Ticketmaster facial recognition tickets
https://www.altpress.com/news/entry/ticketmaster_facial_recognition_tickets
I'm sure its also self serving. It usually is. I'm sure they limit transfers and resale to their own marketplace right? With any technology there is bound to be tons of pushback. Regardless of the motive or outcome they still suck. FU ticketmaster
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cant I just but a ticket, walk up to the door, and hand it over like I've always done? now I need a smart phone, an app, a photo id, the original CC, fingerprint, and facial recognition.... just to attend a 3 hour concert
this stuff is getting out of control, if it comes down to facial recognition I will just stay home
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No, and thats the problem now. Bots and scalpers buy a majority of the tickets.my2hands said:cant I just but a ticket, walk up to the door, and hand it over like I've always done?
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Eddieredder said:No, and thats the problem now. Bots and scalpers buy a majority of the tickets.
Im probably more likely to pay a scalper extra money just so that I don't have to go to the hassle of facial recognition and the other 10 hurdles it will take to purchase a ticket.0 -
NY doesn't have scalper laws which is why you had the opportunity to have your TOTD tix mailed to you.
NY actually welcomes the scalping industry. Politicians don't give a shit here...0 -
Amen to that.my2hands said:cant I just but a ticket, walk up to the door, and hand it over like I've always done? now I need a smart phone, an app, a photo id, the original CC, fingerprint, and facial recognition.... just to attend a 3 hour concert
this stuff is getting out of control, if it comes down to facial recognition I will just stay home
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tempo_n_groove said:NY doesn't have scalper laws which is why you had the opportunity to have your TOTD tix mailed to you.
NY actually welcomes the scalping industry. Politicians don't give a shit here...
well they did just take down your AG that was fighting the ticket brokers.that is going to hurt the fight against scalpers.
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I'm open to pretty much anything as long as refunds on tickets are made available. I don't like any system that screws over people who end up not being able to attend a show because of uncontrollable circumstances. No system should result in people being forced to actually waste a ticket (nothing worse than empty seats) and waste their money.
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I tend to agree with this point as well - especially if the show is a "sell out."PJ_Soul said:I'm open to pretty much anything as long as refunds on tickets are made available. I don't like any system that screws over people who end up not being able to attend a show because of uncontrollable circumstances. No system should result in people being forced to actually waste a ticket (nothing worse than empty seats) and waste their money.0 -
I would assume you could still transfer or resell on Ticketmaster's marketplace. Probably the only option since you have to use their technology. They aren't going to cut off their profit opportunity. Like I said its extremely self serving.PJ_Soul said:I'm open to pretty much anything as long as refunds on tickets are made available. I don't like any system that screws over people who end up not being able to attend a show because of uncontrollable circumstances. No system should result in people being forced to actually waste a ticket (nothing worse than empty seats) and waste their money.0 -
Yeah, but that I don't love. When you can transfer or resell, that is still leaving the door wide open for scalping, and I thought the point was to stop that shit. Plus, I can't even believe it's legal for TM to have that marketplace. It's insane, and I'm pissed off that the government hasn't done anything about that yet. Talk about a conflict of interest. It's just a huge scam!Eddieredder said:I would assume you could still transfer or resell on Ticketmaster's marketplace. Probably the only option since you have to use their technology. They aren't going to cut off their profit opportunity. Like I said its extremely self serving.
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^^^^^ is exactly what they want to do - it kills all resale other than on their site, which would technically violate anti-trust laws I believe.Eddieredder said:I would assume you could still transfer or resell on Ticketmaster's marketplace. Probably the only option since you have to use their technology. They aren't going to cut off their profit opportunity. Like I said its extremely self serving.92 - Phoenix; 93 - Mesa; 95 - Phoenix; 98 - Phoenix; 2000- Phoenix; 2003 - San Diego, Las Vegas, Phoenix; 2006 - Denver 1, Denver 2, Las Vegas, San Diego; 2009 - Chicago 1, Chicago 2, San Diego; 2013 - Phoenix, San Diego, LA 1, LA 2, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle; 2014 - Detroit, Moline, Milwaukee, Denver; 2016 - Ft Lauderdale, Miami, Tampa, Jacksonville, Wrigley 1 and 2; 2018 - Amsterdam 1&2, Pinkpop, London1, Milan, Padova, Rome, Prague, Krakow, Berlin, Werchter, Barca, Missoula, Chicago 1&2, Boston 1&2.0 -
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I went to Gord Downie's Secret path concert in Ottawa and it was a credit card system. You did not get mailed any tickets in advance. You showed up inside the venue with the credit card you charged and they scanned it and printed off a ticket for your assigned seat.
The lineup for this was actually in the lobby right at the entrance doors to the theater room. Makes it much harder for scalpers to pull off their heist.
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There are way too many issues with facial recognition for this to be viable. It has it's place, but consumerism is not that place.
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PP193448 said:They should consider doing a middle finger recognition instead, because lots of people would give that to TM...
they are very familiar with mine!
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Ticketmaster has that, they call it paperless ticketing. It works pretty good. Probably better than anything else I can think of. The one minor drawback is that some scalpers figured out you could simply charge the tickets to a VISA or Mastercard gift card. Then you give the gift card to the buyer. Still a bit of pain, so paperless still works pretty good.willbarclay said:I went to Gord Downie's Secret path concert in Ottawa and it was a credit card system. You did not get mailed any tickets in advance. You showed up inside the venue with the credit card you charged and they scanned it and printed off a ticket for your assigned seat.
The lineup for this was actually in the lobby right at the entrance doors to the theater room. Makes it much harder for scalpers to pull off their heist.
People complain you can't transfer your tickets. Personally I've been going to concerts for over 20 years, and seen hundreds of shows. I can think of 2 or 3 where something came up that I couldn't make. Illness/Emergency etc... 99.7% it's not an issue. I'd gladly eat a few pairs over the span of a few decades, to make it harder to scalp tickets.
Anything you do to make it easier for fans to sell/transfer tickets, makes it easier for scalpers to do so.
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Majority? I don't think so. Secondary sites have a very small portion of tickets for sale. The majority of tickets go to fans and people who buy them at the exact moment they go on sale. If I really want to go to a show I make damn sure to have everything in order and start refreshing the page WAY ahead of time.......Eddieredder said:No, and thats the problem now. Bots and scalpers buy a majority of the tickets.0 -
That isn't really true. A lot of the time only about 30 - 40% of tickets are even available for the fans to buy in the first place.elvistheking44 said:Majority? I don't think so. Secondary sites have a very small portion of tickets for sale. The majority of tickets go to fans and people who buy them at the exact moment they go on sale. If I really want to go to a show I make damn sure to have everything in order and start refreshing the page WAY ahead of time.......
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I’m gonna need to see a fact link on that one. Sure there are all kinds of presales now and different fan experiences offered by the band but I’m still not buying that number. So what your saying is that 60-70% aren’t even offered for sale.PJ_Soul said:That isn't really true. A lot of the time only about 30 - 40% of tickets are even available for the fans to buy in the first place.0 -
I've read as low as 20% in some cases. Fan clubs + promoter + venue + presales + the band alottment etc etc etc. After that it doesn't leave much left at the general public sale. Then come the bots.....elvistheking44 said:I’m gonna need to see a fact link on that one. Sure there are all kinds of presales now and different fan experiences offered by the band but I’m still not buying that number. So what your saying is that 60-70% aren’t even offered for sale.
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