Idea on how to fix the "holiday single" problem.

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,048
    Zod said:
    pjhawks said:
    how to fix the problem? don't make written promises you don't intend to keep.
    I would be more cordial than that... lol.    If they're struggling with doing them then I think people would be ok if they were honest and said they were struggling to make them.    Then possibly discontinue the analog membership (because it's kind of pointless without the single), and let everyone go digital only.   They could make sure they put out the last two singles that they're currently obligate to do, but then wrap it up after that?
    why? would you act the same if Amazon promised something once a year you paid for and didn't get it?  i honestly don't get people defending 10C here.  It's just not right that they promote something and don't deliver on time...on a regular basis.  Personally I don't really care about the single itself. i just don't like how they disregard it.  It's bad business and it's poor customer service.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,001
    they have more than enough unreleased studio material to release several xmas singles on time. for them to claim they haven't had time to get into the studio to do it laughable. demos, outtakes, live tunes that never made the rounds on the net, etc. all they need it jeff or ames to do the art and boom, done. 
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  • PeArLgOoNeR
    PeArLgOoNeR Posts: 1,250
    Just put Cold Confession and Let it Ride on it.. 

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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,853
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    Just put Cold Confession and Let it Ride on it.. 
    This is the correct answer.

    Problem solved, we can wrap this thread up now.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    edited September 2018
    goldrush said:
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    Just put Cold Confession and Let it Ride on it.. 
    This is the correct answer.

    Problem solved, we can wrap this thread up now.
    Then we'd have a 100 page thread of people bitching because they got songs that were already available (albeit not officially).

    I have said this numerous times and I'll say it again.  The single should be pressed and ready to go by February 1st every year.  Those who sign up/renew in January get it when they start shipping in Feb.  Those that sign up/renew Feb-Dec have it shipped on their sign up/renewal date.  We hardly ever get anything other than live songs now for the annual single anyway, so there is really no excuse not to be ahead of the damn game on this instead of continually 2 years fucking behind.
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  • drummerboy_73
    drummerboy_73 Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,011
    HesCalledDyer said:
    goldrush said:
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    Just put Cold Confession and Let it Ride on it.. 
    This is the correct answer.

    Problem solved, we can wrap this thread up now.
    Then we'd have a 100 page thread of people bitching because they got songs that were already available (albeit not officially).

    I have said this numerous times and I'll say it again.  The single should be pressed and ready to go by February 1st every year.  Those who sign up/renew in January get it when they start shipping in Feb.  Those that sign up/renew Feb-Dec have it shipped on their sign up/renewal date.  We hardly ever get anything other than live songs now for the annual single anyway, so there is really no excuse not to be ahead of the damn game on this instead of continually 2 years fucking behind.
     Boom.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,001
    HesCalledDyer said:
    goldrush said:
    PeArLgOoNeR said:
    Just put Cold Confession and Let it Ride on it.. 
    This is the correct answer.

    Problem solved, we can wrap this thread up now.
    Then we'd have a 100 page thread of people bitching because they got songs that were already available (albeit not officially).

    I have said this numerous times and I'll say it again.  The single should be pressed and ready to go by February 1st every year.  Those who sign up/renew in January get it when they start shipping in Feb.  Those that sign up/renew Feb-Dec have it shipped on their sign up/renewal date.  We hardly ever get anything other than live songs now for the annual single anyway, so there is really no excuse not to be ahead of the damn game on this instead of continually 2 years fucking behind.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,001
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.
    I did too for one year. but I missed the physical copy of Deep. too bad the year I switched back to analog the magazine was nothing but pictures of some crew member's PJ collection. 
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,274
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.

    To each their own, but at $10+shipping for the single, the extra $20 has more value than just the single.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    Lost In Ohio said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.

    To each their own, but at $10+shipping for the single, the extra $20 has more value than just the single.
    Yeah, in the past I've always argued in favor of the membership fee far exceeding the value of the benefits received.  The problem for me is that it's just gotten to a point where it would be more valuable if it was on time, not a year or two late.  I'm paying a membership fee to get a product and service that they're promising for that specific year but consistently failing hard to fulfill.  They'll get my extra $20 again when they can do that.  Ten Club is the only fan club that operates this way, and most of us just accept it. We shrug our shoulders and say "That's just the Ten Club, get used to it."  Why are we all ok with this? All it does is further enable them to get away with unfulfilled promises.  If U2 or Dave Matthews or Metallica or Lady Gaga did this to their paying fans, there would be uproar. But Pearl Jam/Ten Club does it and we're all just complacent with the behavior.
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  • mace1229
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    HesCalledDyer said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.

    To each their own, but at $10+shipping for the single, the extra $20 has more value than just the single.
    Yeah, in the past I've always argued in favor of the membership fee far exceeding the value of the benefits received.  The problem for me is that it's just gotten to a point where it would be more valuable if it was on time, not a year or two late.  I'm paying a membership fee to get a product and service that they're promising for that specific year but consistently failing hard to fulfill.  They'll get my extra $20 again when they can do that.  Ten Club is the only fan club that operates this way, and most of us just accept it. We shrug our shoulders and say "That's just the Ten Club, get used to it."  Why are we all ok with this? All it does is further enable them to get away with unfulfilled promises.  If U2 or Dave Matthews or Metallica or Lady Gaga did this to their paying fans, there would be uproar. But Pearl Jam/Ten Club does it and we're all just complacent with the behavior.
    Not true, I'll saw off my right arm before I leave Lady Gaga's fan club.
  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,391
    I just want something from last year.  Reupped in May to analog and still don't have any vinyl from it.  We're in this together!
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  • Umbertotamba
    Umbertotamba Posts: 1,385

    They need to do a 2X45 set like they did for 94/95.

    It could be Side A : Full band Studio Cover Of Eve Of Destruction, Side B Solo Ed playing Hurt, Side C We Are Gonna Be Friends, and Side D Jack Whites Daughter Cover....

    Everyone Will be Happy!!!

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,029
    I have an idea how to fix the annual single problem.
    Send out a single once a year!
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    mace1229 said:
    I have an idea how to fix the annual single problem.
    Send out a single once a year!
    And do it the same year we pay for it!
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  • PJForceofNature
    PJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.


    Same here.
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  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    Lost In Ohio said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    :wink: I switched to digital. I'll buy the 45's when the extra inventory hits the shop.

    To each their own, but at $10+shipping for the single, the extra $20 has more value than just the single.
    This...
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,712
    Remember when we used to get 10c stickers?  and a patch?
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  • Foriginal Sin
    Foriginal Sin Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,877
    edited September 2018
    Shit, when was the last vinyl single sent out? I haven’t even thought about it anymore, my $40 just gets deducted every February 
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