***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Mandy Does Mueller? 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,627
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
    The movie? 
    With Linda Lovelace or the remake?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/banks-wigmore-russian-ambassador-meetings/index.html

    See? Connecting dots is fun fun fun boys and girls. 6 hour lunches to discuss grandchildren? And you guys were worried about Billy Boy talking to Loretta Lynch on the tarmac?

    And has anyone else seen the pattern emerge of the accusations against Hillary during the campaign were things or similar things that Team Trump Treason was actually doing? Anyone?
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,085
    "THE FIELD"
    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.


    The difference Dems play by the rules and Rs don't...they cheat, lie, do anything to sway public opinion and get elected

    If no direct collusion indictments appear by Nov and D's lose both houses, the investigation is done.

    From politico yesterday...

    Months of sustained conservative attacks led by President Donald Trump and his allies have harmed Mueller most among Republicans, with a record 53 percent now saying they view the lead Russia investigator in an unfavorable light. That’s a 26-point spikesince July, when the poll first started asking voters whether they viewed Mueller favorably or unfavorably.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,627
    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.


    The difference Dems play by the rules and Rs don't...they cheat, lie, do anything to sway public opinion and get elected

    If no direct collusion indictments appear by Nov and D's lose both houses, the investigation is done.

    From politico yesterday...

    Months of sustained conservative attacks led by President Donald Trump and his allies have harmed Mueller most among Republicans, with a record 53 percent now saying they view the lead Russia investigator in an unfavorable light. That’s a 26-point spikesince July, when the poll first started asking voters whether they viewed Mueller favorably or unfavorably.
    Team Mueller is not trying to win a popularity contest, he’s conducting a potential criminal investigation governed by the rule of law. When his report is issued and criminal charges are filed, the American people, through their elected representatives, will have a choice to make-does the United States want to remain a democratic republic based on the rule of law via our founding document, the constitution, or revert to a monarchy or worse, a banana republic. Republicans are not the only ones who have a say in this matter.

    I think what you’re going to find when the charges are leveled, is that the Team Trump Treason Administration is as corrupt as they come and that members of the Republican Party, the RNC and the NRA were all in on the conspiracy to defraud the United States and that they obstructed justice to cover it up.

    Team Mueller is a former marine who served in combat in Vietnam. He’s not worried about his poll numbers amongst republicans. Hoo Rah!
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  • my2hands
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I preferred Debbie Does Dallas.

    I have to admit it.... I think I'm falling in love with @PJ_Soul
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    2017
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



  • cincybearcat
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    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,775
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,878
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    Oh I have an opinion, but it doesn’t matter. Only the mueller team facts will matter.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,775
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    Oh I have an opinion, but it doesn’t matter. Only the mueller team facts will matter.
    Agreed , ok let me ask it differently if you had to bet $ which scenario would you bet on ...
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,635
    "THE FIELD"
    I am just kinda ready for this investigation to be done.  It'll change nothing.  As we've discussed, it won't sway Fox News or his followers.  He'd literally have to be recorded telling Putin "I'll do your bidding" and even then, it would be roundly dismissed as doctored. 

    What's probably going to come out of it is that Russia stuck its nose in our election, some from Trump's crew were happy to help their process out, Trump himself did not directly touch anything, and it'll look shady.  But not shady enough to budge any of his supports or to outdo the onslaught of how "fake" the whole thing was.  
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,775
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    I am just kinda ready for this investigation to be done.  It'll change nothing.  As we've discussed, it won't sway Fox News or his followers.  He'd literally have to be recorded telling Putin "I'll do your bidding" and even then, it would be roundly dismissed as doctored. 

    What's probably going to come out of it is that Russia stuck its nose in our election, some from Trump's crew were happy to help their process out, Trump himself did not directly touch anything, and it'll look shady.  But not shady enough to budge any of his supports or to outdo the onslaught of how "fake" the whole thing was.  
    Do you think he knew or are you of the thought he knew nothing of what was going on ? in my opinion there is no way he didn't know what was about to happen even if his little fingers didn't touch anything ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019

    Again....it doesn't have to sway all of his supporters. Many are a lost cause. It has to sway the more reasonable 10-15%. It's possible.


