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Indifference
Indifference Posts: 2,779
edited May 2006 in Given To Fly (live)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-pearl18.html

Didn't see it posted - if it was sorry for the dupe.

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  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,954
    Indifference wrote:
    http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-pearl18.html

    Didn't see it posted - if it was sorry for the dupe.
    jim derogatis is a piece of human garbage......

    years back Ed blew this guy off for an interview.....

    ever since this guy has done nothing but write shitty reviews whenever pearl jam performs here.....

    fuck him!!!!!!!!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • stevieraveon
    stevieraveon Posts: 413
    I've always hated that fat piece of garbage Jim Deragotis. He was just probably pissed that he couldn't get any more nachos when the concessions stands closed.

    "Pearl Jam simply shouldn't be allowed to play slower than 140 beats per minutes." Are you kidding me?
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  • NY PJ1
    NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    thats it,, i dont want to go to any shows now

    given to fly is boring ?? this dude is high on something
  • IamMine
    IamMine Posts: 2,743
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    jim derogatis is a piece of human garbage......

    years back Ed blew this guy off for an interview.....

    ever since this guy has done nothing but write shitty reviews whenever pearl jam performs here.....

    fuck him!!!!!!!!

    lol yeah... :rolleyes:

    Well, at least he left his email address open....

    Politely tell him how wrong he is. :D

    Well, some get it, some don't.... their losses.
    JA: Why do I get the Ticketmaster question?
    EV: It's your band.
    ~Q Magazine


    "Kisses for the glow...kisses for the lease." - BDRII
  • jjmofo
    jjmofo Posts: 47
    Did that fuckhead just call LowLight and Given to Fly boring???? I want his head on a platter!!!!
  • smartass1235
    smartass1235 Posts: 136
    jjmofo wrote:
    Did that fuckhead just call LowLight and Given to Fly boring???? I want his head on a platter!!!!

    dude i could see lowlight but given to fly and corduroy? that guy knows nothing about music. If you look at the tittle next to his name at the beginning of the article you will see it says "pop music critic" and not "rock music critic". someone tell that fat wad he should go to the jessica simpson concert and write a review about something he has knowledge about
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  • Steve Dunne
    Steve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    Jim - Pearl Jam is NOT FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I love to turn you on
  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    jadakid wrote:
    ...Um, that Release tune sure is hard-hitting. Makes me wanna stage dive or slam in the mosh pit....

    :D:D:D

    (10)
  • dthomas
    dthomas Posts: 99
    As a former music journalist (I now cover cars because guys like Deragotis exist) and while I don't cover PJ cause I'm a fan, my critic's ear can easily say that the band is in top form from anything in the past. I think last time he complained they didn't play enough old stuff. Well they did last night so he couldn't complain about that.

    And to be fair the 2003 United Center show was the worst show I can remember.

    But he's wrong in so many ways and I like how he copies the Grateful Dead angle from Entertainment weekly. Hard working that Deragotis.

    Also the review seats are really horrid at the UC for sound and view.

    The BIGGEST fault is that they are as close to their mid 90s power then ever. I honestly think sound wise they werent' this powerful since 94. Cameron is killing on the kit, finally.

    And the big problem with Dero is that he's writing for himself and not his readers. When I had to cover Brittney Spears you write from a pop perspective even if you don't like the music personally. He's coming from a biased place and it shows. It's ok Dero. More people will buy the bootleg from Night 1 then your entire catalogue from the crappy "punk" band you're in. And that pisses him off.
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  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    I realise music is subjective, but I get angry when someone calls songs like Corduroy, Low Light and GTF 'plain and boring'.

    Idiot. Seriously, what an idiot.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • justam
    justam Posts: 21,415
    What a jerk!! :p
    :D
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  • dthomas
    dthomas Posts: 99
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/reviews/critics/chi-0605180019may18,1,20754.story?coll=chi-ent_critics-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

    Kot was a bit nicer
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  • John Budge
    John Budge Posts: 259
    Did anyone email this assclown yet?
  • edved84
    edved84 Posts: 59
    I'm emailing him now and telling him to fuck off
  • gtbrown77
    gtbrown77 Posts: 143
    Not really sure why I read this review. Jim Derogotis never has anything nice to say about anybody. He just comes across as a bitter music elitist who will only give praise to something if it's cool to like them cuz they fit that whole indie vibe. And he bashes everything else. Maybe he does it because people will read it and get angry and then will continue to read what he has to say cuz it generates conversation and interest in his column, even if nobody agrees with what he has to say.
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
    -John Lennon
  • Stryker
    Stryker Upstate, NY Posts: 585
    Argh, shit like that pisses me off so much. Clearly just talking out of his ass. Low Light boring? I would give parts of my body to hear that song live. Opinions and such, I guess.

