Justice Kennedy Retiring

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    edited July 2018
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,048
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    edited July 2018
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,078
    He could of retired at any point but to retire before the upcoming midterms is fishy I don’t trust him at all ...
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If the trimester get a second term, he might get to appoint another SCOTUS...
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,030
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    Not to mention if you bought a house 20 years ago you likely paid a small fraction of what it is worth today. See it all the time, family lives on a home for 20 years, sell it and upgrade to what they couldn’t have afforded otherwisr
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,048
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    how about $200,000 in credit card debt?  that is just crazy.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjhawks said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    how about $200,000 in credit card debt?  that is just crazy.

    Hey, I'm not arguing in favour of it, and that much credit card debt seems crazy to me, too. It's just that the house price seems fairly routine to me. 
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  • PJPOWER
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    pjhawks said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.

    I live in an expensive part of the world. You can't really buy a house for less than a million. Nothing about that scenario seems unusual to me, though maybe it should. People with lower income than that are somehow purchasing houses. 
    how about $200,000 in credit card debt?  that is just crazy.
    The debtor is slave to the lender.  I cannot fathom having that kind of credit card debt.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,712
    $200K does seem high but there is a game that can be played with credit card balances.  If you have a lot of available credit, credit card companies constantly offer 0% interest (sometimes there is a 1-3% fee...but still better than home equity line interest) so it is possible that he is playing a timing game where he pays off his home equity line (likely at a higher rate) with these credit card offers.  Then, as the offers expire, he pays off the credit card debt with home equity line funds.

    So....it might just be home equity line debt parked on lower interest credit cards
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    edited July 2018
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that house price/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Lets be honest as well.  Vancouver is not a real good comparison of what most people pay for homes in areas...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    edited July 2018
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Lets be honest as well.  Vancouver is not a real good comparison of what most people pay for homes in areas...
    No, but that's really not the point. My point is that the home price vs the household salary isn't "fishy". It doesn't matter which market they're in. And I'm not really clear on what market we're talking about, but if we're talking DC, then it's definitely not fishy, as the housing market there is just as brutal as it is in Vancouver.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,498
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Wow. I guess I'm a little behind the times then. Where I live, 1.2 million is a mansion or 100's of acres of land with a modest home and out buildings. I didn't like paying 200k for our house because of the payments. My wife and I often wonder how everyone affords the 500k plus houses, but then again only I work full time and for the state at that.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Wow. I guess I'm a little behind the times then. Where I live, 1.2 million is a mansion or 100's of acres of land with a modest home and out buildings. I didn't like paying 200k for our house because of the payments. My wife and I often wonder how everyone affords the 500k plus houses, but then again only I work full time and for the state at that.
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Wow. I guess I'm a little behind the times then. Where I live, 1.2 million is a mansion or 100's of acres of land with a modest home and out buildings. I didn't like paying 200k for our house because of the payments. My wife and I often wonder how everyone affords the 500k plus houses, but then again only I work full time and for the state at that.
    Oh, god, I would love to have a housing option of only $500,000. And $200,000 seems like some quaint little historical fact. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,899
    edited July 2018
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    oftenreading said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    tbergs said:
    I read that the other day. It was all on Washington Nationals season tickets. He paid it all off, but it was strange and seemed really dumb of him. Sounds like an addiction issue if you can pile up that much debt buying season and playoff tickets. He does have the lowest assets of any justice. Way less than Gorsuch had coming in.
    yes lots of Nats tickets.   They have a $1.2 million dollar home and combined they made around $300,000 a year. seems like they are living close to the edge.  
    Hey though, what could go wrong with a financially unstable judge prone to debt. I'm sure he can't be bought.

    Yeah, the home value really threw me off when I saw the income amounts. Didn't make sense. Also read some of the debt was related to home improvement costs.
    What about the home value vs income throws you off?
    Maybe it shouldn't have. I guess a home that costs 4x your annual income is pretty normal these days. Just not how I'd ever want to be financially strained. I guess they could have put down a large down payment so probably just poor speculation on my part.
    ? A $1.2 million home is the average price of a home, including condos, where I live, and almost nobody has a household income anywhere remotely near $300,000. I see nothing at all odd about that salary/income factoid. Actually, I'm surprised they have a home that ONLY cost $1.2M.
    Wow. I guess I'm a little behind the times then. Where I live, 1.2 million is a mansion or 100's of acres of land with a modest home and out buildings. I didn't like paying 200k for our house because of the payments. My wife and I often wonder how everyone affords the 500k plus houses, but then again only I work full time and for the state at that.
    Oh, god, I would love to have a housing option of only $500,000. And $200,000 seems like some quaint little historical fact. 
    Right?!? Even when that "history" hails from maybe 2001, lol. Hell, owning property of any kind is completely out of the question for me and many, many others. I don't even consider it a possibility. My thoughts are focused solely on the rental market, which is also totally insane, but at least I don't need to save $150,000+ just for a down payment on a condo, because there isn't a chance in hell that I'd ever be able to achieve such a feat!
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    We should all be more concerned with his testimony before Congress during his confirmation hearings in 2006 as it appears that some of his testimony may have been misleading. Does anyone here really think Tesm Trump Treason properly vetted their Supreme Court nominee?
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