***DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED***

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.
    “There was no collusion,” repeat 7 Xs. What that illustrates is that a Russian oligarchs, Kilimnik, with close ties to Putin on the ritz, had leverage over Manafort in the form of millions owed and Manafort soliciting and conducting quid pro quos for relief. Further, Kilimnik andhis ties to Russian intelligence go as far back as 1995,as far back as Manafort’s work in Ukraine. Kilimnik is so dirty that he can’t get a visa to enter the US. To say, “there was no collusion,” is ludicrous. Team mueller will get to the bottom of it but why the rush?
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  • Smellyman
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Bias?  MSNBC uses facts and reason to report.  Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, all radio talk shows et al. carry no shut burden.
  • The Juggler
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.

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  • The Juggler
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    UH OH...


    Looks like Cohen is intending to cooperate...

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    “Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.”

    Question remains, if Team Trump Treason “has nothing to hide,” “doesn’t know any Russians.”and “there was no collusion,” when will he sit down with Team Mueller for as long as it takes? What is Team Trump Treason hiding?

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  • dignin
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    The Juggler said:

    UH OH...


    Looks like Cohen is intending to cooperate...


  • Lerxst1992
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    The Juggler said: I
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    Dbl.

  • Lerxst1992
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    "THE FIELD"
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
  • tbergs
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    Is cooperating the same as flipping because it seems Cohen is on board.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The Juggler
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .

    You'd think those charges would come towards the end of the investigation though. He's not going to just throw a charge out there more closely related to collusion/coordination now to appease the public. He's going to do it when it's time per the normal course of his investigation.

    If it's today or months from now, it ultimately doesn't matter. And if it's as damning as some suspect, the public will come around to it.


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  • The Juggler
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    tbergs said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    Is cooperating the same as flipping because it seems Cohen is on board.

    Same thing. Cohen is toast
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.
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  • PJ_Soul
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    edited June 2018
    2018
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    No, the jury here is not the American public.
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    No, the jury here is not the American public.
    Right, the American people only seem like the jury now cause it's an investigation and no details shared ... other than what Trump leaks.  But when the time comes, there will be a real judge and a real jury and the court of public opinion will give way to a real court.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    even if the public were the jury, he is not winning any campaign. he is appeasing his base and nothing more. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    even if the public were the jury, he is not winning any campaign. he is appeasing his base and nothing more. 

    Right. I've said this countless times, but there's 30-35% of his base who are a lost cause: brainwashed deplorables, if you will. It's the other 10-15% more rational folks who held their nose and voted for him because the other candidate was a train wreck that are ultimately the ones who can be swayed....and I think they can be if the end result of this investigation is damning.
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    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
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    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,777
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