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  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    That’s one of the things I loved about the Grateful Dead. They’d do stadiums AND 90 shows per year. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 
    11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
    7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
    11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula.  5-10-2024 Portland.  5-30-2024 Seattle.
  • mrk2
    mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,093
    Touring 90 shows per year got the frontman to his grave at the age of 53.
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,775
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Ed said they won't be playing live for a while.

  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    Milestone said:
    That’s one of the things I loved about the Grateful Dead. They’d do stadiums AND 90 shows per year. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. 
    Yeah, I think that’s beyond what you should expect from this band at this point. Quality OVER quantity.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,808
    PJ have played roughly 60 shows between 2015-18 combined.  On that basis there is absolutely no reason to think 70 shows in a single year is ever going to happen.  They do have to do laundry like the rest of us after all.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    kst said:
    PJ have played roughly 60 shows between 2015-18 combined.  On that basis there is absolutely no reason to think 70 shows in a single year is ever going to happen.  They do have to do laundry like the rest of us after all.
    2015-18 are non studio album release years. 

    I know folks have railed on me about my 70 show comment. These were regular numbers in Yield, Binsural, Riot Act, and Avocado release years. I’m not completely crazy..... 
    11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
    7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
    11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula.  5-10-2024 Portland.  5-30-2024 Seattle.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,808
    Milestone said:
    kst said:
    PJ have played roughly 60 shows between 2015-18 combined.  On that basis there is absolutely no reason to think 70 shows in a single year is ever going to happen.  They do have to do laundry like the rest of us after all.
    2015-18 are non studio album release years. 

    I know folks have railed on me about my 70 show comment. These were regular numbers in Yield, Binsural, Riot Act, and Avocado release years. I’m not completely crazy..... 
    Listen I hope you're right.  They did play 25 dates in Q4 2013 following the release of LB and another 25 or so shows in 2014 which could be considered LB related or not.  So you could interpret that as 50 in a year for the album.  But I would be quite surprised (pleasantly) if we ever see more than 25 shows in a 12 month period.  Part of me thinks there won't be any shows in 2019 at all.  A la 17.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Milestone
    Milestone Posts: 1,143
    When’s the last time PJ played at Red Rocks? That would be a killer 2 or 3 night party. A destination show, kinda like the Gorge. I’d happily drive there with camping gear and a cooler of beer.
    11-2-2000 Portland. 12-8-2002 Seattle. 4-18-2003 Nashville. 5-30-2003 Vancouver. 10-25-2003 Bridge School. 9-2-2005 Vancouver.
    7-6-2006 Las Vegas. 7-20-2006 Portland. 7-22-2006 Gorge. 9-21-2009 Seattle. 9-22-2009 Seattle. 9-26-2009 Ridgefield. 9-25-2011 Vancouver.
    11-29-2013 Portland. 10-16-2014 Detroit. 8-8-2018 Seattle. 8-10-2018 Seattle. 8-13-2018 Missoula.  5-10-2024 Portland.  5-30-2024 Seattle.
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,914
    Milestone said:
    When’s the last time PJ played at Red Rocks? That would be a killer 2 or 3 night party. A destination show, kinda like the Gorge. I’d happily drive there with camping gear and a cooler of beer.
    It only holds 10k people.  PJ leans towards fewer dates and bigger venues rather than more dates and smaller venues.  Doesn't bode well for red rocks :(  It's on my bucket list, but I'm not sure they'll play it :(
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,410
    Milestone said:
    kst said:
    PJ have played roughly 60 shows between 2015-18 combined.  On that basis there is absolutely no reason to think 70 shows in a single year is ever going to happen.  They do have to do laundry like the rest of us after all.
    2015-18 are non studio album release years. 

