GRAND RAPIDS - Ticket Problem Thread

334xxx, 21st row center on the floor

Loved it

gettingright wrote:

It is so great when people on here get so upset when they disagree with someone else. It is so the opposite of what a fan Pearl Jam should be, it isn't even funny...

First, I want to say that I respect your opinion and I think senority in the FC should play some type of role.....however.....

Your logic that time in the FC equals passion does not make sense, in fact many would agrue the exact opposite in that time equals complacency, which is the likely reason for the mixing up of FC seats at the GR show.

Not that I feel I need to explain myself to you but, the reason I didn't join the FC earlier was because all my friends thought I was insane and obsessive about Pearl Jam and in my teenage mind I figured if I could say, "Hey, its not like I joined the fan club," I could retain some sort of...dignity? (I can't think of exactly what I mean)... Believe me, I regret it now, but don't think because you were in the FC before me or anyone else that it somehow makes you some all-mighty fan.

The only difference between old and new FC members is a number. But, I said before that I think senority sould play a role, it just should not be the only factor for determining seating at a show.....everyone should have a chance to get into the first 10 rows.

I can honestly say that all I would ever want is to sit in the first 5 rows one time, after that I don't give a shit where I sit and I would happily give up my tickets to someone else who had never sat that close just so they could have the experience.

I love you and all Pearl Jam fans....remember we all share a special bond....let's all stop being so selfish and start caring about other people.

Great points above....

First of all I think it is cool that this happened, weather it is a mistake or was a decision by the band.. the only people I feel sorry for were the ones who had a low # and this was their only show this tour, which I am sure is a very small minority. Since three other shows were very close, I am sure those "super fans" with the low #'s were not only attending one of those shows. Also if this was a decision by the band, are you surprised? Fighting for the little guy is one of the things most of us love about the band. For the record, and before anyone starts complaining about me.. I am a 184XX number and a highly devoted fan who never realized there was a 10C until 98 or whenever it was that I joined. I will also admit my bias as I would love 1st 5 rows just once in my life then I would also happily live with my normal seats or even worse.

On to the purpose of the thread, I think a cool idea for this type of thing is for the band to take every 2nd show in the same town and do a random dispersion for that show. That way at the 1st show, in lets say Boston, Senority would rule but for that second show.. all the #'s would get tossed into a hat and pulled for first row on back. It would be publicly stated that senority would fly out the window for the second show so everyone would know what they were getting into. Let me know what you all think of that idea.

CJMST3K wrote:

"Tickets are allocated by seniority within the fan club. The longer you have been in the club, the closer your seats are to the stage. Proximity to the stage is also contingent upon how many members are in attendance at a show."

so, those who are cool with this change... you're saying it's OK for the band to alter their Terms and Conditions at will - following a non-refundable sale, and when the purchaser does not obtain the tickets until just hours before the show? This would be (unless a mishap) 100% illegal.

Wow... I hope when you people have a wedding or something, you rent a nice banquet room that is far away from home, and when you arrive, they put you in the basement, and they tell you "some people would be very thankful for this basement".

I have NO problem if they want to put members 25xxx in the rafters, and 300xxx on Eddies lap - no problem at all... but not for the tickets already sold. The tickets already sold fall within THEIR OWN terms and conditions.

COMPLETELY AGREE!! I for one do not mind the "newbies" sitting closer even though I have a decent 10C number (169xxx). However, the 10C DOES state that tickets are based on seniority. We have no clue where they will be until we get there. If they are going to do something like this in the future, they should atleast alert people of their seat location, not leave it a mystery, and piss off everyone with very low 10C numbers. They expect to be close, as well they should be. For as many rules as the 10C has for us, they broke a BIG one that they have for themselves...

all4

There seems to be alot of pissed off people in this thread!!!

Let me just say that if I would have been the guy in farthest back upper corner behind a pillar, I would have been happy just to have been there for this show!

meme wrote:

334xxx, 21st row center on the floor

Loved it

if thats with the switch, man i'd hate your # regularly

all4PearlJam wrote:

COMPLETELY AGREE!! I for one do not mind the "newbies" sitting closer even though I have a decent 10C number (169xxx). However, the 10C DOES state that tickets are based on seniority. We have no clue where they will be until we get there. If they are going to do something like this in the future, they should atleast alert people of their seat location, not leave it a mystery, and piss off everyone with very low 10C numbers. They expect to be close, as well they should be. For as many rules as the 10C has for us, they broke a BIG one that they have for themselves...

all4

Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but they've reserved the rights to make changes to any policy without notice and you're only remedy is to QUIT THE CLUB... I doubt any of the long time members will...

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I hope that this becomes a trend at certain shows. The crowd was brilliant! I probably ended up a row or two back of where I would have been (218XXX), but it was great for those who got close. I hope my # move to the coveted rows at some point!!!!

A Faceless Man wrote:

It's kinda funny that when a 10C member with a higher number complains about their seats, the lower numbered fans tell them "Be glad you got those tickets. If you don't like them, then cancel your membership."

Yet, when the rare time the lower numbers get seated back, they feel like they have a right to complain.

Well that's really hypocritical.

Yeah, kind of like its funny when people w/ higher numbers complain about the people with lower numbers' complaining about what seats they get. Seems both side's biggest argument always seems to be 'doesn't matter where you sit, at least you're in the building'.

Its all hypocritical. Just stop complaining already and sit where you're told to sit. (Sit or stand. Or jump around. Or just nod your head. Or sing along. Or don't sing along.) Whatever you want. It's all good.

man - the ticket thing

it's obvious

the guys got bored on their day off - snooped through Tim's tickle trunk and found the tickets

decided to play a little ticket poker - Matt raising Stone a front row with a side stage, throw in a 10th row for a Mike side

then they realized "SHIT" we've got to put these things back in the envelopes

OOPS!!

why do you think they played such a rockin' ass show - GUILT

I have an idea that I think would work. Someone may have already posted something similar, so excuse me if that is the case.

They should do it by seniority like they always do, except that for every show, they should take a very small number of the "local" tickets and put them in the front -- sort of like winning the lottery. That way, you don't piss anyone off -- the long-time people get their seniority, people with high numbers have the chance (albeit small) of winning the lottery and getting kick ass seats, and everyone is happy. Plus it wouldn' be difficult to take, say, 5 pairs of tickets and do this.