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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,878
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    Oh I have an opinion, but it doesn’t matter. Only the mueller team facts will matter.
    Agreed , ok let me ask it differently if you had to bet $ which scenario would you bet on ...
    My $ originally was on Trump being ousted due to improper campaign practices by his staff.  Now my $ is on Mueller finding plenty to connect trump and russia and then congress doing nothing and the president not being charged while in office.  I am losing faith in people.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,775
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    Oh I have an opinion, but it doesn’t matter. Only the mueller team facts will matter.
    Agreed , ok let me ask it differently if you had to bet $ which scenario would you bet on ...
    My $ originally was on Trump being ousted due to improper campaign practices by his staff.  Now my $ is on Mueller finding plenty to connect trump and russia and then congress doing nothing and the president not being charged while in office.  I am losing faith in people.
    yep i fall in the same basket , he will get away with everything ! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,635
    "THE FIELD"
    OnWis97 said:
    I am just kinda ready for this investigation to be done.  It'll change nothing.  As we've discussed, it won't sway Fox News or his followers.  He'd literally have to be recorded telling Putin "I'll do your bidding" and even then, it would be roundly dismissed as doctored. 

    What's probably going to come out of it is that Russia stuck its nose in our election, some from Trump's crew were happy to help their process out, Trump himself did not directly touch anything, and it'll look shady.  But not shady enough to budge any of his supports or to outdo the onslaught of how "fake" the whole thing was.  
    Do you think he knew or are you of the thought he knew nothing of what was going on ? in my opinion there is no way he didn't know what was about to happen even if his little fingers didn't touch anything ...
    Oh, I am sure he knew at least the big picture of what was going on.  But I'm just getting burned out on people waiting for this all to come crumbling down, talking impeachment from day 1, on the edge of their seats.  Half the population and the entire party (in this essentially one-party system) will adore him under any imaginable circumstance.  Whatever the investigation finds, if it says "Trump knew" or even "Trump participated" it's not going to matter.  They'll either ignore it or dismiss it as phony.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am just kinda ready for this investigation to be done.  It'll change nothing.  As we've discussed, it won't sway Fox News or his followers.  He'd literally have to be recorded telling Putin "I'll do your bidding" and even then, it would be roundly dismissed as doctored. 

    What's probably going to come out of it is that Russia stuck its nose in our election, some from Trump's crew were happy to help their process out, Trump himself did not directly touch anything, and it'll look shady.  But not shady enough to budge any of his supports or to outdo the onslaught of how "fake" the whole thing was.  
    Do you think he knew or are you of the thought he knew nothing of what was going on ? in my opinion there is no way he didn't know what was about to happen even if his little fingers didn't touch anything ...
    Oh, I am sure he knew at least the big picture of what was going on.  But I'm just getting burned out on people waiting for this all to come crumbling down, talking impeachment from day 1, on the edge of their seats.  Half the population and the entire party (in this essentially one-party system) will adore him under any imaginable circumstance.  Whatever the investigation finds, if it says "Trump knew" or even "Trump participated" it's not going to matter.  They'll either ignore it or dismiss it as phony.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,775
    2018
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I am just kinda ready for this investigation to be done.  It'll change nothing.  As we've discussed, it won't sway Fox News or his followers.  He'd literally have to be recorded telling Putin "I'll do your bidding" and even then, it would be roundly dismissed as doctored. 

    What's probably going to come out of it is that Russia stuck its nose in our election, some from Trump's crew were happy to help their process out, Trump himself did not directly touch anything, and it'll look shady.  But not shady enough to budge any of his supports or to outdo the onslaught of how "fake" the whole thing was.  
    Do you think he knew or are you of the thought he knew nothing of what was going on ? in my opinion there is no way he didn't know what was about to happen even if his little fingers didn't touch anything ...
    Oh, I am sure he knew at least the big picture of what was going on.  But I'm just getting burned out on people waiting for this all to come crumbling down, talking impeachment from day 1, on the edge of their seats.  Half the population and the entire party (in this essentially one-party system) will adore him under any imaginable circumstance.  Whatever the investigation finds, if it says "Trump knew" or even "Trump participated" it's not going to matter.  They'll either ignore it or dismiss it as phony.
    Yes that seems to be the way things look right now , but this is something that could crumble any chance for democracy to survive  , if we all just shrug our shoulders and say well there's nothing anyone can do about it and just let it happen ....Only time will tell 
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