Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    Let's be honest, it kills the momentum for people who have seen pearl jam one too many times.  I am also guilty of the same thing for songs like alive.  People are singing their asses off and going nuts and I'm secretly wishing for immortality lol.  

    Hell yeah! And for momentum killers look no further then Just Breathe/Last Kiss/Sirens. Way overplayed for the type of song that they are. Bring on All or None, Fatal, Parting Ways and on and on instead. Also Porch as a momentum killer is a crazy comment imo. Ya it is played every show but it ends a set with a quiet period after anyways. It is not like it is thrown in the middle of a show like Evenflow is and Porch does a great job of ending sets imo. 
  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,113
    my2hands said:
    I love watching PJ fans lie to themselves and argue for shorter shows, they know they are full of shit lol
    Probably very true
    Kearnsy
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,408
    mcgruff10 said:
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    WTF? Less Porch?
  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    stuckinline said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    WTF? Less Porch?
    Yes. Way less porch.
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    You never really had to begin with.


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  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    Let's be honest, it kills the momentum for people who have seen pearl jam one too many times.  I am also guilty of the same thing for songs like alive.  People are singing their asses off and going nuts and I'm secretly wishing for immortality lol.  

    I've never been that big a fan of porch. Also big momentum killers and songs I've never really liked Black and Sirens. 
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • Massara133
    Massara133 Stettler AB Canada Posts: 431
    2 Hours 20 minutes is plenty of time for an amazing show and better than most bands, but i’m Not gonna lie, I’d prefer a 3 hour show. The biggest sadness I have over a shorter show is the songs that don’t make the setlist. Shorter set doesn’t mean we miss Given to Fly, or Do the Evolution, or Evenflow, Small Town etc. Shorter set means less chance of hearing Tremor Christ, Push me pull me, All those Yesterdays etc. Some seriously deep cuts that occasionally came out in the last few tours. Having said that I’ll still happily take whatever they give me, cause I know they’ll be giving it their everything and that’s all we can really hope for.
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  • aurelgugus
    aurelgugus France & Luxembourg Posts: 499
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    Let's be honest, it kills the momentum for people who have seen pearl jam one too many times.  I am also guilty of the same thing for songs like alive.  People are singing their asses off and going nuts and I'm secretly wishing for immortality lol.  

    Hell yeah! And for momentum killers look no further then Just Breathe/Last Kiss/Sirens. Way overplayed for the type of song that they are. Bring on All or None, Fatal, Parting Ways and on and on instead. Also Porch as a momentum killer is a crazy comment imo. Ya it is played every show but it ends a set with a quiet period after anyways. It is not like it is thrown in the middle of a show like Evenflow is and Porch does a great job of ending sets imo. 
    Fully agree. 
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    I was at AMS 2.  I am not a scoreboard watcher and honestly did not notice it, until I got in here.

    It was a great fucking show. 
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,143
    mcgruff10 said:
    There can't be that many shows where they have played more than 3 hours. Maybe two dozen?
    My memory is that they’ve been playing 3 hoursnin select cities for a very long time.
    living in San Diego for a long time I remember getting 30+ songs at a little over 3 hours for a long time. So I think there’s more than 2 dozen.
  • MEK42
    MEK42 Posts: 116
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    NONSENSE
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 3,003
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 

    People have been saying that for years and he still sounds great.  No, he doesn't sound the same as when he was 27 but his voice still rocks even if he can't hit all the notes all of the time like years past.  Plus, there will be a month of rest between the shows in Europe and the home shows.  Nothing to worry about.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,657
    my2hands said:
    I love watching PJ fans lie to themselves and argue for shorter shows, they know they are full of shit lol
    Absolutely. You took the words right out of my mouth. 
  • Ray J. T.
    Ray J. T. Posts: 4,144
    my2hands said:
    I love watching PJ fans lie to themselves and argue for shorter shows, they know they are full of shit lol
    Facts! 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 

    There is absolutely nothing to worry about. Live shows are not the same as albums, not even the same as listening to boots. There will be missed notes and fuck ups and forgotten lyrics and rough bits and it will all be absolutely awesome. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,503
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    It’s not as bad as some make it out to be, but he definitely struggles with certain lyrics here and there. Oftenreading hit the nail on the head. You’ll highly enjoy the shows, don’t worry about a few strained notes.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,919
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    Let's be honest, it kills the momentum for people who have seen pearl jam one too many times.  I am also guilty of the same thing for songs like alive.  People are singing their asses off and going nuts and I'm secretly wishing for immortality lol.  

    Hell yeah! And for momentum killers look no further then Just Breathe/Last Kiss/Sirens. Way overplayed for the type of song that they are. Bring on All or None, Fatal, Parting Ways and on and on instead. Also Porch as a momentum killer is a crazy comment imo. Ya it is played every show but it ends a set with a quiet period after anyways. It is not like it is thrown in the middle of a show like Evenflow is and Porch does a great job of ending sets imo. 
    You just mentioned three of their biggest hits though. 

    Tough songs to cut. 

    Sirens is still fresh for me, wouldn't have a problem hearing it again :)
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    northerndragon said:
    mcgruff10 said: moo
    LukinAtU said:
    Less Porch
    Said no one ever.  
    I'll say it. Oh wait, I have many times. Porch is over done and kills the momentum.
    Let's be honest, it kills the momentum for people who have seen pearl jam one too many times.  I am also guilty of the same thing for songs like alive.  People are singing their asses off and going nuts and I'm secretly wishing for immortality lol.  

    Hell yeah! And for momentum killers look no further then Just Breathe/Last Kiss/Sirens. Way overplayed for the type of song that they are. Bring on All or None, Fatal, Parting Ways and on and on instead. Also Porch as a momentum killer is a crazy comment imo. Ya it is played every show but it ends a set with a quiet period after anyways. It is not like it is thrown in the middle of a show like Evenflow is and Porch does a great job of ending sets imo. 
    You just mentioned three of their biggest hits though. 

    Tough songs to cut. 

    Sirens is still fresh for me, wouldn't have a problem hearing it again :)
    They have their place in the set for sure and their popularity is not in question but the amount of times these are played is the issue I have and the fact that they really are love or hate songs. I am not knocking people that like those songs it just feels like the life gets sucked out of the room when I hear them. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,919
    ALL I KNOW IS THAT PJ SHOULD END THEIR SHOWS WITH EVENFLOW.

    It's a win-win for "fans" and average concert goer.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,919
    MEK42 said:
    I'm seeing PJ for the FIRST TIME in Seattle (both shows) and I'm unbelievably excited but I keep hearing stuff about Ed's voice not being as good and it's really worrying me :( 
    Won't matter in the room.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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