Shows are no longer 3 hours/ less encores/less songs? Discuss
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I agree. 27 Pj songs is just as good as 34 songs with 7 covers in my opiniontbergs said:Looking at today's setlist I see 0 covers (RITFW doesn't count anymore), which is awesome because one of the biggest complaints in '16 were the 5 or so covers every night. I also remember threads back then that were discussing this very thing; shorter and tighter sets and how people would feel about it. I think people were even recently breaking down cost per song based on ticket prices (ridiculous) so this means a more expensive Even Flow and Sirens
I think 27 songs is a hell of a show and as long as they mix it up more with some of their back catalog you'll barely notice when you're at the show. One of the problems I could see is knowing that there will always be about 7 standards at every show which leaves around 20 variations a night. Still amazing by most bands standards, but the 5 song difference in set length may be more noticeable.
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I was thinking this. They could have done at least 1 or 2 more and easily been finished before the curfew.Weston1283 said:I don’t think it had to do with curfew... band was off the stage at 10:45 each night
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Would people stop with three hrs. A three hour show is rare. They generally come on 840-9 and play until 11-1115. With the encore breaks and chatter I’d b surprised if the average show is more than 2 30-40. Anything over 2.5 is bonus.0
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They are getting old. How many 50+ year olds can you see running around for three hours and scream their heads off... It's a shame, but unless someone finds the fountain of youth... it's the way it is.
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I don't remember which boot it's from. But I recall one from the last few years, Ed mentions they had been talking about scaling show lengths back a bit...but then they didn't. Well, apparently they finally have.0
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He mentioned it in Milton Keynes. He'd heard that Chrissie Hynde was planning on doing really short, tight sets (45mins). Or something similar. I think he joked that maybe they'd do it next time.Sarava said:I don't remember which boot it's from. But I recall one from the last few years, Ed mentions they had been talking about scaling show lengths back a bit...but then they didn't. Well, apparently they finally have.Post edited by graham1978 on0 -
jam more please, number of songs doesn't matter....more jamming0
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Exactlyweekapaug19 said:jam more please, number of songs doesn't matter....more jammingSpiritual_Chaos said:I think Pearl Jam should jam out more of their jam-compatible songs. Instead of throwing in more songs.
30-35 songs sounds excessive for Pearl. Throwing in one million short punkrocksongs for 3 hours isn't ideal in my opinion.
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As long as they keep mixing up their sets, I have absolutely no issue with a 2.5hr, 27 song show.0
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Wrong! Go to a Phish concert if you want a jam sessionweekapaug19 said:jam more please, number of songs doesn't matter....more jammingColumbus-2000
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I think the sets will probably average around 29 songs once all the shows are in the books.
the American Ballpark sets will be longer.
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I sure hope notDSTRUB said:Less lightning bolt?
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Weren't the SA shows in the 27 song range too most nights? Seems like the new normal. Will miss the 34-35 song sets, but can certainly understand that Ed may not be able to do that vocally any more.1996-09.22; 1998-06.14,07.02,07.13,07.14,08.17,08.18; 2000-08.18,08.20,10.11,10.27,10.28; 2003-04.23,04.26,06.18,06.19,06.22; 2004-10.02,10.03,10.05; 2006-05.16,05.17,05.19,05.20,06.23,06.24; 2007-08.05; 2009-08.23,08.24,09.28,10.31; 2010-05.06,05.07; 2011-09.03,09.04; 2013-07.19; 2014-10.01; 2016-04.26,08.20,08.22; 2018-08.18, 08.20; 2022-09.17; 2023-09.05, 09.07; 2024-08.260
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I think you hit the nail on the headReno1979 said:Hard 11pm curfew at Ziggo, and I saw the big security dude who helps Ed when down with the crowd outside the venue at about 7:55pm assessing how long the line was still to get in... (it was REALLY long). So likely late start and hard end time in place.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Cue the Bruce fans in 3,2,1.........Miss.Snowdrop said:They are getting old. How many 50+ year olds can you see running around for three hours and scream their heads off... It's a shame, but unless someone finds the fountain of youth... it's the way it is.0 -
I love Bruce, but I think Pearl Jam songs are much more vocally demanding than Bruce’s songsnicknyr15 said:
Cue the Bruce fans in 3,2,1.........Miss.Snowdrop said:They are getting old. How many 50+ year olds can you see running around for three hours and scream their heads off... It's a shame, but unless someone finds the fountain of youth... it's the way it is.2010: Cleveland
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this is what happens if Ed starts pushing himself too hard.
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Not a problem with his voice in Sweden..lolobugg said:this is what happens if Ed starts pushing himself too hard.
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Not to mention they are listenable as well.Weston1283 said:
I love Bruce, but I think Pearl Jam songs are much more vocally demanding than Bruce’s songsnicknyr15 said:
Cue the Bruce fans in 3,2,1.........Miss.Snowdrop said:They are getting old. How many 50+ year olds can you see running around for three hours and scream their heads off... It's a shame, but unless someone finds the fountain of youth... it's the way it is.hippiemom = goodness0 -
There can't be that many shows where they have played more than 3 hours. Maybe two dozen?I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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