Kratom. ?

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Anybody ever use this stuff? I am interested in finding out more about it. Is the stuff in headshops or gnc the real deal? Anything i need to know befofe using it? Thanks.

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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    Reading up on it on Wikipedia, I'd say maybe avoid it or at the very least, proceed with caution:

    Adverse effects

    At relatively low doses (1–5 g of raw leaves), at which there are mostly stimulant effects, side effects include contracted pupils and blushing; adverse effects related to stimulation include anxiety and agitation, and opioid-related effects like itching, nausea, loss of appetite, and increased urination begin to appear.[3][9]

    At moderate (5 to 15 g of raw leaves) doses and higher, at which opioid effects generally appear, additional adverse effects include tachycardia (increased stimulant effect) as well as the opioid side effects of constipation, dizziness, hypotension, dry mouth, and sweating.[9][11]

    Frequent use of high doses of kratom may cause tremors, anorexia, weight loss, seizures, and psychosis.[9] If frequent users try to stop using kratom, they may experience withdrawal symptoms including irritability, feelings of distress, nausea, hypertension, insomnia, a runny nose, muscle and joint pain, and diarrhea.

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  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    Yeah, I'll probably pass on this. I would try maybe one small dose, but I'll just a stick with the herb.The history of the plant and usage is interesting though.
    I just recently had a great experience with an edible marijuana. I've only had a few experiences with marijuana edibles before and never really cared for it, but wow did I enjoy this last one. It was a 50mg, whatever that means, cake pop. It was awsome.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    Hi! said:
    Yeah, I'll probably pass on this. I would try maybe one small dose, but I'll just a stick with the herb.The history of the plant and usage is interesting though.
    I just recently had a great experience with an edible marijuana. I've only had a few experiences with marijuana edibles before and never really cared for it, but wow did I enjoy this last one. It was a 50mg, whatever that means, cake pop. It was awsome.
    I've had weirdly mixed experiences with edibles ranging form euphoria to being extremely sick with vomiting and dizziness.  That latter experience has shied me away from edibles which is too bad because I think they are healthier than smoking.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Hi!
    Hi! Posts: 3,095
    brianlux said:
    I've had weirdly mixed experiences with edibles ranging form euphoria to being extremely sick with vomiting and dizziness.  That latter experience has shied me away from edibles which is too bad because I think they are healthier than smoking.
    That has kind of been my experience as well and why I always shyed away from them. I am not educated in it enough but I'm guessing it has to do with the amount of mg and wether it's indica or sativa. ?? Im glad I found one I like. Hopefully results will be the same next time. I'll probably eat 75mg of the same kind next time.

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    Oh, how times have changed.  I knew this guy back in my college days who took a commercial flight back to NYC.  I asked him how the flight went and he said, "It was great.  I smoked a joint in the bathroom after the 'fasten seat belts' sign went off.  It was the best flight I've even been on!"   Well, hey, that was also back in the day when smoking was allowed in the back of the plane.  No shit.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    Oh, how times have changed.  I knew this guy back in my college days who took a commercial flight back to NYC.  I asked him how the flight went and he said, "It was great.  I smoked a joint in the bathroom after the 'fasten seat belts' sign went off.  It was the best flight I've even been on!"   Well, hey, that was also back in the day when smoking was allowed in the back of the plane.  No shit.
    its even better now with vape pens.  you can smoke in any seat.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431

    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    it's the only way
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    Oh, how times have changed.  I knew this guy back in my college days who took a commercial flight back to NYC.  I asked him how the flight went and he said, "It was great.  I smoked a joint in the bathroom after the 'fasten seat belts' sign went off.  It was the best flight I've even been on!"   Well, hey, that was also back in the day when smoking was allowed in the back of the plane.  No shit.
    its even better now with vape pens.  you can smoke in any seat.
    A vape pen will get past security?  Cool, if so, but I'd be surprised!  And if so, I'd still use it in the head just because I wouldn't want somebody freaking out and yelling at me!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    vaggar99 said:

    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    it's the only way
    Sure! Worked out great for you, right? 
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    brianlux said:
    oftenreading said:
    vaggar99 said:
    i tried it a little over a year ago on a trip to Indiana.  a friend had some capsules of it that he made from the powder.  I took 4 pills before going to the airport.  I ended up getting extremely disoriented and lost my wallet somewhere in the terminal.  i barely made my flight...maybe be careful with it.
    Maybe immediately prior to going to the airport is not the best time to experiment with new substances..... ;). 
    Oh, how times have changed.  I knew this guy back in my college days who took a commercial flight back to NYC.  I asked him how the flight went and he said, "It was great.  I smoked a joint in the bathroom after the 'fasten seat belts' sign went off.  It was the best flight I've even been on!"   Well, hey, that was also back in the day when smoking was allowed in the back of the plane.  No shit.
    its even better now with vape pens.  you can smoke in any seat.
    A vape pen will get past security?  Cool, if so, but I'd be surprised!  And if so, I'd still use it in the head just because I wouldn't want somebody freaking out and yelling at me!
    they've gotten by security on dozens of flights over the last 4 years or so.  and i wouldn't use it in the can...the smoke detectors can be set off by the vapors.  your seat is actually the safest place.  use a jacket or blanket to slowly exhale into...
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    ^ lol.  That’s dedication right there.
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited July 2018
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    ^ lol.  That’s dedication right there.
    i do that rarely.  most flights i take are 3 hours or less, so vaping in the airport bathroom works fine...but on the occasional long haul....well, its sort of the best thing ever..
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,669
    vaggar99 said:
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    ^ lol.  That’s dedication right there.
    i do that rarely.  most flights i take are 3 hours or less, so vaping in the airport bathroom works fine...but on the occasional long haul....well, its sort of the best thing ever..
    Wow- awesome!  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Was reading online today and this article headline caught my eye

    https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/psychoactive-herb-kratom-on-radar-of-b-c-doctors-and-poison-control-centre

    A bit of info in there for you about local experiences
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I thought airlines banned vaping??

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    So vaping on flights is banned ... one question ... whats the matter with you?  I suspect if your ever caught you risk being charged and possibly banned from flying... Is the reward worth the risk?
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Meltdown99 said:
    So vaping on flights is banned ... one question ... whats the matter with you?  I suspect if your ever caught you risk being charged and possibly banned from flying... Is the reward worth the risk?
    i don't know. something is definitely the matter with me though

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