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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    edited July 2018
    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past
    I fully understand the history both have with the band. But, it still isn't fair to all the other artist, IMO. 
  • Popmartijn
    Popmartijn Posts: 383
    EM194007 said:
    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past
    I fully understand the history both have with the band. But, it still isn't fair to all the other artist, IMO. 
    It isn't about fairness, it's about price. Ames and Klausen apparently are more expensive to get a poster from. They command a higher price. And apparently Pearl Jam is OK with that, willing to pay them more to design a poster. The other artists also could've demanded more posters for their APs. Maybe Pearl Jam would've paid them more, maybe they would've chosen a different designer then. It's the basic rules of supply and demand.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    Popmartijn said:
    EM194007 said:
    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past
    I fully understand the history both have with the band. But, it still isn't fair to all the other artist, IMO. 
    It isn't about fairness, it's about price. Ames and Klausen apparently are more expensive to get a poster from. They command a higher price. And apparently Pearl Jam is OK with that, willing to pay them more to design a poster. The other artists also could've demanded more posters for their APs. Maybe Pearl Jam would've paid them more, maybe they would've chosen a different designer then. It's the basic rules of supply and demand.
    Source for this info?
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  • Popmartijn
    Popmartijn Posts: 383
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Popmartijn said:
    EM194007 said:
    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past
    I fully understand the history both have with the band. But, it still isn't fair to all the other artist, IMO. 
    It isn't about fairness, it's about price. Ames and Klausen apparently are more expensive to get a poster from. They command a higher price. And apparently Pearl Jam is OK with that, willing to pay them more to design a poster. The other artists also could've demanded more posters for their APs. Maybe Pearl Jam would've paid them more, maybe they would've chosen a different designer then. It's the basic rules of supply and demand.
    Source for this info?
    My deduction as other artists get 100 APs and Ames and Klausen apparently 200. Earlier in this thread Brad Klausen himself indicated that that's how they (the artists) get paid. They get a number of posters to sell in their own shop. So if you get (demand) more APs then you can sell more, thus make more money. 
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Artists are not commissioned for their work?
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,628
    edited July 2018
    Paid throuh AP’s. No way it has anything to do with demand letting him sell 200. Just his relationship with the band nore than likely. Same reason they let Ames have variants.

    I do agree that isn’t fair to other artists though
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  • EM194007
    EM194007 Posts: 2,827
    Hobbes said:
    Artists are not commissioned for their work?

    bradklausen said:



    As for artist copies, that is how the artist gets paid by the merchandise company. Each artist only gets x amount as payment. So the artist copies will always be limited. 





  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Right. I read that post from Brad. I didn't properly convey the tone in my post. I am shocked that the artists are not commissioned for their work initially and then given an allotment of APs to sell for extra income. Brad even mentioned that if a poster does not sell, then he is stuck with extra inventory. This too means he is not paid for his work. Doesn't seem right.
  • droptheleash9
    droptheleash9 Posts: 1,468
    For what it's worth, I believe Brad has also mentioned that relative to other bands, Pearl Jam takes care of its poster artists
  • hihobibo
    hihobibo Tampa, FL Posts: 1,148
    Popmartijn said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Popmartijn said:
    EM194007 said:
    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past

    Source for this info?
    My deduction as other artists get 100 APs and Ames and Klausen apparently 200. Earlier in this thread Brad Klausen himself indicated that that's how they (the artists) get paid. They get a number of posters to sell in their own shop. So if you get (demand) more APs then you can sell more, thus make more money. 
    I think I remember reading that too (why he and Ames are under different rules) from him on this forum. Maybe in the thread regarding EV solo tour posters last year? 
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,100
    drakeheuer14 said:
    Paid throuh AP’s. No way it has anything to do with demand letting him sell 200. Just his relationship with the band nore than likely. Same reason they let Ames have variants.

    I do agree that isn’t fair to other artists though
    Of course they aren't all sold for same price.

    Brad is selling 200 Madrid's at $65.00 each = $13,000.00
    Krakow was 100 at $140.00 each = $14,000.00
    The $140 included postage so its less than 14K to the artist, but I doubt any of these guys are feeling slighted by the band if they can make at a minimum $6,500.00 for a single gig poster (assuming it sells all 100 APs)
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,322
    One hour to go! :) 
  • RW8297
    RW8297 Posts: 1,619
    demetrios said:
    One hour to go! :) 
    I guess this time should be easy. Do you think they will sell out?
  • canuck79
    canuck79 Posts: 128
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  • bradklausen
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    elwayvedder said:
    EM194007 said:
    I love that Brad K is going to have 200 AP's available. But, how is it fair that him and Ames get double the amount of AP's, then the rest of the artist? As well as Ames doing a variant, while others can't. IMO, all artist should be able to produce the same amount of AP's. Would have been nice to see 200 AP's from all artist. Oh well, good luck to all going after a Brad K AP later.
    I think they are "grandfathered" in with permission from the band.  read that somewhere in year's past
    this. 

    Ames used to do entire tours, now they get two dates. And if it were not for Ames, I am not sure any of us would be as interested in these things. Pearl Jam would have done posters at some point like most bands, but I truly believe it was the creativity and style of the Ames Bros, and the fact they did entire tour legs, that established the majority of our interest in pj posters.  So for me personally, I never have a problem if Ames gets variants or more posters to sell and other artists do not... not only did they establish the scene, and set the bar really high, but they went from doing whole tours to just being one artist on the roster and only getting two dates. Myself I used to get 3 or 4 dates a leg... so I think to make up for losing dates, we get a little extra. 

    and yes, PJ takes very good care of poster artists... just look at the wrigley / fenway shows, that was the best compensation for artists I have ever seen in all my years doing this. No other band is that generous. 

    and yes if you do not sell your posters you do not get paid, that is the risk you take, so you better do a good job!... you can ask to get paid a flat rate, or roll the dice and sell posters on your own for x amount of dollars and make a bit more then you would with the flat rate 
  • camsjam
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    Just tried to check my login was working and the site seems to be locked. Will have to wait 52 mins. I think
  • jpdannabelle
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    canuck79 said:
    Is anyone having problems logging on to http://www.artillerydesign.com/ ?
    Yes me too. Not sure what’s going on. 
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  • drakeheuer14
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    He shuts the site down. Will have to login anyways at drop time
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  • canuck79
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    drakeheuer14 said:
    He shuts the site down. Will have to login anyways at drop time
    Thanks.  Is that typical for him before his drops?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    canuck79 said:
    drakeheuer14 said:
    He shuts the site down. Will have to login anyways at drop time
    Thanks.  Is that typical for him before his drops?
    Ha said so in this very thread.
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