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5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.0 -
Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
We should separate them from society and ensure they do not procreate. Ain't nobody got time for that.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:
His base loves this as do most of those who voted for him. You see it in this thread.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Smellyman said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Law enforcement becoming sub human down there. Sickening what they are doing.What step is this now.Leader dehumanizing a people, State News helping with propaganda, getting your base to agree and now law enforcement to blindly follow orders.
Unbelievable. It truly is.
Trade wars, constant lies, and moronic tweets are one thing, but the treatment of these people and his developing friendships with Russia and North Korea are on a whole other level.
I don't blame him- he is what he always has been: a morally bankrupt f**king parasite. The blame for this sad chapter for the US lies squarely on his supporters who empowered him. If you're a fool that voted for this guy... you got what you asked for so bask in your glory.
Things aren't changing with him. They actually seem to be escalating.
There's been a few around here who have sheepishly admitted to their error and have seen the light.
If a person can correct their error, I'm okay with them. As the old saying goes: There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
how about the people that say they didn't vote for him, but now say they are impressed by him so far?
seems a bit harsh to treat our friend McGruff that way, but hey, you said it, not me0 -
Well, not completely. There's been some minimizing and talk of what else can be done, but I also meant on a whole. How long can this admin push this issue all for some grandstanding and to get Stephen Miller's VIP pass to hell stamped.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
I believe they were also compared to bank robbers in this thread.... and that 1/3 have been reunited with their families.... and they were allowed to watch the world cup, as if it makes it ok just because they aren't being water boarded or sold into sexual slavery0
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Almost everyone says it's wrong, but a few here echo Trump and say, what else are you gonna do? And the dems were just as bad.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.
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I m sitting in traffic on a bus with sixty 8th graders. I am totally separated from society right now lol.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
We should separate them from society and ensure they do not procreate. Ain't nobody got time for that.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:
His base loves this as do most of those who voted for him. You see it in this thread.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Smellyman said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Law enforcement becoming sub human down there. Sickening what they are doing.What step is this now.Leader dehumanizing a people, State News helping with propaganda, getting your base to agree and now law enforcement to blindly follow orders.
Unbelievable. It truly is.
Trade wars, constant lies, and moronic tweets are one thing, but the treatment of these people and his developing friendships with Russia and North Korea are on a whole other level.
I don't blame him- he is what he always has been: a morally bankrupt f**king parasite. The blame for this sad chapter for the US lies squarely on his supporters who empowered him. If you're a fool that voted for this guy... you got what you asked for so bask in your glory.
Things aren't changing with him. They actually seem to be escalating.
There's been a few around here who have sheepishly admitted to their error and have seen the light.
If a person can correct their error, I'm okay with them. As the old saying goes: There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
how about the people that say they didn't vote for him, but now say they are impressed by him so far?
seems a bit harsh to treat our friend McGruff that way, but hey, you said it, not me
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I'm going to throw something out there.dignin said:
Almost everyone says it's wrong, but a few here echo Trump and say, what else are you gonna do? And the dems were just as bad.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.
The people flooding the borders now are from war torn and drug war areas. Do we as a nation go over there and meddle with these countries problems? The countries apparently are having a hard time controlling the violence there.0 -
oftenreading said:Don't worry, everyone - it's just like summer camp, or maybe a nice boarding school.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/laura-ingraham-immigrant-summer-camp_us_5b28b769e4b0f0b9e9a4840c
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Simple solution, don't let them cross. No separation required.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Simplier solution, don't try to cross and you won't have consequences to deal with.0
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I don't know that there's an answer to that question where we don't completely get ourselves in to another middle east type situation. I don't think military action is the route to take, but I think we would need to explore humanitarian efforts and build up our relationship with those in power who aren't corrupt or working for the cartels. Often times, the US has just started financing one side with weapons and guerrilla warfare, which I don't think has ever worked out for anyone. Let's ask newly anointed NRA president Ollie North what we could do in central america.tempo_n_groove said:
I'm going to throw something out there.dignin said:
Almost everyone says it's wrong, but a few here echo Trump and say, what else are you gonna do? And the dems were just as bad.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.
The people flooding the borders now are from war torn and drug war areas. Do we as a nation go over there and meddle with these countries problems? The countries apparently are having a hard time controlling the violence there.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
You also had some very fine people on both sides? Okay. Sure. I guess?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
At the very least ostracize them and publicly shame them for having different opinions! No one’s allowed to think differently than me! Sesame Street was right on with “one of these things is not like the other. One of these things does not belong!”Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
We should separate them from society and ensure they do not procreate. Ain't nobody got time for that.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:
His base loves this as do most of those who voted for him. You see it in this thread.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Smellyman said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Law enforcement becoming sub human down there. Sickening what they are doing.What step is this now.Leader dehumanizing a people, State News helping with propaganda, getting your base to agree and now law enforcement to blindly follow orders.
Unbelievable. It truly is.
Trade wars, constant lies, and moronic tweets are one thing, but the treatment of these people and his developing friendships with Russia and North Korea are on a whole other level.
I don't blame him- he is what he always has been: a morally bankrupt f**king parasite. The blame for this sad chapter for the US lies squarely on his supporters who empowered him. If you're a fool that voted for this guy... you got what you asked for so bask in your glory.
Things aren't changing with him. They actually seem to be escalating.
There's been a few around here who have sheepishly admitted to their error and have seen the light.
If a person can correct their error, I'm okay with them. As the old saying goes: There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
how about the people that say they didn't vote for him, but now say they are impressed by him so far?
By the way... I was just clowning around with my original comment. Of course Trumpsters can procreate- I'm a fan of biodiversity.
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tempo_n_groove said:
I'm going to throw something out there.dignin said:
Almost everyone says it's wrong, but a few here echo Trump and say, what else are you gonna do? And the dems were just as bad.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.
