is lying. Like I said, no one knows the truth except the two people in the room.Gern Blansten said:
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?
It is a (very important) job interview.
He has not been accused by only one woman.
He had proven to be lying in the hearing - she has not.
Etc.
Get back from the planet of unsung, and enter reality.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I'm really impressed that you didn't respond with a kiss meme or some odd poll. good on you.Spiritual_Chaos said:
This isn't a courtroom.mcgruff10 said:
It does to me. Woman claims something and fifty years later she admits that she is lying. Like I said, no one knows the truth except the two people in the room.Gern Blansten said:
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?
It is a (very important) job interview.
He has not been accused by only one woman.
He had proven to be lying in the hearing - she has not.
Etc.
Get back from the planet of unsung, and enter reality.
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We all understand it’s an example. It just happens to be an irrelevant one, because the circumstances are so completely different.mcgruff10 said:
It s an example. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It happens. The effects of till s murder on the civil rights movement are very similar to the implications on the Supreme Court. Ms Bryant lied for fifty years, who knows what the truth is with Kavanaugh? Like I said before, would tawana Brawley be the better example?oftenreading said:
Nothing. The analysis is at the level of “some woman once said something that wasn’t true, so you can’t believe any of them”brianlux said:mcgruff10 said:
Emitt till was killed in money, Mississippi because he either whistled or said something like “see you later baby” at a white woman. She told her husband and he killed emitt. Turns out the lady made the whole thing up.brianlux said:Thanks, McG! Yeah, right, like the Dylan song. (My memory is not so good these days.)Not sure what that incident has to do with Kavanaugh though.
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you mean three people, right?mcgruff10 said:
It does to me. Woman claims something and fifty years later she admits that she is lying. Like I said, no one knows the truth except the two people in the room.Gern Blansten said:
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?
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Take them one case at a time. Gather the information, maybe give a lie detector test, go to court, make a determination. Why complicate the situation? Why make assumptions? Get the facts. Make a judgement. If guilty, apply appropriate punishment and make an example of inappropriate behavior. Men, be cool, set a good example, treat women as equals. Women, be truthful, don't fabricate bullshit.Damn, this is such a crazy mixed up world. Maybe that's what make's my head spin? (Sure wish I had an answer to that vexing issue. Sorry- I know, it's not all about me.)"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I have never responded with a "kiss meme" on this board.mcgruff10 said:
I'm really impressed that you didn't respond with a kiss meme or some odd poll. good on you.Spiritual_Chaos said:
This isn't a courtroom.mcgruff10 said:
It does to me. Woman claims something and fifty years later she admits that she is lying. Like I said, no one knows the truth except the two people in the room.Gern Blansten said:
I can't fathom how you would begin to compare Till to Kavanaugh. Makes zero sense on any level.mcgruff10 said:
And this reminds me why I don't post here anymore. God forbid you have a different opinion and the entire forum pounces on you. Have a great day.mrussel1 said:
That's all well and good, but comparing Till to Kavanaugh is outrageous. If one can't distinguish the difference between telling your spouse something and testifying under oath, with the world watching, then one must be deliberately obtuse.mcgruff10 said:
Bud my take on this whole thing is this: my liberal friends think she is telling the truth. My conservative friends think that she is lying. The only two people who really know what happened are the two of them, the rest of us don’t know shit.mrussel1 said:
So every false accusation trumps a real one? Is there a tally sheet somewhere? Did all the children accusing the priests lying? They must be using your logic.mcgruff10 said:Mr Bryant listened to his wife. He killed emmit till. Turns out she made the whole thing up. Why is unsung wrong?i think it is a good analogy.
His wife didn't testify, didn't raise her hand. Didn't sit in front of the whole country while it watched. How about using some critical thinking?
It is a (very important) job interview.
He has not been accused by only one woman.
He had proven to be lying in the hearing - she has not.
Etc.
Get back from the planet of unsung, and enter reality.
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