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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,922
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    The GOP got dirty and was rewarded handsomely.  Independents went hard for them.  

    Evil has already won the war.  Row v. Wade will be overturned in a matter of months.  Trump has full protection from the party (in what is essentially a one-party system) and now the Supreme Court.  

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what this impotent party does. The Dems used to be Pepsi to the GOP Coke. Now they're RC.  Evil has every battle since the election of Obama riled them up.  And they've pretty much won the war.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,511
    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    no, that was a monstrous mistake on her part. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,922
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
  • oftenreading
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    OnWis97 said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    The GOP got dirty and was rewarded handsomely.  Independents went hard for them.  

    Evil has already won the war.  Row v. Wade will be overturned in a matter of months.  Trump has full protection from the party (in what is essentially a one-party system) and now the Supreme Court.  

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what this impotent party does. The Dems used to be Pepsi to the GOP Coke. Now they're RC.  Evil has every battle since the election of Obama riled them up.  And they've pretty much won the war.

    I don't think Roe v Wade will be overturned, at least not that quickly. I do think it will be made irrelevant by the host of other restrictions put on abortion, nibbling or gnawing away at choice, until there is really no practical way to access abortion for the majority of women. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
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  • mickeyrat
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    OnWis97 said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    The GOP got dirty and was rewarded handsomely.  Independents went hard for them.  

    Evil has already won the war.  Row v. Wade will be overturned in a matter of months.  Trump has full protection from the party (in what is essentially a one-party system) and now the Supreme Court.  

    The truth is that it doesn't matter what this impotent party does. The Dems used to be Pepsi to the GOP Coke. Now they're RC.  Evil has every battle since the election of Obama riled them up.  And they've pretty much won the war.

    I don't think Roe v Wade will be overturned, at least not that quickly. I do think it will be made irrelevant by the host of other restrictions put on abortion, nibbling or gnawing away at choice, until there is really no practical way to access abortion for the majority of women. 
    I think on some issues Roberts will slide left and fill Kennedys role.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    I guess I don't see opportunism the same as being unethical in politics. these types of things are timed for a very specific reason. and it works. who knows if that's what happened here, or if they finally were able to convince her to go public and it just happened to be the right time. But either way, right now is the most damaging. but you're right, a lot of people are going to question the validity of this claim, and the ethics of parading a sexual assault victim, simply because of its timing. 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    And when the Red Wave hits, it won't be because of "going dirty."  It will be because this is who we are; Trump is who we are.  And if I happen to be wrong and those polls have any merit whatsoever, holding up Kavanaugh is not going to change that.  I'd say that if anything, we're numb to this stuff.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    you'll have to forgive my lack of confidence in polls these days. HC had a 98% chance of being president according to pretty much every poll out there. 
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  • my2hands
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    The Kavanaugh selection must all be about his views that basically presidents are above the law though, right?
    There must be a hundred qualified very conservative judges whose decisions would be 100% predictable in the GOP's direction, yet they chose someone who has perjured himself multiple times, had all that debt (gambling?) mysteriously disappear and about 90% of whose record they have had to keep hidden from the public as it is too toxic for the mainstream, all before the rape allegations.

    Plus it is very confusing that his drunk loser school buddy has the last name Judge.  
    The GOP aren't the only people out there that want an imperial presidency. 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    November is a strong lean to the Dems right now.  As I said above the way to hurt yourself with Independents and Undecided's is by turning them off to the process. the majority knows the republicans are assholes right now.  if you become an asshole you can only hurt yourself in the short term.  keep them engaged.
    you'll have to forgive my lack of confidence in polls these days. HC had a 98% chance of being president according to pretty much every poll out there. 
    And then the election was hacked and votes were manipulated 

    Unless of course you believe the official narrative that hacking and meddling occured but under no circumstance were vote totals tampered with. Yeah, ok, sure. Russia is a convenient fall guy, more interests than the Russians wanted this loser in there. So far, so good. 
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  • mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
    That was Michelle.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mickeyrat said:
    pjhawks said:
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    So she’s willing to put her whole life under a microscope on a lie ? 


    I am not saying at all she is lying.  If someone came to you though and said we need you to ruin your life so that abortion is not made illegal, would you do it?  Would you put your comfort ahead of millions of women if you were pro-choice?   I'm sure there are lots of people out there that would do anything to prevent abortion rights being overturned.  They'd view it as a civic duty or for the common good just like someone volunteering in the military knowing they could die.

    Again, not saying that is what she is doing here. 

    Maybe but there are therapists notes from years ago saying she brought it up in sessions.  Also hard to think someone would put themselves at risk of perjury for the cause.  Kavanaugh looks like the type of douche that would act like that as a stuffed shirt high brow teenager though.   I do think the Dems look bad bringing it out this late in the game.  Politics at it's worst.  It will be very interesting to see their testimonies to see if they sound believable.
    Politics at its worst? Obama’s nominee couldn’t even get a hearing. Team Trump Treason releasing millions of documents two days before a vote? Yup, politics at its worst. Fuck the republicans and their attempt to stack a court to protect Team Trump Treason. Dems take the house and you might just see the impeachment of a Supreme Court justice for perjury before the senate Judiciary Committee.
    two wrongs don't make a right. of course the republicans were assholes with Obama's nominee but that doesn't make what is going on here right either.  Look I'm a Dem and I don't want this guy in the Court either but I don't like how this came about.  The their side is worse or their side did it first is why we are in the mess politically today we are.  
    You want to know why Dems keep losing? Because they don’t wrestle in the mud with repubs. I’m tired of losing and this candidate and administration is the swamp. Until the repubs take the high road and play “nice?,” fuck them.
    Disagree.  Going dirty will turn the Independents and Undecided's off.  Today independents and undecideds are leaning your way. The key is getting them out to vote in November. Going dirty at this moment may make them stay home which is bad for the Dems.  Remember evil wins battles but rarely the war.  Eventually good overtakes evil. 
    That’s if you agree that what the Dems did was dirty. It’s politics. Dirty is trying to ram a life time appointment to the Supreme Court down our throats without a proper hearing process. Had the repubs released those documents with the proper amount of time to be reviewed, maybe they wouldn’t be where they are today? And why is the burden on always on the Dems to take the high road? Look what that’s gotten us.
     
    Because we are better people and eventually people don't want to associate with assholes.  Didn't you have a friend at one time that was an asshole?  yea is fun and funny for a bit but after awhile it gets old and you no longer want to be around them. that's what's coming in November. 
    I don't know. I tend to agree with halifax here. Only because hillary tried going high when they go low, and she lost. And the losing will just keep continuing if the left doesn't fight back. playing nice isn't working. 
    calling a portion of the electorate deplorables was going high? no matter how accurate it may or may not have been, wasnt what I would call going high.
    Is Team Trump Treason not deplorable and by extension those folks who voted for him? It’s not like Team Trump Treason is squeaky clean and was called that. Going negative, when warranted and accurate, works. Not responding does not.
    the point was she made a big deal out of "when they go low, we go high". calling his supporters names was not going high. true or not is not relevant. 
    That was Michelle.
    hillary co-opted it. 
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I say his accuser is full of sh*t.