America's Gun Violence
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Gern Blansten said:http://fox59.com/2018/05/28/noblesville-mayor-says-he-was-booted-from-gun-store-following-school-shooting/
Just to give this perspective. There was a shooting at a middle school in Noblesville, IN on Friday. As of now there are no deaths. The teacher that was shot (who tackled the shooter) is out of the hospital and doing well. The little girl that was shot is still in the hospital in stable condition.
The day after the shooting, a local gun shop had an NRA sign up tent set up in their parking lot. The REPUBLICAN Mayor (I think he's on his third term) went to the gun store to ask them to please take down the tent given the circumstances. They kicked him out of the store.Disturbing.
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Gun fans: I do not own a gun. Am I still alive after 37 years because dangerous criminals assume I may have a gun on me in my car or home? I just don't understand after reading up on these threads how I have survived all these years. It is dumbfounding to me how lucky I must be. Going to buy a lotto ticket today.
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Excellent post! I've gone 4 more years than you. I must be some kind of miracle!bootlegger10 said:Gun fans: I do not own a gun. Am I still alive after 37 years because dangerous criminals assume I may have a gun on me in my car or home? I just don't understand after reading up on these threads how I have survived all these years. It is dumbfounding to me how lucky I must be. Going to buy a lotto ticket today.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Wow! You may have super powers. You should check if you can fly or something. I think it is highly unlikely I will make it four more years from now. So many bad actors just waiting to attack me.HesCalledDyer said:
Excellent post! I've gone 4 more years than you. I must be some kind of miracle!bootlegger10 said:Gun fans: I do not own a gun. Am I still alive after 37 years because dangerous criminals assume I may have a gun on me in my car or home? I just don't understand after reading up on these threads how I have survived all these years. It is dumbfounding to me how lucky I must be. Going to buy a lotto ticket today.0 -
I have also eaten plenty of red meat over the years. Not one ounce of it was from me shooting an animal myself to get it. Don’t have a clue where it comes from.0
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If porn was the cause of mass shootings there would have been many more of them over the years0
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Some of us have lost loved ones to murderers. Glad that hasn't happened to you.bootlegger10 said:Gun fans: I do not own a gun. Am I still alive after 37 years because dangerous criminals assume I may have a gun on me in my car or home? I just don't understand after reading up on these threads how I have survived all these years. It is dumbfounding to me how lucky I must be. Going to buy a lotto ticket today.
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Some of us have lost loved ones to murderers. Glad that hasn't happened to you.bootlegger10 said:Gun fans: I do not own a gun. Am I still alive after 37 years because dangerous criminals assume I may have a gun on me in my car or home? I just don't understand after reading up on these threads how I have survived all these years. It is dumbfounding to me how lucky I must be. Going to buy a lotto ticket today.That is very sad. I'm sorry if you lost someone this way.
A lot of these people were probably murdered with guns. I wonder what percentage of people killed would have enough time to get a gun to protect themselves in that incident even if they had the gun. Sure the killers could use a knife or other blunt object, but it seems the common denominator are guns. Other countries do not have the gun crime we do so I think we should start getting this country to become more like others (and that means a long term goal of getting rid of guns).
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Very few gun owners are NRA members, something around 5% I believe.PJ_Soul said:
Yes, if this 85% - 90% estimation is accurate, then you'd think that the NRA would have lost 85% - 90% of its millions of members. Instead, gun sales and NRA membership purchases increase after every mass shooting, and NRA members are not dropping out. There was 10% increase in NRA memberships after Newtown alone. And I figure that those members who refuse to acknowledge how complicit the NRA is when it comes to this crisis in America, then they are also complicit. Anyone who claims to support increasing gun restrictions and continues to be an NRA member actually doesn't support increasing gun restrictions at all.dignin said:
If so many gun owners want more restrictions then why aren't there more restrictions?mace1229 said:
I can think maybe 1 person who doesn’t want more gun restrictions here. Every source I’ve ever seen puts it at 85-90% of gun owners want change.bootlegger10 said:I was okay with gun ownership a couple years ago. I never would want to own one myself but understood the reasons people would want to own one.
But listening to you gun nuts not want to give a damn inch has made me 100% change my opinion and I say take all the guns. If you can't compromise just a little bit to try to save some kids' lives than I'm sorry, you blew it. Let's get some legislation to take all of your guns you self-absorbed, uncaring, and scared scared scared scared scared scared scared scared people.
so where are you getting this idea from? Are you basing this statement from one poster on a single forum and applying it to all gun owners?
And I’ve also seen said many times “no one wants to take your guns”. But your about the 4th or 5th person this week to say so.
So if every single NRA member was against more regulations, that does very little compared to the majority who do.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
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He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.mcgruff10 said:Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
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It’s just 29%. No biggie. Why didn’t they mention the numbers in the higher death toll they acknowledged?mcgruff10 said:Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
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mcgruff10 said:
Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
Handguns and assault rifles.
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Don't know, the article ended. I was surprised at how often handguns are used.Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s just 29%. No biggie. Why didn’t they mention the numbers in the higher death toll they acknowledged?mcgruff10 said:Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
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It's a very unfortunate situation that is a part of our current cycle for perpetual inaction after shootings. If anything other than an AR-15 style weapon is used, detractors will start spouting that a ban will do nothing and that we need to enforce the current laws on the books, but when the AR-15 style weapons are used then it becomes the statistical approach of how infrequent and how few of them are actually used in the overall national gun violence spectrum. Always forgotten though are those who already died and will continue to die without a change to laws, restrictions and ownership requirements for all types of guns.mcgruff10 said:
Don't know, the article ended. I was surprised at how often handguns are used.Halifax2TheMax said:
It’s just 29%. No biggie. Why didn’t they mention the numbers in the higher death toll they acknowledged?mcgruff10 said:Widespread use of handguns in mass shootings undercuts push to ban semiautomatic rifles
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/29/mass-shooting-handgun-usage-figures-undercut-rifle/Handguns are almost three times as likely to be used in mass shootings as rifles, according to a new report from a gun-safety group that appears to cut against gun-control advocates’ push to ban some semiautomatic rifles.
More than three quarters of mass shootings from 1996 to 2016 involved a handgun, while just 29 percent of shooters used a rifle, according to the New York-based Rockefeller Institute, part of a gun safety initiative convened by a handful of mostly Democratic governors.
Some shooters, such as the attack at a Texas school earlier this month, carried both a handgun and a long gun.
The relatively small percentage of mass shootings involving rifles busts one of the “myths” of the gun debate, the new study said.
“I think it would come as a surprise to a lot of people,” said Robert J. Spitzer, a political science professor at SUNY Cortland who is part of the research arm of the multi-state gun group though he didn’t write this new report.
He added, though, that the use of rifles is on the rise in high-profile mass shootings, and said they often account for a higher death toll in shootings.
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Outside of the ones on police hips, I've seen a gun in real life exactly once, about 15 years ago maybe. This is what happens to regular Canadians when they find out someone is packing heat.bootlegger10 said:I have also eaten plenty of red meat over the years. Not one ounce of it was from me shooting an animal myself to get it. Don’t have a clue where it comes from.
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I have never seen a handgun in person. just a hunting rifle.PJ_Soul said:
Outside of the ones on police hips, I've seen a gun in real life exactly once, about 15 years ago maybe. This is what happens to regular Canadians when they find out someone is packing heat.bootlegger10 said:I have also eaten plenty of red meat over the years. Not one ounce of it was from me shooting an animal myself to get it. Don’t have a clue where it comes from.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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