What's your feeling about the two-party system in the US or other countries with a two party system?

brianlux · July 2018

Pick one and let's see where this goes. And maybe tell us why you made your choice.

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

Should I add another choice called "No Comment"?

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

Ah! We have some votes. But so far, no comments.

I went with "I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits". I don't think that has a chance of being put into practice, but why not put it out there? I think it would be great. Don't give us your tired party line rhetoric, tell us what you are going to do to help lead and make your world or country or state or province or city or town a better place. I'm all for this idea.

unsung · July 2018

Is there a crush your opponent party?

I'm for candidates that want to reduce the role of govt in people's lives.

cincybearcat · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

I made my choice because I hate both of the current parties but and feel that more competition and split govt would eventually end in more compromise (after a tough transition period).

I do like the idea of parties with ties in some aspects as it would be too hard to govern with no one agreeing on a platform.

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

unsung said:

Is there a crush your opponent party?

I'm for candidates that want to reduce the role of govt in people's lives.

"Is there a crush your opponent party?"

Isn't that what every party wants- to crush their opponent?

"I'm for candidates that want to reduce the role of govt in people's lives."

But wait, how can you have both candidates and no government?

flywallyfly · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

I like the idea of several parties so that no single party has a majority. This way they are forced to work with the others to get anything passed which means (in theory) that nothing extremely radical will be passed unless it benefits all.

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

flywallyfly said:

I like the idea of several parties so that no single party has a majority. This way they are forced to work with the others to get anything passed which means (in theory) that nothing extremely radical will be passed unless it benefits all.

I thought about the multi-party choice a lot as well. Definitely has some merits. "Benefits all"-- I like the sound of that. Thanks for chiming in here.

Thoughts_Arrive · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

Same old crap here too. Both the Liberals and Labor often let Aussies down.
We have minor parties but they will never get elected.

Pap · July 2018

I'm totally against any party system (please expain this alternative)

If we're discussing parliamentary democracy, then pluralism and polyvocality are prerequisites (3rd option). However, because Greece has a pretty much two-party system (totally corrupted as all of them are), I'd like to see how a self-governed society based on voluntary institutions (i.e., anarchism) would work out.

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Same old crap here too. Both the Liberals and Labor often let Aussies down.
We have minor parties but they will never get elected.

We get a few from other parties or independents that win, but a very small minority.

brianlux · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

Pap said:

If we're discussing parliamentary democracy, then pluralism and polyvocality are prerequisites (3rd option). However, because Greece has a pretty much two-party system (totally corrupted as all of them are), I'd like to see how a self-governed society based on voluntary institutions (i.e., anarchism) would work out.

Interesting thought, Pap! Has there been a society bold enough to attempt something like that? None that I can think of.

lastexitlondon · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

I'm horrible at politics and I never understand what each side is meant to represent. The lines are too blurred. I think if each candidate ran independently then we chose I would have more of a clue . It seems all smoke and mirrors to me.

Meltdown99 · July 2018

Other (please explain)

I am in favour of more direct democracy.

Meltdown99 · July 2018

Other (please explain)

cincybearcat said:

I made my choice because I hate both of the current parties but and feel that more competition and split govt would eventually end in more compromise (after a tough transition period).

I do like the idea of parties with ties in some aspects as it would be too hard to govern with no one agreeing on a platform.

We have 4 parties federally ... only 2 parties run the country into the ground ...

Meltdown99 · July 2018

Other (please explain)

flywallyfly said:

I like the idea of several parties so that no single party has a majority. This way they are forced to work with the others to get anything passed which means (in theory) that nothing extremely radical will be passed unless it benefits all.

The only way I am in favour of minority governments is if there was a fixed election date. In Canada, we get minority governments from time to time, but often leads to unnecessary early elections because a no confidence vote has taken place. Remove the no confidence vote and force them to co-operate for the entire 4 term, then that would be fine...

Meltdown99 · July 2018

Other (please explain)

lastexitlondon said:

I'm horrible at politics and I never understand what each side is meant to represent. The lines are too blurred. I think if each candidate ran independently then we chose I would have more of a clue . It seems all smoke and mirrors to me.

Even if they ran independently they would form voting blocks. That's what municipal is like.

cincybearcat · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

I made my choice because I hate both of the current parties but and feel that more competition and split govt would eventually end in more compromise (after a tough transition period).

I do like the idea of parties with ties in some aspects as it would be too hard to govern with no one agreeing on a platform.

We have 4 parties federally ... only 2 parties run the country into the ground ...

Can you name an elected official from a party other than the Dems and Repub at the federal level?

PJWGIII · July 2018

I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits.

Fuck Republicans. Fuck Democrats. Love America. Be Independent.

PJ_Soul · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

brianlux said:

Ah! We have some votes. But so far, no comments.

I went with "I would like to see every candidate run strictly on his or her own merits". I don't think that has a chance of being put into practice, but why not put it out there? I think it would be great. Don't give us your tired party line rhetoric, tell us what you are going to do to help lead and make your world or country or state or province or city or town a better place. I'm all for this idea.

It simply wouldn't work, so I'm simply not sure I see any point in putting it out there. I think that politics kind of require actual groups of people who all operate with a shared understanding of what their platform is so that they can all work together towards common goals. Otherwise it would likely just be chaos for each candidate and their cohorts. It would also be chaos within parliament or whatever government system you had in mind. How would a zero party system operate specifically?? Just a bunch of individuals all voicing their individual opinions and ideas? I would imagine that debates and votes about any bill would last forever if they did that. Government would essentially grind to a halt.

jeffbr · July 2018

I'm against the strictly two-party system and would like to see a balanced four or more-party system.

brianlux said:

flywallyfly said:

I like the idea of several parties so that no single party has a majority. This way they are forced to work with the others to get anything passed which means (in theory) that nothing extremely radical will be passed unless it benefits all.

I thought about the multi-party choice a lot as well. Definitely has some merits. "Benefits all"-- I like the sound of that. Thanks for chiming in here.

I'm also in favor of a system in which multiple parties represent voters. A parliamentary system with proportional representation. It accomplishes a few things - 1) the forming of coalitions - since no party will likely have a straight majority it requires parties to work together and form coalitions; 2) keeps parties in check - if a party gets too out of touch they won't be able to form coalitions and will fade to a footnote; 3) allows people to feel like their vote actually matters - people can better shape government by voting their conscience or a platform they can back rather than holding their nose and picking the least detestable of their two choices. Right now we are often forced to choose between a turd burger and a shit sandwich. I'd rather pick something tastier; 4) more candidates and more choices equates to a better chance that we could have candidates who are not beholden to particular special interests or party machinations. The smaller parties with the innovative ideas can come in, take votes, and have an influence via coalition, on the shaping of a larger party's agenda.

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