    <___<
  • Nakedeye66
    Nakedeye66 Posts: 94
    jadakid wrote:
    " .... Things started fast and furious on Wednesday, with the group unleashing a flurry of roundhouse blows via the hard-hitting openers "Release," "World Wide Suicide," "Life Wasted," "Severed Hand" and "Comatose," ....


    Um, that Release tune sure is hard-hitting. Makes me wanna stage dive or slam in the mosh pit.

    I've been in this city for the better part of 40 years and never seen DeRogatis accurately review anything. He is to music what Jay Mariotti is to sports ... both remind me of the South Park episode where everyone craps out their mouth.

    And jadakid accurately points out Derogatis's idiocy in referring to Release as part of a "hard-hitting ... flurry".

    He's a media blowhard who, like Mariotti, seems as if he just echoes what he reads elsewhere instead of actually knowing a damn thing about music (and in Mariotti's case, sports). And it is true that he rips on Pearl Jam every time they come here. I think he ripped on the '95 Soldier Field show also, which he now "praises" in retrospect.

    And in no way do I defend him, but the United Center is about the worst place to evaluate any band. It's a terrible venue, and the '03 show with Ed sick certainly was one of their more lackluster. And although these shows were very strong by the standard of the first half-dozen of the tour, we all know the band gets better as the tour goes on. Having said that, his review is as idiotic as everything else he writes. I often wonder how guys like that keep their job despite churning out writing that a half-aware 12 year old could run circles around.
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    I sent a message to this guy:
    Subject: You're terrible

    You, Jim, are clearly a narrow-minded idiot. Proof: http://www.suntimes.com/output/derogatis/cst-ftr-pearl18.html

    If you want to make a mix tape of YOUR favourite songs and slap that in your tape deck and play the same 6 songs over and over, be my guest. But across two shows in one city, don't expect the band to do the same. I understand you're a critic so this is how you put food on the table, but you're really bad. Your comment about the guitarists being self-indulgent? Reminds me of a bad columnist who would use the word "lugubrious" in his article that's otherwise written at a grade 4 level.

    Anyways, it looks as though the band is having fun and the fans are having fun, so why don't you sit back, put on some headphones and listen to the new album. Your only comment about the new songs was that they have a pulse. Listen to them and you'll discover they also have a message, and they deliver it quite well...unlike your sloppy brand of trash journalism.

    Oh, and as for the band maintaining their 90s pace, maybe you should grow up and realize this isn't the 90s anymore. They'll play at the pace they want, and if people don't like it, you won't see their shows selling out anymore. The band knows their audience and they play to them. You're a journalist but do you know your audience? Fans, such as myself, will think you're out to lunch. Non-Fans won't really care. MTV-aholics probably don't read your paper. And general rock enthusiasts...well, they KNOW Pearl Jam rocks hard every night, and they understand the slower beat songs, where you apparently don't. So who's left?




    Derrick Farwell
    dfarwell@rogers.com
  • voodoopug
    voodoopug Posts: 1,011
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    jim derogatis is a piece of human garbage......

    years back Ed blew this guy off for an interview.....

    ever since this guy has done nothing but write shitty reviews whenever pearl jam performs here.....

    fuck him!!!!!!!!

    The stones did the same thing to him in 1994 and ever since then, he trashes every album/show of theirs too, simply for spite, many times without even seeing the show itself. If he writes anything negative about a band...assume the show was fantastic. He is a poor journalist.

    I seen him in the mens room at the United Center on Tuesday and thanked him by telling him that "without his reviews, hundreds of birdcages would go without something to catch the bird shit"
    There's Pearl Jam, The Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Robert Johnson......and then everybody else.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I enjoy Jim's work ... It is seriously pretty funny. I swear he's just doing this because his self-esteem has been eroded by too much hate mail.

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