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SDs following the will of the voter!
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/politics/hillary-clinton-ed-rendell-bloomberg/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/politics/hillary-clinton-ed-rendell-bloomberg/index.html
4/26/2016 State and presidential primary
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benjs said:JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:should I make my predictions on the responses from the Hill-bot email list'ers?
For now Ill quote the democratic leader Pelosi:
“I don’t know that a person can tape a person without the person’s consent and then release it to the press,” Pelosi told reporters today. “In terms of candidates and campaigns I don’t see anything inappropriate in what Mr. Hoyer was engaged in — a conversation about the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election.”
Here is the Democrats strategy to WINNING (worked so well over the past 10 years or so!)
We're openly and admitting to rigging the "democratic primaries" (against progressives) because that's the best chance for "us" to "win". wait what?
The proof and the reason why democratic voters should "trust their process"? 1000 SEATS AND HILLIARY CLINTON!
Now I see why Hilliary email list is worth so much money! I should try to buy some or all of that list, I too have a few things to sell them
I don't feel the population is the lesser of two evils, what make you assume that?
If you want a "system" whereby the primary candidates are chosen by a select few, for example a board, then describe how it would work and we can discuss it. I'm addressing the current system in place, whereby candidates run in a primary and the winner as determined by the voters runs against the "opposing" party(s) in the general.
If voters are too uneducated and ignorant for a thriving democracy, then have the Democratic party become a public company, that way shareholders have their say and the board of directors can choose the primary candidate (on behalf of their shareholders).
This will do away with the charade of holding "democratic" primary elections and better yet save money on the primary elections while raising capital (publicly traded) for the party.
The "Board of Directors" model you're referring to effectively is the DNC with its superdelegates (arguably your biggest problem with the system), so I'm not sure why you think that'd be preferable.
On the other side of the coin, the absence of the "Board of Directors" model is closer to the GOP with their lack of superdelegates.
Model A produced Hillary Clinton as a candidate. Model B produced Donald Trump as a candidate.
I'm not sure how anyone would read your lines and your disproportionate criticism of the DNC and its members, when compared to your hard-to-find GOP criticism, and disagree with my conclusion that you feel that the population is the lesser of two evils.
In my opinion, all roads lead to destruction.
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JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:should I make my predictions on the responses from the Hill-bot email list'ers?
For now Ill quote the democratic leader Pelosi:
“I don’t know that a person can tape a person without the person’s consent and then release it to the press,” Pelosi told reporters today. “In terms of candidates and campaigns I don’t see anything inappropriate in what Mr. Hoyer was engaged in — a conversation about the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election.”
Here is the Democrats strategy to WINNING (worked so well over the past 10 years or so!)
We're openly and admitting to rigging the "democratic primaries" (against progressives) because that's the best chance for "us" to "win". wait what?
The proof and the reason why democratic voters should "trust their process"? 1000 SEATS AND HILLIARY CLINTON!
Now I see why Hilliary email list is worth so much money! I should try to buy some or all of that list, I too have a few things to sell them
I don't feel the population is the lesser of two evils, what make you assume that?
If you want a "system" whereby the primary candidates are chosen by a select few, for example a board, then describe how it would work and we can discuss it. I'm addressing the current system in place, whereby candidates run in a primary and the winner as determined by the voters runs against the "opposing" party(s) in the general.
If voters are too uneducated and ignorant for a thriving democracy, then have the Democratic party become a public company, that way shareholders have their say and the board of directors can choose the primary candidate (on behalf of their shareholders).
This will do away with the charade of holding "democratic" primary elections and better yet save money on the primary elections while raising capital (publicly traded) for the party.
The "Board of Directors" model you're referring to effectively is the DNC with its superdelegates (arguably your biggest problem with the system), so I'm not sure why you think that'd be preferable.
On the other side of the coin, the absence of the "Board of Directors" model is closer to the GOP with their lack of superdelegates.
Model A produced Hillary Clinton as a candidate. Model B produced Donald Trump as a candidate.
I'm not sure how anyone would read your lines and your disproportionate criticism of the DNC and its members, when compared to your hard-to-find GOP criticism, and disagree with my conclusion that you feel that the population is the lesser of two evils.
In my opinion, all roads lead to destruction.
but but Bernie got robbed he got robbed I fo feel for you at least I admit that I voted for a horrible candidate but I’ve come to terms with it and now it’s time to pay attention to what this idiot is doing to our nation ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
gatekeepers gotta keep gates!
false-equivalencyThe Battle of Woodstock
What does it mean when the biggest threat to upstart Democrats is the national Democratic Party?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/jeff-beals-new-york-midterms-w520302
3. The Candidate agrees to have a campaign budget completed six months prior to the primary and to focus on preserving at least 75% of funds for paid communications.
Instead, the Democrats have plunged into a bizarre decade-long slide, losing both houses of Congress and upwards of 1,000 state legislative seats since the beginning of the Obama era. The shocking loss of seeming presidential shoo-in Hillary Clinton in 2016 spoke to something gone horribly awry in the "permanent Democratic majority" narrative, making 2018 a vital test of the party's ability to stop the mysterious bleeding.