    I know folks have railed on me about my 70 show comment. These were regular numbers in Yield, Binsural, Riot Act, and Avocado release years. I’m not completely crazy..... 
    Avocado was 12 years ago, they had a bit more stamina or desire to play more back then.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
  • DL3031
    DL3031 Posts: 22
    A couple of thoughts about # of shows & stadiums: perhaps the # of shows per year will rise in about five to ten years as the children of the band members get older and it becomes easier for them to want to get away. As for stadiums, we can only hope that they return to arenas but in the markets in the U.S. where they can play stadiums, i expect that to continue. It reminds me of the Springsteen model, why play ten shows at the former Brendan Byrne Arena when you can hit the same amount of customers in five shows at Giants Stadium? It's not great for fans to see them at stadiums but it's about economics at the end of the day. 
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    edited September 2018
    OceansJenny said:
    Milestone said:
    kst said:
    PJ have played roughly 60 shows between 2015-18 combined.  On that basis there is absolutely no reason to think 70 shows in a single year is ever going to happen.  They do have to do laundry like the rest of us after all.
    2015-18 are non studio album release years. 

    I know folks have railed on me about my 70 show comment. These were regular numbers in Yield, Binsural, Riot Act, and Avocado release years. I’m not completely crazy..... 
    Avocado was 12 years ago, they had a bit more stamina or desire to play more back then.
    I know that I had a lot more stamina 12 years ago. I get exhausted just attending concerts these days!
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,448
    Milestone said:
    When’s the last time PJ played at Red Rocks? That would be a killer 2 or 3 night party. A destination show, kinda like the Gorge. I’d happily drive there with camping gear and a cooler of beer.
    They haven't been to Indy/Noblesville in 8 years...venue holds about 24K
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cosimo82
    Cosimo82 Posts: 325
    Straya day, that’s pretty realistic. Do you think new album could be release for xmas? No time? 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,140
    For some reason I really want to see pj in Texas. Hopefully next year!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • WhatYouTaughtMe
    WhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    mrk2 said:
    Touring 90 shows per year got the frontman to his grave at the age of 53.
    I'm pretty sure the heavy drug use over the years mixed with Diabetes is what got him to his grave.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    Feb-Mar:
    Ed, Stone, & Boom will tour Florida in “The Pearl League Shows”
    Jeff, Mike, & Matt will tour Arizona in “The Jam League Shows”

    Apr-Sept:
    162 dates, 3 nights each city, with Mondays and/or Thursdays off for “The Regular Season Shows.”  There is a 4-day break mid-July when they join an cast of other bands & musicians for an “All-Star Show” at the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, OH.

    Oct-Nov:
    The band will alternate shows between 10 cities in “The Postseason Shows.” Please note that these shows are not guaranteed and will only go on if the band plays in top form and avoid any health related issues during “The Regular Season Shows.”
    Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 25
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Ha, I would love to see an Ed and Stone only tour.   I immediately think of the Family Guy episode where Peter and Quagmire go on the road and things unravel quickly.  They might last 3 shows.
  • Edved007
    Edved007 Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,065
    They obviously have a lot of studio work to do to "finish" this new album per Ed's comments in Boston.  From the sound of it, they aren't going to be playing another show until that album is out, so I think the best we can hope for is that album gets out sooner than later where we could actually get a couple U.S. warm up/album release shows, then some Euro festivals in the summer, and then some fall U.S. dates....but realistically that album probably isn't going to out till late 2019 at best which, to me, means it's a very real possibility we don't see any real dates until 2020 besides maybe a one off fest show or something like that.  I don't want to be right, but I'm mentally preparing myself for a totally dry 2019.
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    98' - 6/26, 6/27, 6/29, 8/26, 9/22
    03' - 4/25
    06' - 6/29, 6/30
    07' - 8/05
    09' - 8/23
    11' - 9/03, 9/04
    12' - 9/30
    13' - 7/16, 7/19, 10/21, 10/22, 11/15, 11/16, 12/06
    14' - 06/28, 06/29, 10/1, 10/03, 10/16, 10/17, 10/20, 10/22
    15' - 11/20, 11/22
    16' - 4/21, 4/26, 4/28, 4/29, 5/1, 5/2, 7/9, 8/5, 8/7, 8/20, 8/22
    17' - 4/7
    18' - 7/1, 7/3, 7/5, 8/8, 8/10, 8/18, 8/20, 9/4
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    I can't see them taking off 2017 completely, and then 2019 as well.  If so, that really sucks because that means the trend of playing 10-20 shows a year (great for the traveling fan, bad for the non-traveler) would be over and they would be a part-time part-time band at best.

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