Every day is Earth Day. Let's talk about ways to make it better.

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Smellyman said:
    So many great ideas here.  I love this guy.  It's a long video, but his home is amazing too if you make it that far.


    Kirsten Dirksen's videos are all pretty dang good.

    Great stuff!!  Yeah, that house is excellent!  I wish I were that handy with building things! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Conversation heard in my bank today:

    "Hello Mr. [name], how are you today?"

    "Living with the heat!"

    "Haha, yes, it is rather warm today."

    "Yeah, and PG&E sent me a notice saying 'Please reduce you air-conditioning use tomorrow between 2 and 6 PM'.  You think I'M going to lower my A/C use tomorrow?  HA! No way!"

    "Haha, no Mr. [name]."

    At which point, still keeping my eyes on the deposit slip I was filling out, I interjected, "Beats having a black-out."

    That man will blast his A/C tomorrow and then be the first to complain when the power goes out.

    But, yes, this thread is about solutions.  So when the weather gets hot (as it already is here in the Sierra Foothills, instead of blasting the A/C, take off some clothes.  In fact, when possible, run around butt naked and sing along with your favorite Pearl Jam record.  You'll feel better and save energy at the same time!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Less People....a lot less.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Less People....a lot less.
    Might I suggest "fewer"?  :wink:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Less People....a lot less.
    Might I suggest "fewer"?  :wink:
    Yes, and that would work.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    brianlux said:
    Less People....a lot less.
    Might I suggest "fewer"?  :wink:
    Yes, and that would work.  
    Which, fewer people or less clothing/fewer clothes during hot weather?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I think fewer clothes may lead to more people 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    I think fewer clothes may lead to more people 
    Yyyyyyyeah... but it depends on the age group.  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Here's an interesting little thing I just learned.  It's late June and in this part of California, we are already very near the 100 Fahrenheit mark (that's about 37.8 Celsius  for those of you who live in the rational parts of the world using the metric system.)  So I'm sitting here thinking, "I could sure use a cold drink.  I went to the fridge, popped the ice out of one of the ice cube trays, threw some in a glass and poured myself some lemonade.  And then I got to thinking (goddamn it, why am I always thinking?),  I got to wondering how much harm my having ice was doing to the planet.  So I looked it up and found that, though yes, it is doing a tiny bit of harm, it could be worse.  Turns out that if I had a fridge with an automatic ice maker I would be doing more harm than using ice cube trays the way we do.

    I ran across this article and the first thing it say is, "Want to save the Earth? Easy, just buy a couple of ice trays."  And then it explains why this is better than using automatic ice cube makers.  Very interesting!


    Want to save the Earth? Easy, just buy a couple of ice trays. To the long list of human inventions that are wrecking global climate—the internal combustion engine, the industrial era factory—add the automatic ice maker.

    Climate modelers have long known that households are far bigger contributors to global warming than most laypeople realize. For all the blame tailpipe emissions take for escalating  temperatures, homes and office buildings are actually the single largest contributor to greenhouse gasses. One key reason is the 100-plus million refrigerators in America’s 111 million households. According to the Department of Energy, the standard fridge sucks up about 8% of the electricity used by all homes—a pretty big share given the dozens of big and small appliances and electronics that are also drawing juice.

    That energy gluttony has always made refrigerators prime targets for design improvements and most of the big manufacturers have made real progress in squeezing every last bit of efficiency out of their machines—especially since they know that cash-strapped consumers are paying closer attention than ever to energy-consumption ratings before making their purchasing decisions. The problem is, those ratings are not always terribly precise. In general, refrigerators will simply get a gross energy-use score, without anyone examining just which components in the overall machine are driving the numbers up or down. Ice makers have thus long gotten a pass, but analysts at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) recently decided to give them a closer look—and they got a surprise when they did.

    According to the just-released findings, the average ice maker in the average fridge increases energy consumption by 12% to  20%—a whole lot of juice for an appliance that is in operation 24 hours a day from the moment you first plug it in till the moment you replace it a decade or more later. The reason that number was so unexpected was that the large majority of refrigerators are  refrigerator-freezer combinations anyway—which means they’re freezing water and making ice no matter what. So why should the simple business of automating the process be so energetically expensive?

    The answer, it turns out, is the tiny motor inside the freezing system that’s used to release the bits of ice  from the mold and dump them into a tray. A motor that is designed to operate in so cold a setting needs an internal heater to keep it from freezing up, and heating elements require a lot of power—in this case, roughly three fourths of the total additional energy the ice maker uses.

    Certainly, on the list of big things that are responsible for global warming, the icemaker ranks a good ways behind the coal-fired power plant, but averting climate catastrophe is often a game played in increments and inches, and every kilowatt hour helps. NIST is thus urging refrigerator manufacturers to look closely at the design of their icemakers, insisting that there are “substantial opportunities for efficiency improvements merely by optimizing the operations of the heaters.”

