** THE IMPENDING IMPEACHMENT OR RESIGNATION OF DONALD J TRUMP **

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.
    “There was no collusion,” repeat 7 Xs. What that illustrates is that a Russian oligarchs, Kilimnik, with close ties to Putin on the ritz, had leverage over Manafort in the form of millions owed and Manafort soliciting and conducting quid pro quos for relief. Further, Kilimnik andhis ties to Russian intelligence go as far back as 1995,as far back as Manafort’s work in Ukraine. Kilimnik is so dirty that he can’t get a visa to enter the US. To say, “there was no collusion,” is ludicrous. Team mueller will get to the bottom of it but why the rush?
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 3,468
    edited June 12
    2018

    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    Bias?  MSNBC uses facts and reason to report.  Fox, Breitbart, Daily Caller, all radio talk shows et al. carry no shut burden.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,308
    edited June 12
    2019
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,308
    2019

    UH OH...


    Looks like Cohen is intending to cooperate...

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    “Follow the money, from Russia with Love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.”

    Question remains, if Team Trump Treason “has nothing to hide,” “doesn’t know any Russians.”and “there was no collusion,” when will he sit down with Team Mueller for as long as it takes? What is Team Trump Treason hiding?

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  • dignindignin Posts: 6,636

    UH OH...


    Looks like Cohen is intending to cooperate...


  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 639
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    The Juggler said: I
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 639
    "THE FIELD"
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 5,179
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    Is cooperating the same as flipping because it seems Cohen is on board.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,308
    2019
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .

    You'd think those charges would come towards the end of the investigation though. He's not going to just throw a charge out there more closely related to collusion/coordination now to appease the public. He's going to do it when it's time per the normal course of his investigation.

    If it's today or months from now, it ultimately doesn't matter. And if it's as damning as some suspect, the public will come around to it.


    Trust The Process.

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,308
    2019
    tbergs said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    Is cooperating the same as flipping because it seems Cohen is on board.

    Same thing. Cohen is toast
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 44,241
    edited June 13
    2018
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    No, the jury here is not the American public.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,642
    2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    No, the jury here is not the American public.
    Right, the American people only seem like the jury now cause it's an investigation and no details shared ... other than what Trump leaks.  But when the time comes, there will be a real judge and a real jury and the court of public opinion will give way to a real court.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 639
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    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 16,139
    2018
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    even if the public were the jury, he is not winning any campaign. he is appeasing his base and nothing more. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 32,308
    2019
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .
    even if the public were the jury, he is not winning any campaign. he is appeasing his base and nothing more. 

    Right. I've said this countless times, but there's 30-35% of his base who are a lost cause: brainwashed deplorables, if you will. It's the other 10-15% more rational folks who held their nose and voted for him because the other candidate was a train wreck that are ultimately the ones who can be swayed....and I think they can be if the end result of this investigation is damning.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,036
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
    The movie? 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 44,241
    2018
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 9,036
    Mandy Does Mueller? 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    Thanks for the hope ;-)

    If the Rs win both House and Senate, I firmly believe crooked donny will fire Mueller and Rosenstein.

    This is not a typical investigation, and he is not a typical subject. The clock is ticking.
    That won’t stop the inevitable. If you think Team Mueller doesn’t have a contingency in place, you’re crazy. Remember Deep Throat? 
    The movie? 
    With Linda Lovelace or the remake?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    Follow the money from Russia with love and a PTape all the way to impeachment.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/politics/banks-wigmore-russian-ambassador-meetings/index.html

    See? Connecting dots is fun fun fun boys and girls. 6 hour lunches to discuss grandchildren? And you guys were worried about Billy Boy talking to Loretta Lynch on the tarmac?

    And has anyone else seen the pattern emerge of the accusations against Hillary during the campaign were things or similar things that Team Trump Treason was actually doing? Anyone?
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 639
    "THE FIELD"
    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.


