Silencing Opposing Speech

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,890
    edited April 2018
    Go Beavers said:
    I think that might be referencing Facebook filtering out more pro-conservative news or apparently having a pro-liberal bias in the the little news feed that’s off to the right that I ignore. I think conservatives are upset that facebook is delivering content that correlates with their audience values. 
    I think you're 100% right... but also there is the fact that facebook made some changes that filters out fake news... they are probably noticing a major decline in right-wing content because of that as well, lol.

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Go Beavers said:
    I think that might be referencing Facebook filtering out more pro-conservative news or apparently having a pro-liberal bias in the the little news feed that’s off to the right that I ignore. I think conservatives are upset that facebook is delivering content that correlates with their audience values. 
    I think they are upset that Facebook has been deleting their fake news stories that they have been propagating. The same fake news they have been fed by Russian troll farms.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,073
    unsung said:
    Time to get another AR15, Unsung?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I’m hoping that unsung comes back to describe this discrimination. I can hardly wait. 
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    oftenreading said:
    I’m hoping that unsung comes back to describe this discrimination. I can hardly wait. 
    He's searching Facebook for another meme to post.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    All of the pro Trump people I know personally in my life... are all HEAVY Facebook users... and have repeated many fake news stories... just like our boy Unsung

    #brainwashed
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,654
    my2hands said:
    All of the pro Trump people I know personally in my life... are all HEAVY Facebook users... and have repeated many fake news stories... just like our boy Unsung

    #brainwashed
    I have one who when I point out it’s fake, his response is something like ‘oh well I like it anyway’. He’s odd because he supports trump and what he says and does, but then also back pedals and says he doesn’t care what happens to him re: impeachment because he’s getting what he wants. He buys into the whole ha ha look at the upset liberals stuff. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    I hope they destroy him in court. Absolute destruction.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/business/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

    Three parents whose children were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012 filed a defamation lawsuit on Tuesday against Alex Jones, the right-wing conspiracy theorist who has long claimed the shooting was “completely fake” and a “giant hoax” perpetrated by opponents of the Second Amendment.

    Mr. Jones, the popular radio show host who also operates the conspiracy theory website Infowars, has questioned for years whether 20 children and six adults died in the school massacre in Newtown, Conn. To bolster his false claims, he often cites news reports and video clips from the hours after the shooting that turned out to be incomplete or based on wrong information.

    Soon after they buried their children, many Sandy Hook parents started to come under fierce attack by conspiracy theorists who have said they are actors in an elaborate scheme to enact stricter gun control laws. The fringe theories still thrive in small forums online but have reached a far greater audience through Mr. Jones, the most vocal propagator.


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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,497
    If only there was a conspiracy in to the disappearance of Alex Jones...
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,073
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
    Honestly, I thought she was out of bounds for the event.  She had a few very funny lines but a couple crossed the line in my opinion...for the event.  In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal.  But I think it was bad press for the press.  Trump has been trying to undermine them everyday...and they gave him fuel for his fire.  This will embolden his base and even some middle of the round people will support trump on this issue.  Again, trump has gotten his "enemy" to stoop to his level....and he has proven to win those battles.  Unbelievable that we can't have any adults in the room.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,073
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Silencing Michelle Wolfe because she doesn’t conform to “the agenda?”
    Honestly, I thought she was out of bounds for the event.  She had a few very funny lines but a couple crossed the line in my opinion...for the event.  In the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal.  But I think it was bad press for the press.  Trump has been trying to undermine them everyday...and they gave him fuel for his fire.  This will embolden his base and even some middle of the round people will support trump on this issue.  Again, trump has gotten his "enemy" to stoop to his level....and he has proven to win those battles.  Unbelievable that we can't have any adults in the room.
    That event isn’t supposed to have any adults in the room and that’s the point. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    I didn't know who Michelle Wolfe was before waking up to the faux outrage campaign on Sunday morning and I don't care who she is a day later.
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  • Kev - Coat and Keys
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    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
    Right....and where was the outrage 2008-2016? ;)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,073
    cincybearcat said:
    Kev - Coat and Keys said:
    There was the exact same nonsense outrage after Colbert's WHCD in 2006 and what happened to that dude's career? 
    Right....and where was the outrage 2008-2016? ;)
    I don’t recall the outrage when a comedian used the N word in relation to Obama as he sat on the Dias. Tough guy Team Trump Treason is a snowflake.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    It's another example of why the Right cannot be taken seriously. Alex Jones and Donald Trump are A-OK. Some random comedian though? Public Enemy #1.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,682
    She was a little crude at times* but she also showed the press a mirror and they didn't like what they saw...or, I should say, they did not like that she made them look. The line about how they pretend to hate Trump but they actually love him was spot on.  For the most part, this was honest and we're not really down with honesty any more.

    I didn't need the shots at McConnell's and Christie's appearance (I want to be above that) but this focus on the eye-shadow line being an insult about Sanders's looks is silly.  She called her out for being a liar, something the "real media" won't do.  Her biggest mistake was not recognizing that many people would be to lazy to actually understand what she was doing.

    *Only the current president is supposed to speak that way.  We elected this guy in large part because we were "sick of political correctness" and he's thin-skinned as hell and the "Fuck Your Feelings" crowd is offended now.  The hypocrisy.  
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  • cincybearcat
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    OnWis97 said:
    She was a little crude at times* but she also showed the press a mirror and they didn't like what they saw...or, I should say, they did not like that she made them look. The line about how they pretend to hate Trump but they actually love him was spot on.  For the most part, this was honest and we're not really down with honesty any more.

    I didn't need the shots at McConnell's and Christie's appearance (I want to be above that) but this focus on the eye-shadow line being an insult about Sanders's looks is silly.  She called her out for being a liar, something the "real media" won't do.  Her biggest mistake was not recognizing that many people would be to lazy to actually understand what she was doing.

    *Only the current president is supposed to speak that way.  We elected this guy in large part because we were "sick of political correctness" and he's thin-skinned as hell and the "Fuck Your Feelings" crowd is offended now.  The hypocrisy.  
    Certainly there are a lot of hypocrites being upset when they've been doing the same thing.
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  • my2hands
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    JimmyV said:
    It's another example of why the Right cannot be taken seriously. Alex Jones and Donald Trump are A-OK. Some random comedian though? Public Enemy #1.

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