The people flooding the borders now are from war torn and drug war areas. Do we as a nation go over there and meddle with these countries problems? The countries apparently are having a hard time controlling the violence there.No.Legalize, decriminalize drugs and it become a non issue.0 -
I would jump and roll at the first traffic light lolmcgruff10 said:
I m sitting in traffic on a bus with sixty 8th graders. I am totally separated from society right now lol.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
We should separate them from society and ensure they do not procreate. Ain't nobody got time for that.my2hands said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Halifax2TheMax said:
His base loves this as do most of those who voted for him. You see it in this thread.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Smellyman said:Thirty Bills Unpaid said:Law enforcement becoming sub human down there. Sickening what they are doing.What step is this now.Leader dehumanizing a people, State News helping with propaganda, getting your base to agree and now law enforcement to blindly follow orders.
Unbelievable. It truly is.
Trade wars, constant lies, and moronic tweets are one thing, but the treatment of these people and his developing friendships with Russia and North Korea are on a whole other level.
I don't blame him- he is what he always has been: a morally bankrupt f**king parasite. The blame for this sad chapter for the US lies squarely on his supporters who empowered him. If you're a fool that voted for this guy... you got what you asked for so bask in your glory.
Things aren't changing with him. They actually seem to be escalating.
There's been a few around here who have sheepishly admitted to their error and have seen the light.
If a person can correct their error, I'm okay with them. As the old saying goes: There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
how about the people that say they didn't vote for him, but now say they are impressed by him so far?
seems a bit harsh to treat our friend McGruff that way, but hey, you said it, not me0 -
More and more states are deregulating marijuana now so that's a start. Considering how messed up our country is on opiates I'm not so sure anymore about the legalization of cocaine and heroin though.Smellyman said:tempo_n_groove said:
I'm going to throw something out there.dignin said:
Almost everyone says it's wrong, but a few here echo Trump and say, what else are you gonna do? And the dems were just as bad.tempo_n_groove said:
5 pages I've read on this and haven't read about one single person defending it yet?tbergs said:Why is anyone defending this? You're selling yourself a bag of shit.
I think everyone here is in agreement that this is wrong.
The people flooding the borders now are from war torn and drug war areas. Do we as a nation go over there and meddle with these countries problems? The countries apparently are having a hard time controlling the violence there.No.Legalize, decriminalize drugs and it become a non issue.0 -
I can't comprehend the fucked-up-ness of this conversation, that when you hear the line "my government is abusing human beings", you'd rather pivot the discussion to what kind of abuse, the level of the abuse, and who is being abused. Why, in the year 2018, in a supposedly developed nation, with supposed moral outrage over countries lacking human rights, are we having the discussion over what subset of abuse is legitimate? Why is there any answer other than "no fucking way am I okay with abuse" that is morally permissible?mace1229 said:
Experts say they are being emotionally harmed. I have yet to see a single report of physical abuse.dignin said:
You keep missing the point that others make when making that comparison.mace1229 said:
No one has said that. Why does everyone insist on misquoting those that disagree with you?dignin said:Don't worry guys, this is like going to a scary movie. The kids will get over it.
Plus, the toddlers can watch the world Cup. Who needs a mom and dad when you have that? How bad could it be?
What I did say is how bad of a comparison this is to Jewish children in concentration camps.
i have a problem separating these kids when they are not united within a few hours.
i also have a problem comparing this to Nazi concentration camps and saying this is just the first step towards Nazi Germany.
Tell the story like it is, talk about how inhumane it is, how scared the kids are. But don’t compare it to the murder of 6 million people and the harsh labor camps of millions more.
You also say that none of these kids are being physically harmed, experts in child development say they are.
You also seem to have more of a problem with people equating this to Nazi's then you do with the actual act of separating children from their parents.
"I don’t like them being separated either.
But it is even more ridiculous to compare it to the haulocost and all the absolutely horrible things that happened."
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Nobody is being abused.0
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Because it’s their own fault since they’re just criminals, right? I think that sums up your position.unsung said:Nobody is being abused.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
the argument could be made as well that psychological harm's wounds never heal.benjs said:
I can't comprehend the fucked-up-ness of this conversation, that when you hear the line "my government is abusing human beings", you'd rather pivot the discussion to what kind of abuse, the level of the abuse, and who is being abused. Why, in the year 2018, in a supposedly developed nation, with supposed moral outrage over countries lacking human rights, are we having the discussion over what subset of abuse is legitimate? Why is there any answer other than "no fucking way am I okay with abuse" that is morally permissible?mace1229 said:
Experts say they are being emotionally harmed. I have yet to see a single report of physical abuse.dignin said:
You keep missing the point that others make when making that comparison.mace1229 said:
No one has said that. Why does everyone insist on misquoting those that disagree with you?dignin said:Don't worry guys, this is like going to a scary movie. The kids will get over it.
Plus, the toddlers can watch the world Cup. Who needs a mom and dad when you have that? How bad could it be?
What I did say is how bad of a comparison this is to Jewish children in concentration camps.
i have a problem separating these kids when they are not united within a few hours.
i also have a problem comparing this to Nazi concentration camps and saying this is just the first step towards Nazi Germany.
Tell the story like it is, talk about how inhumane it is, how scared the kids are. But don’t compare it to the murder of 6 million people and the harsh labor camps of millions more.
You also say that none of these kids are being physically harmed, experts in child development say they are.
You also seem to have more of a problem with people equating this to Nazi's then you do with the actual act of separating children from their parents.
"I don’t like them being separated either.
But it is even more ridiculous to compare it to the haulocost and all the absolutely horrible things that happened."
im not okay with emotional abuse, but there is a difference and I was talking about one and you’re referring to the other.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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