    That appeal to reason, NIST officials hope, will be enough. But just in case it isn’t, the Department of Energy has announced that it intends to add 84 kilowatt hours to the efficiency rating of every refrigerator equipped with an icemaker. Consumers will feel that fact in the wallet—and if manufacturers don’t scramble to improve their numbers, they soon will too.



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Why the FUCK do people still litter.  That is my biggest pet peeve.  Even if you don't recycle at least put your litter in a proper garbage.  In the landfill is better than the waterways.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    I know this subject mainly relates to Japan and their use of nuclear energy, but I hope it is also seen as a plea to do our part to care for our oceans.

    That subject was brought back to my attention, yet again, in a rather shocking way today when a customer came in asking for a book, Galileo's Daughter, and we got to talking about this and that and the other thing.  Amid the conversation, the fellow mentioned that he is a zoologist as well as a sea diver.  We were talking about a mutual favorite stretch of the California coastline and he told us that he thinks that area will see a decline in population in the coming years.  I asked why and he said because the abalone season has been cancelled this year and that abalone is a big part of that area's economy.  He went into some fairly technical details about coastal marine ecosystems and problems with massive kelp die-off and mollusk starvation.  He did some diving not too long ago to see what the abalone populations looked like and he said he found several that were attached to rocks (which is what they do) but that they were dead and only attached by non-living membranes.  He told us he believes these serious breeches to the balance of these ecosystems are likely due to heavy metals and other toxins that have made their way across the ocean  from Japan since the breakdown of the nuclear power plants that was a result of the 2014 earthquake and tsunami.

    This is some heavy shit.  Once again, this illustrates how serious the situation with our oceans is.  All life stems from the ocean.  If the oceans die... etc.  I know I focus a lot on this kind of thing and perhaps it gets old and for that I apologize, but I still believe if we are aware of these things, share that information, and do our part, we can reduce these harmful impacts on the planet.  It only makes sense to do that.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Smellyman said:
    vaggar99 said:
    grow some food and share it with your friends.
    I don't get some things in life.  We know homes can grow food, produce their own power now, collect their own water etc.  But very few do it.  In bizarro land a certain POTUS will make it more difficult for you to do so.

    This should be celebrated and darn near mandatory

    it's one of the cheapest and most rewarding hobbies a person can take on.  and yes, if even half the people living in suburban neighborhoods like me farmed, the world would be much different.  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,731
    edited July 2018
    Pruitt just resigned because of all the questions about his ethics (another great choice that Trump made! He sure loves ethically compromised people!). I would say that this is good news for the EPA and the environment, but I can't, because the deputy chief who will step in at least for now is a fucking coal lobbyist. And if Trump chooses someone else as a permanent chief, I have total confidence in Trump's ability to make the worst choice imaginable so that his anti-environment goals can continue to be met. :disappointed:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2018/07/05/embattled-epa-chief-scott-pruitt-resigns/?utm_term=.1b2dd080564e&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1

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    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,993
    ^ I'll do what I want here... Irresponsibly... :wink:
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    A local mall

    Devonshire Mall's new food court opens, $70M makeover continues

    https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/devonshire-malls-new-food-court-opens-70m-makeover-continues

    From The Article...

    There are no garbage cans in the food court. Customers can leave garbage on the tables or take their tray to one of two recycling stations where workers sort garbage into recyclables and organic waste. Savard said the food court has a 92 per cent diversion rate to keep more garbage out of the landfill.

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    A local mall

    Devonshire Mall's new food court opens, $70M makeover continues

    https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/devonshire-malls-new-food-court-opens-70m-makeover-continues

    From The Article...

    There are no garbage cans in the food court. Customers can leave garbage on the tables or take their tray to one of two recycling stations where workers sort garbage into recyclables and organic waste. Savard said the food court has a 92 per cent diversion rate to keep more garbage out of the landfill.

    Totally cool! 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    One thing we could do is get somebody FAR better to replace Pruitt.

    Adios, dude.


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Wow, I didn’t realize this was such an issue?  Maybe if people just stopped over consuming paper and plastics...?  I pay a company to pick up my recycling, but I guess I should start composting a lot more cardboard and paper!  

    https://www.sciencealert.com/the-us-has-nowhere-to-put-its-recycling
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    PJPOWER said:
    Wow, I didn’t realize this was such an issue?  Maybe if people just stopped over consuming paper and plastics...?  I pay a company to pick up my recycling, but I guess I should start composting a lot more cardboard and paper!  

    https://www.sciencealert.com/the-us-has-nowhere-to-put-its-recycling
    Recycling is great and we recycle as much as possible but it's obviously not the #1 solution.  But the real solutions are not feasible in a world with growing populations, more parts of the world motivated to moving into  the first world (who can blame them?), and the facet of capitalism that thrives on planned obsolescence- manufacturing that  produces cheap goods that break down quickly rather than durable goods. The more urgent solutions to the problem include lowering population growth, having first world people accept and heed the need to live more simply, and producing durable goods.  I hate to sound pessimistic, but I don't see those things happening any time soon.  We will have to adapt to the harsh changes we bring on ourselves as a species. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni