Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss

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  • moemoe6434
    moemoe6434 Posts: 468
    I don’t mind shorter sets.... IF they bring opening bands back.  
    "If she don't love me no more, i know her sister will" Jimi Hendrix
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,406
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    What don't you like about the song? Lyrics? The riffs? Predictable jam?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,920
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    What don't you like about the song? Lyrics? The riffs? Predictable jam?
    Eddie swinging on a specially prepped light like he's Paul Stanley or Beyonce perheps.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Yeah, Porch is terrible.

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,406
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    What don't you like about the song? Lyrics? The riffs? Predictable jam?
    Eddie swinging on a specially prepped light like he's Paul Stanley or Beyonce perheps.


    Yeah that was pretty bad in 2013.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    So dangerous!!!
    I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
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  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    Won't matter in the room.
    Exactly. I recall, for example, Eddie killing (in a good way) "Do The Evolution" during the Buffalo 2013 show. When I listened to the bootleg  few months later, Eddie really did kill it - but in a bad way.

    In the end, however, it doesn't really matter how it sounds on the bootleg. Live shows are for people who are there. The bootlegs are a special bonus.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,233
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ALL I KNOW IS THAT PJ SHOULD END THEIR SHOWS WITH EVENFLOW.

    It's a win-win for "fans" and average concert goer.
    for about the last 10 years I've thought Even Flow being moved to the encore would breathe a new life into the song.  i'd agree would love it more towards the end. 
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,560
    pjhawks said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ALL I KNOW IS THAT PJ SHOULD END THEIR SHOWS WITH EVENFLOW.

    It's a win-win for "fans" and average concert goer.
    for about the last 10 years I've thought Even Flow being moved to the encore would breathe a new life into the song.  i'd agree would love it more towards the end. 
    Swap Porch and Evenflow. That would be a perfect switch. While they're at it, swap RVM and Alive, remove RITFW from almost every show (make 1:5 ratio), use a No Code song as the pre-closing song (rotating Smile, In My Tree, RM or PT), incorporate Parting Ways, All or None and Immortality in to a revolving closer role with YL (all can be extended and jammed out to end the show) and lastly, play more Lost Dogs tracks!
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,406
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ALL I KNOW IS THAT PJ SHOULD END THEIR SHOWS WITH EVENFLOW.

    It's a win-win for "fans" and average concert goer.
    for about the last 10 years I've thought Even Flow being moved to the encore would breathe a new life into the song.  i'd agree would love it more towards the end. 
    Swap Porch and Evenflow. That would be a perfect switch. While they're at it, swap RVM and Alive, remove RITFW from almost every show (make 1:5 ratio), use a No Code song as the pre-closing song (rotating Smile, In My Tree, RM or PT), incorporate Parting Ways, All or None and Immortality in to a revolving closer role with YL (all can be extended and jammed out to end the show) and lastly, play more Lost Dogs tracks!
    I like it. 
    I like it a lot. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • InBetweenIsMne
    InBetweenIsMne Posts: 430
    edited June 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    tbergs said:
    pjhawks said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    ALL I KNOW IS THAT PJ SHOULD END THEIR SHOWS WITH EVENFLOW.

    It's a win-win for "fans" and average concert goer.
    for about the last 10 years I've thought Even Flow being moved to the encore would breathe a new life into the song.  i'd agree would love it more towards the end. 
    Swap Porch and Evenflow. That would be a perfect switch. While they're at it, swap RVM and Alive, remove RITFW from almost every show (make 1:5 ratio), use a No Code song as the pre-closing song (rotating Smile, In My Tree, RM or PT), incorporate Parting Ways, All or None and Immortality in to a revolving closer role with YL (all can be extended and jammed out to end the show) and lastly, play more Lost Dogs tracks!
    Yes and more yes! This is good stuff here, I’d be all for it!
  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,642
    Maybe this is the answer as to why?
    Pittsburgh 2013
    Cincinnati 2014
    Greenville 2016
    (Raleigh 2016)
    Columbia 2016
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,337
    edited June 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    What don't you like about the song? Lyrics? The riffs? Predictable jam?
    Eddie swinging on a specially prepped light like he's Paul Stanley or Beyonce perheps.


    Yeah that was pretty bad in 2013.
    It really was. Almost painful, definitely embarrassing.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 2,008
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    Won't matter in the room.
    Exactly. I recall, for example, Eddie killing (in a good way) "Do The Evolution" during the Buffalo 2013 show. When I listened to the bootleg  few months later, Eddie really did kill it - but in a bad way.

    In the end, however, it doesn't really matter how it sounds on the bootleg. Live shows are for people who are there. The bootlegs are a special bonus.
    I always wondered if Eddie was under the weather at the Buffalo 2013.  During "Evolution" it sounded like he was trying to catch his breath.  That has always been my opinion. 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    D-Rod said:
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    Won't matter in the room.
    Exactly. I recall, for example, Eddie killing (in a good way) "Do The Evolution" during the Buffalo 2013 show. When I listened to the bootleg  few months later, Eddie really did kill it - but in a bad way.

    In the end, however, it doesn't really matter how it sounds on the bootleg. Live shows are for people who are there. The bootlegs are a special bonus.
    I always wondered if Eddie was under the weather at the Buffalo 2013.  During "Evolution" it sounded like he was trying to catch his breath.  That has always been my opinion. 
    If he was he was sick twice in a very short time. He was fine Worcester 1 and sick Worcester 2. Buffalo was right before Worcester I believe. 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 2,008
    PJNB said:
    D-Rod said:
    rummy said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    Won't matter in the room.
    Exactly. I recall, for example, Eddie killing (in a good way) "Do The Evolution" during the Buffalo 2013 show. When I listened to the bootleg  few months later, Eddie really did kill it - but in a bad way.

    In the end, however, it doesn't really matter how it sounds on the bootleg. Live shows are for people who are there. The bootlegs are a special bonus.
    I always wondered if Eddie was under the weather at the Buffalo 2013.  During "Evolution" it sounded like he was trying to catch his breath.  That has always been my opinion. 
    If he was he was sick twice in a very short time. He was fine Worcester 1 and sick Worcester 2. Buffalo was right before Worcester I believe. 
    that is correct. They went Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Worcester 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • ruggs1996
    ruggs1996 Posts: 586
    We have been spoiled and I want to keep being spoiled.
    Camden 2 (2008) 
    Philly 1 and 4 (2009)
    Newark (2010)
    MSG 1 (2010)
    Toronto 1 and 2 (2011)
    Brooklyn 1 and 2 (2013)
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    Greenville (2016)
    Columbia (2016)
    MSG 2 (2016)
    Fenway 2 (2016)
    EV NJPAC (2022)
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    Denver (2022)
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,503
    I’m reading a lot of “get rid of RITFW” in recent posts. I’ll gladly take Rockin’ over that bullshit Yellow Ledbetter any day!

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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,349
    Kearn5y said:
    my2hands said:
    I love watching PJ fans lie to themselves and argue for shorter shows, they know they are full of shit lol
    Probably very true
    Nah, I think 2.25 hours is a perfect amount of time for the average show, but maybe because that is when I mentally check out when the last 6 songs are all greatest hits.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,349

    I think long songs played every night (RVM, Porch, Better Man, Alive, Black) wear on people's nerves that go to a lot of shows or listen to a lot of boots.   Better Man is like 3 minutes of boredom to get to the end which is awesome (SIFL tag). 

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