    The difference Dems play by the rules and Rs don't...they cheat, lie, do anything to sway public opinion and get elected

    If no direct collusion indictments appear by Nov and D's lose both houses, the investigation is done.

    From politico yesterday...

    Months of sustained conservative attacks led by President Donald Trump and his allies have harmed Mueller most among Republicans, with a record 53 percent now saying they view the lead Russia investigator in an unfavorable light. That’s a 26-point spikesince July, when the poll first started asking voters whether they viewed Mueller favorably or unfavorably.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 17,435
    The idea that there should be some sort of time frame to conclude an investigation is a complete farce. How long was Bhenghazi drawn out? Watergate? Iran-Contra? Whitewater? Maybe Team Trump Treason should stop acting guilty, fully cooperate with the investigation and tell his side to stop leaking shit to the press or others. Like Juggler stated, however long it takes, doesn't matter. What matters is the result and to get it right. Team Trump Tereason is innocent, so be it. If he's guilty, as I suspect he is, he should be impeached and the American people and their elected representatives will have a choice to make. Something as egregious as what's being investigated shouldn't be swept under the rug. Its just a matter of time.


    The difference Dems play by the rules and Rs don't...they cheat, lie, do anything to sway public opinion and get elected

    If no direct collusion indictments appear by Nov and D's lose both houses, the investigation is done.

    From politico yesterday...

    Months of sustained conservative attacks led by President Donald Trump and his allies have harmed Mueller most among Republicans, with a record 53 percent now saying they view the lead Russia investigator in an unfavorable light. That’s a 26-point spikesince July, when the poll first started asking voters whether they viewed Mueller favorably or unfavorably.
    Team Mueller is not trying to win a popularity contest, he’s conducting a potential criminal investigation governed by the rule of law. When his report is issued and criminal charges are filed, the American people, through their elected representatives, will have a choice to make-does the United States want to remain a democratic republic based on the rule of law via our founding document, the constitution, or revert to a monarchy or worse, a banana republic. Republicans are not the only ones who have a say in this matter.

    I think what you’re going to find when the charges are leveled, is that the Team Trump Treason Administration is as corrupt as they come and that members of the Republican Party, the RNC and the NRA were all in on the conspiracy to defraud the United States and that they obstructed justice to cover it up.

    Team Mueller is a former marine who served in combat in Vietnam. He’s not worried about his poll numbers amongst republicans. Hoo Rah!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,032
    2017
    PJ_Soul said:
    I preferred Debbie Does Dallas.

    I have to admit it.... I think I'm falling in love with @PJ_Soul
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 16,032
    2017
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,642
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 19,821
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,642
    2018
    my2hands said:
    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated


    I know she comes with the MSNBC bias but try to rationally dispute what she's reporting on. Go ahead, I dare you. 3D? BS? Anyone?

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/manafort-s-fate-turned-with-the-political-interests-in-ukraine-1251775555837?playlist=associated



    I admire your loyalty to the cause, but Mueller needs a solid indictment linking TTT to the Russian election tampering offences against the Democrats...and soon.

    These crimes about Ukraine simply do not sell here with the GOP.


    Why does it have to be soon? I want him to take all the time he needs to get it right...

    The Ukraine stuff is designed to pressure Manafort into flipping.


    I'm not saying Mueller needs to be done soon, but at least come up with  a single count against Manafort specific to the election. And neither Manafort nor Cohen are flipping.

    Unfortunately the jury here is the American public and Trump is starting to win the PR campaign.

    .


    Trust The Process.



    Let’s say it concludes that while a few people did some wrong, trump did nothing wrong and there was no collusion? Will you accept it? I sure hope mueller is able to conduct the investigation through and come to a conclusion and I hope everyone will accept it. But the reality is if it concludes trump or his campaign colluded...trump supporters won’t accept it. If it concludes the opposite, just watch the MSNBC reaction
    in your opinion has baffon acted like someone who is not guilty or someone who is hiding a crime ...
    Oh I have an opinion, but it doesn’t matter. Only the mueller team facts will matter.
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