Vegan, Vegetarian, Carnivor, or Omnivore?

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    I am an omnivore.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    I am mostly vegetarian.
    I'm more and  more moving toward vegetarian.  I never eat any seafood or shell fish and avoid large animals meat.  I do occasionally eat poultry and I eat eggs.  My main reason for going more vegetarian is that I realize that a world with 7 plus billion human inhabitants cannot support us as carnivores.  I don't think it's unnatural to eat meat, I just don't see how we can justify doing so.  But I also did not have kids so having not added to the population issue, I allow myself the pleasure of a little poultry and the occasional egg dish. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    I'm more and  more moving toward vegetarian.  I never eat any seafood or shell fish and avoid large animals meat.  I do occasionally eat poultry and I eat eggs.  My main reason for going more vegetarian is that I realize that a world with 7 plus billion human inhabitants cannot support us as carnivores.  I don't think it's unnatural to eat meat, I just don't see how we can justify doing so.  But I also did not have kids so having not added to the population issue, I allow myself the pleasure of a little poultry and the occasional egg dish. 
    Yes to much of this. To my mind, even if people disagree that there are ethical aspects to eating meat, you have to be willfully ignoring a lot of evidence about environmental impact to justify eating beef in particular. 
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    I am mostly vegetarian.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    I really respect vegans. Some of my heroes, the majority of Sea Shepherd crew members, are vegans.  My wife and I eat vegan and vegetarian much of the time.  Telling me I am a shitty person for not being vegan all of the time is not going to make me want to rebel and eat meat more often, so that's not an issue.  What is an issue is that I really do wish people would move toward vegan and vegetarian and you may be pushing some people further from doing that than closer.  Unless you goal is to turn people off to veganism and vegetarianism, please consider a better strategy and please honor my request to not berate others on this thread.  Thanks.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    I am an omnivore.
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.  Meat eaters are not shitty people, though, just because they choose to eat meat.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    I am mostly vegetarian.
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm more and  more moving toward vegetarian.  I never eat any seafood or shell fish and avoid large animals meat.  I do occasionally eat poultry and I eat eggs.  My main reason for going more vegetarian is that I realize that a world with 7 plus billion human inhabitants cannot support us as carnivores.  I don't think it's unnatural to eat meat, I just don't see how we can justify doing so.  But I also did not have kids so having not added to the population issue, I allow myself the pleasure of a little poultry and the occasional egg dish. 
    Yes to much of this. To my mind, even if people disagree that there are ethical aspects to eating meat, you have to be willfully ignoring a lot of evidence about environmental impact to justify eating beef in particular. 
    Agreed.  And pork as well.  Pig farms impact environment in terrible ways and most pork comes from these massively polluting pig farms.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    I am an omnivore.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    I am an omnivore.
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm more and  more moving toward vegetarian.  I never eat any seafood or shell fish and avoid large animals meat.  I do occasionally eat poultry and I eat eggs.  My main reason for going more vegetarian is that I realize that a world with 7 plus billion human inhabitants cannot support us as carnivores.  I don't think it's unnatural to eat meat, I just don't see how we can justify doing so.  But I also did not have kids so having not added to the population issue, I allow myself the pleasure of a little poultry and the occasional egg dish. 
    Yes to much of this. To my mind, even if people disagree that there are ethical aspects to eating meat, you have to be willfully ignoring a lot of evidence about environmental impact to justify eating beef in particular. 
    Agreed.  And pork as well.  Pig farms impact environment in terrible ways and most pork comes from these massively polluting pig farms.
    Serious question, how do you feel about people that raise and eat their own meat (of any kind)?  If a person has their own pig farm of 4 or 5 pigs and eats a couple of them a year, are they really impacting the environment any more negativity than someone using the same space to water a vegetable garden?
    Also, do you believe that farming practices have not impacted the environment in a negative way?  
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.
    Great point!!!!!!!!

    All the recent mass murders were prevented by individuals with their guns they bought for protection.

    Vegas could have been way worse. And Aurora. And Sandy Hook. And...

