Vegan, Vegetarian, Carnivor, or Omnivore?

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Another one for you. 

http://theconversation.com/five-ways-the-meat-on-your-plate-is-killing-the-planet-76128

I feel that it is more about positive farming/ranching practices than taking an extremism point of view on the subject.
 https://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/5-ways-cattle-help-environment

http://www.beefusa.org/ranchingandtheenvironment.aspx

You may feel that way but that doesn’t mean you’re correct. Cattle farming has major environmental impacts and trying to argue it doesn’t is pointless. 

Why dismiss my comments without even reading the articles?  Hypocrite?

"beefmagazine", "beefusa"

Sounds unbiased. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Met a mouse today on my way to work. Wasn't even afraid. Cute.

Pretty sure the mouse’s next stop will be your local vegan market to either eat a healthy dose or rat poison or shit on your lettuce, lol

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Another one for you. 

http://theconversation.com/five-ways-the-meat-on-your-plate-is-killing-the-planet-76128

I feel that it is more about positive farming/ranching practices than taking an extremism point of view on the subject.
 https://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/5-ways-cattle-help-environment

http://www.beefusa.org/ranchingandtheenvironment.aspx

You may feel that way but that doesn’t mean you’re correct. Cattle farming has major environmental impacts and trying to argue it doesn’t is pointless. 

Why dismiss my comments without even reading the articles?  Hypocrite?

"beefmagazine", "beefusa"

Sounds unbiased. 

Of course it’s biased, that doesn’t mean it is incorrect.  Vegetarian promoting sites aren’t biased?  Now, can you please post another stupid meme, pretty please?  Everyone here loves people that cannot think for themselves and post memes every other post...

blackhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Of course it’s biased, that doesn’t mean it is incorrect.  Vegetarian promoting sites aren’t biased?  Now, can you please post another stupid meme, pretty please?  Everyone here loves people that cannot think for themselves and post memes every other post...

I would say spiritual has been found out regarding his memes yet again.  He only replies after visiting giphy.  Because thinking is hard for him........

blackhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Of course it’s biased, that doesn’t mean it is incorrect.  Vegetarian promoting sites aren’t biased?  Now, can you please post another stupid meme, pretty please?  Everyone here loves people that cannot think for themselves and post memes every other post...

I would say spiritual has been found out regarding his memes yet again.  He only replies after visiting giphy.  Because thinking is hard for him........

I’m going to go ahead and agree with you there.  For the record, only shitty people post more than 5 memes a day on the AMT, lol

blackhawks said:

oftenreading said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Another one for you. 

http://theconversation.com/five-ways-the-meat-on-your-plate-is-killing-the-planet-76128

I feel that it is more about positive farming/ranching practices than taking an extremism point of view on the subject.
 https://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/5-ways-cattle-help-environment

http://www.beefusa.org/ranchingandtheenvironment.aspx

You may feel that way but that doesn’t mean you’re correct. Cattle farming has major environmental impacts and trying to argue it doesn’t is pointless. 

You being here has a major impact on the planet.  Perhaps we take care of overpopulation first as the main reason for the current farming practices to feed everyone.  Rather than trying to shame people into one way of thinking/eating like you are saving the planet by eating vegetables.  Kinda like when someone comes to me on the street cramming a bible in my face.  The first thing that comes to my head is punching them square in the fucking mouth for imposing their holier than thou beliefs on me without knowing the person, what I do for others, what I stand for, etc.  

True, over population is the biggest issue facing our planet, but there would be less of an impact if we didn't have big ag farming thousands of cattle, poultry and swine everyday to keep up with demand. It's a fact that large meat farming operations have a more significant impact on the environment, use more resources and land to produce less food than if we were growing food for human consumption. 

blackhawks said:

Then you are replacing the protein source with another food source that was used to feed the animal.  which means farming for humans which takes petroleum, energy, transportation that is refrigerated, etc.  There is no simple 'go vegetarian' way of saving the planet.  Quit procreating is the best way to start.  Same with climate change.....less people.  Why I did not have kids to be honest (and no woman would have me lol!).  jk

I offset my big farm meat eating by growing my own vegetables and hunting and any beef I consume comes from my family’s small ranch.  Anyone that buys vegetables at the store is a shitty person, as those vegetables were most likely grown using environmentally unfriendly practices.  Anyone that drinks beer is a shitty person as drinking beer leads to lot of environment waste due to the manufacturing of glass/aluminum and the grain could be used to feed people in 3rd world countries, right?  The case could be made that anyone purchasing products from anywhere instead of growing them in their backyard are enabling poor manufacturing practices due to demand.  If you smoke cigarettes, buy plastic of any kind, purchase food from the superior market, drive a car, fly in a plane, use electricity, keep lights on an night (light pollution?), you are a shitty person?  Seems like everyone could be made out to be shitty people if you dig hard enough.  

PJPOWER said:

Damn, now you are a shitty person if you eat cereal! Where will it end!?!?
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20180815/roundup-chemical-in-your-cereal-what-to-know?ecd=soc_fb_180816_cons_news_weedkillercereal&linkId=100000003257883

PJPOWER said:

Damn, now you are a shitty person if you eat cereal! Where will it end!?!?
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20180815/roundup-chemical-in-your-cereal-what-to-know?ecd=soc_fb_180816_cons_news_weedkillercereal&linkId=100000003257883

I will NOT be denied my Cap'n Crunch!!!!!!

blackhawks said:

PJPOWER said:

blackhawks said:

Then you are replacing the protein source with another food source that was used to feed the animal.  which means farming for humans which takes petroleum, energy, transportation that is refrigerated, etc.  There is no simple 'go vegetarian' way of saving the planet.  Quit procreating is the best way to start.  Same with climate change.....less people.  Why I did not have kids to be honest (and no woman would have me lol!).  jk

I offset my big farm meat eating by growing my own vegetables and hunting and any beef I consume comes from my family’s small ranch.  Anyone that buys vegetables at the store is a shitty person, as those vegetables were most likely grown using environmentally unfriendly practices.  Anyone that drinks beer is a shitty person as drinking beer leads to lot of environment waste due to the manufacturing of glass/aluminum and the grain could be used to feed people in 3rd world countries, right?  The case could be made that anyone purchasing products from anywhere instead of growing them in their backyard are enabling poor manufacturing practices due to demand.  If you smoke cigarettes, buy plastic of any kind, purchase food from the superior market, drive a car, fly in a plane, use electricity, keep lights on an night (light pollution?), you are a shitty person?  Seems like everyone could be made out to be shitty people if you dig hard enough.  

I am totally with you on factory farming.  I lived rurally a lot of my life growing up in Iowa and I remember when the hog confinements started up.  It was strange and nobody wanted them due to the waste, pollution in ground water/streams, truck traffic.  But greedy farmers would allow them to be placed on their property (of course nowhere near their house but near their neighborhood so they had to deal with the stench).  And to be honest, what kind of life is that for an animal?  At least let them roam for their short life before going to market.  It is animal abuse to me full stop.  It wasn't that way for half of my life at least.  

Completely agree and these farms were trending in my area in the late 90s when people didn’t know how bad they would smell or how bad they were for the environment.  Lately, the biggest culprits have been the dairy and cheese factories.  They move in, drink any wells or aquifers in the area dry, and move out once the resources are gulped up.  If you eat cheese or drink milk, I guess you are a shitty person.