America's Gun Violence

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

Exactly, it's such a dumb feel good law.  I'll just buy new mags for the range.  

Just mark the old ones as 458 SOCOM mags, lol. 

Will do! lol

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

You only support laws when they conveniently line with your opinion.

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

dignin said:

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJPOWER said:

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mcgruff10 said:

mickeyrat said:

stuckinline said:

When will this shit end?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html

this seems to be a gunfight over stupid shit.

not that the festival was a target.

That's what i figured.  
I am sure the shooter went through all the proper background checks, fingerprinted, got a referral from his boss and had a current firearms id card.

Scruffy are you being sarcastic?

But of course (although that is what you actually have to go through in nj to get a firearm).  He was a known gang member who just got out of jail for homicide; legally he can't even own a firearm.

I’d be willing to bet that gun laws weren’t even on the gangsta’s radar. 

Yeah I believe he had an extended mag which are illegal in the people's republic of new jersey.
PJpower you'll love this: nj just changed their tight gun laws yet again to 10 rounds max.  So I know have to either forfeit all my 15 round mags or pay to get them blocked.  I hate this state.

I’m sure all residents are good little law abiding citizens like you and will comply with those magazine laws.  How are the authorities going to even know who is complying and who is not?  I’m guessing they are not going door to door checking everything everyone owns...I bet it makes someone feel good, though.  Gotta pander to the gun control crowd’s feelings now and then when not actually doing anything to make a difference.   

That is why I am a big proponent of H-Bombs for all.  If criminals can get their hands on them, we might as well make them legal then.  Same with bank robberies.  Criminals do them so let's just make it legal for all.  Give me your address and I'm going to steal your TV and valuables since that is currently illegal, but in your world there is no need for laws if people just break them.

No, I understand the need for laws, just not ones that absolutely cannot be enforced.
Also not a fan of laws that essentially turn someone into a criminal for possession of something they purchased legally.  Thanks again captain exaggeration.

Here's a quick pro tip, when someone commits a crime with a banned weapon or accessory they will probably have added charges and jail time. Does that make you feel better?

I have zero problem with that.  I do have a problem that these new laws have effectively made hundreds of thousands of gun owners criminals after they were purchased legally. 

Exactly!  I know we were joking about I earlier, but what about calibers that use the same mags (.458 socom and .223)?  If it were labeled a .458 SOCOM mag, would it be legal since it can only hold 10 rounds of that caliber?  There are so many loopholes...but if it makes people feel good, then I guess it is a good law.