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The Assistance#AssistTrump
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Is that all your do is focus on HRC & Democrats?
I'm starting to believe you're on the payroll, comrade lol0 -
Looks like the Dems weren't able to lock the Repubs out of the governor's election in CA.It's a hopeless situation...0
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JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:should I make my predictions on the responses from the Hill-bot email list'ers?
For now Ill quote the democratic leader Pelosi:
“I don’t know that a person can tape a person without the person’s consent and then release it to the press,” Pelosi told reporters today. “In terms of candidates and campaigns I don’t see anything inappropriate in what Mr. Hoyer was engaged in — a conversation about the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election.”
Here is the Democrats strategy to WINNING (worked so well over the past 10 years or so!)
We're openly and admitting to rigging the "democratic primaries" (against progressives) because that's the best chance for "us" to "win". wait what?
The proof and the reason why democratic voters should "trust their process"? 1000 SEATS AND HILLIARY CLINTON!
Now I see why Hilliary email list is worth so much money! I should try to buy some or all of that list, I too have a few things to sell them
I don't feel the population is the lesser of two evils, what make you assume that?
If you want a "system" whereby the primary candidates are chosen by a select few, for example a board, then describe how it would work and we can discuss it. I'm addressing the current system in place, whereby candidates run in a primary and the winner as determined by the voters runs against the "opposing" party(s) in the general.
If voters are too uneducated and ignorant for a thriving democracy, then have the Democratic party become a public company, that way shareholders have their say and the board of directors can choose the primary candidate (on behalf of their shareholders).
This will do away with the charade of holding "democratic" primary elections and better yet save money on the primary elections while raising capital (publicly traded) for the party.
The "Board of Directors" model you're referring to effectively is the DNC with its superdelegates (arguably your biggest problem with the system), so I'm not sure why you think that'd be preferable.
On the other side of the coin, the absence of the "Board of Directors" model is closer to the GOP with their lack of superdelegates.
Model A produced Hillary Clinton as a candidate. Model B produced Donald Trump as a candidate.
I'm not sure how anyone would read your lines and your disproportionate criticism of the DNC and its members, when compared to your hard-to-find GOP criticism, and disagree with my conclusion that you feel that the population is the lesser of two evils.
In my opinion, all roads lead to destruction.
Before I say anything else I must question your definition/opinion of the "democratic-ness" of US voting in primaries. Are you saying that gate-keeping by appointed party heads (not super-delegates) is more "democratic" than individuals with an equal vote in a system that represents all citizens? If so, your opinion is in a very very small minority.
Sorry about the delay on responding by the way - I was travelling from the 13th until this past Thursday.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
JC29856 said:benjs said:JC29856 said:should I make my predictions on the responses from the Hill-bot email list'ers?
For now Ill quote the democratic leader Pelosi:
“I don’t know that a person can tape a person without the person’s consent and then release it to the press,” Pelosi told reporters today. “In terms of candidates and campaigns I don’t see anything inappropriate in what Mr. Hoyer was engaged in — a conversation about the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election.”
Here is the Democrats strategy to WINNING (worked so well over the past 10 years or so!)
We're openly and admitting to rigging the "democratic primaries" (against progressives) because that's the best chance for "us" to "win". wait what?
The proof and the reason why democratic voters should "trust their process"? 1000 SEATS AND HILLIARY CLINTON!
Now I see why Hilliary email list is worth so much money! I should try to buy some or all of that list, I too have a few things to sell them
I don't feel the population is the lesser of two evils, what make you assume that?
If you want a "system" whereby the primary candidates are chosen by a select few, for example a board, then describe how it would work and we can discuss it. I'm addressing the current system in place, whereby candidates run in a primary and the winner as determined by the voters runs against the "opposing" party(s) in the general.
If voters are too uneducated and ignorant for a thriving democracy, then have the Democratic party become a public company, that way shareholders have their say and the board of directors can choose the primary candidate (on behalf of their shareholders).
This will do away with the charade of holding "democratic" primary elections and better yet save money on the primary elections while raising capital (publicly traded) for the party.
Also - no one is shut out, just some people are better at influencing/persuading the masses than others. You might blame disparities in advertising dollars - I say your system is FUBAR until your people can stop being so damn easily manipulated by mediocre advertisements that say that Hillary Clinton was up to no good in pizza parlours, etc. You know what people should care about? Fucking policy, and what fucking results they will produce. But too many don't.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
This is sure to make the old, white, christian, republican males crazy......
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Bentleyspop said:This is sure to make the old, white, christian, republican males crazy......09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/
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JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/0 -
mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 10 -
benjs said:mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/0 -
benjs said:mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/
So why do people feed the trolls?0 -
Bentleyspop said:benjs said:mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/
So why do people feed the trolls?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Bentleyspop said:benjs said:mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/
So why do people feed the trolls?0 -
mrussel1 said:Bentleyspop said:benjs said:mrussel1 said:JC29856 said:More monkey business from Donna Brazile!
Super delegates and the "gatekeeper" Tom Perez.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-democrats-courting-chaos-in-2020-by-limiting-the-power-of-superdelegates/
So why do people feed the trolls?
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