    I win. Yay!!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited August 2018
    I get my nutrition from the air.
    Did not take long for a food thread to turn a gun, mass murder, we need guns to protect me thread?   ;):o
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    I'm pretty sure we are just goofing around.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I am an omnivore.
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.
    Great point!!!!!!!!

    All the recent mass murders were prevented by individuals with their guns they bought for protection.

    Vegas could have been way worse. And Aurora. And Sandy Hook. And...

    I win. Yay!!
    You are definitely the winner of the “all or nothing” and facetious approach!
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.
    Great point!!!!!!!!

    All the recent mass murders were prevented by individuals with their guns they bought for protection.

    Vegas could have been way worse. And Aurora. And Sandy Hook. And...

    I win. Yay!!
    You are definitely the winner of the “all or nothing” and facetious approach!

    So much winning!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,561
    I am a vegetarian.
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.
    Great point!!!!!!!!

    All the recent mass murders were prevented by individuals with their guns they bought for protection.

    Vegas could have been way worse. And Aurora. And Sandy Hook. And...

    I win. Yay!!
    You are definitely the winner of the “all or nothing” and facetious approach!
    Go eat some hummus.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    I am mostly vegetarian.
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    brianlux said:
    I'm more and  more moving toward vegetarian.  I never eat any seafood or shell fish and avoid large animals meat.  I do occasionally eat poultry and I eat eggs.  My main reason for going more vegetarian is that I realize that a world with 7 plus billion human inhabitants cannot support us as carnivores.  I don't think it's unnatural to eat meat, I just don't see how we can justify doing so.  But I also did not have kids so having not added to the population issue, I allow myself the pleasure of a little poultry and the occasional egg dish. 
    Yes to much of this. To my mind, even if people disagree that there are ethical aspects to eating meat, you have to be willfully ignoring a lot of evidence about environmental impact to justify eating beef in particular. 
    Agreed.  And pork as well.  Pig farms impact environment in terrible ways and most pork comes from these massively polluting pig farms.
    Serious question, how do you feel about people that raise and eat their own meat (of any kind)?  If a person has their own pig farm of 4 or 5 pigs and eats a couple of them a year, are they really impacting the environment any more negativity than someone using the same space to water a vegetable garden?
    Also, do you believe that farming practices have not impacted the environment in a negative way?  
    Sorry, no quick answer, racing off to work.  More later.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I am an omnivore.
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    I'm pretty sure we are just goofing around.
    Yes, we are, I just wanted to give a judgy person a taste of their own medicine.  I do not think Spiritual Chaos is a shitty person (for the record) but if you are going to blankety call people shitty for eating meat, you can expect a meat eater or two to judge your lifestyle choice of being in your mid 30s and living with your parents as well.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I am an omnivore.
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    People who without qualms choose meat in 2018 are shitty people.

    Trying to choose vegan when possible, but most often vegetarian. More shitty than I wish.
    Adults who mooch off their parents when they are perfectly able to live on their own are shitty people and need to grow up, not meat eaters.

    Is this a game? The cheap shot game? Let me try:

    People that enable mass murder by supporting pro gun measures are the shittiest people.
    People who think people are enabling mass murderers  by supporting an individual’s right to protect themselves from mass murderers are shitty people.
    Great point!!!!!!!!

    All the recent mass murders were prevented by individuals with their guns they bought for protection.

    Vegas could have been way worse. And Aurora. And Sandy Hook. And...

    I win. Yay!!
    You are definitely the winner of the “all or nothing” and facetious approach!
    Go eat some hummus.
    I do love me some garlic hummus, but it gives me the farts.  Is methane good for the environment?
  • blackhawks
    blackhawks Posts: 307
    I am an omnivore.
    Am have celiacs (not 'gluten intolerant' like many claim....medically diagnosed20+ years ago) so I am anti grain.  Over the years I don't eat nearly as much meat as I used to.  I don't care if people do or don't.  I am not for imposing beliefs on people unless we are putting a hammer and sickle in our flag all the sudden.  Do what makes you feel the healthiest.  It i your body listen to it.  
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I get my nutrition from the air.
    If you are in your mid 30's living with your parents ... it might be time to move out...
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