America's Gun Violence

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    It isn’t hypocrisy because they are playing by the secret service s rules. Del you are really stretching on this one. 

    Can we get clarification on the NRA headquarters' policy?

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  • Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Can we get clarification on the NRA headquarters' policy?

    Found this on the Google machine......

    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-visitors-to-NRA-headquarters-are-not-allowed-to-carry-guns-If-so-why
  • Posts: 17,117
    It's not a stretch... its hypocrisy 

    The argument being made by a TON of pro-gun folks is that "gun free zones" are a problem in theory and in reality and invite trouble... and that only more armed people are the answer, because people can and will break the rules so we need good guys packing to deter/stop the bad guys... anytime a shooting happens in a "gun free zone" the pro gun crowd screams about it to the high heavens... and now when you have someone important show to speak to the NRA the pro gun crowd shrugs their shoulders and says ask the secret service...

    Hilarious 


  • New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    my2hands said:
    It's not a stretch... its hypocrisy 

    The argument being made by a TON of pro-gun folks is that "gun free zones" are a problem in theory and in reality and invite trouble... and that only more armed people are the answer, because people can and will break the rules so we need good guys packing to deter/stop the bad guys... anytime a shooting happens in a "gun free zone" the pro gun crowd screams about it to the high heavens... and now when you have someone important show to speak to the NRA the pro gun crowd shrugs their shoulders and says ask the secret service...

    Hilarious 


    Stop. Are you guys actually serious on this argument?  It is apples and oranges and you know it. The Vice President will have plenty of security that will beat the shit out of us with their pinky finger. Gun free zones are notorious soft targets with little to no protection. 
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Stop. Are you guys actually serious on this argument?  It is apples and oranges and you know it. The Vice President will have plenty of security that will beat the shit out of us with their pinky finger. Gun free zones are notorious soft targets with little to no protection. 
    Yeah I can’t honestly tell if they are being serious or not with their argument.
    like they are surprised you can’t just walk into thebwhitehouse armed? They have to be joking.
    Besides the VP is never in a gun free zone. He will have some of the country’s best trained and heavily armed surrounding him.
    when has anyone ever been allowed near the president or VP armed?

  • Found this on the Google machine......

    https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-visitors-to-NRA-headquarters-are-not-allowed-to-carry-guns-If-so-why

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  • mcgruff10 said:
    Stop. Are you guys actually serious on this argument?  It is apples and oranges and you know it. The Vice President will have plenty of security that will beat the shit out of us with their pinky finger. Gun free zones are notorious soft targets with little to no protection. 
    Well hang on a second then.

    If the VP has so much awesome security, then what are they worried about? That seems like the step that needs to be taken, yet they go an additional step and remove guns from the equation.

    Why do they remove guns from the equation? Because nobody gets shot when there are no guns in the equation.

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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    Well hang on a second then.

    If the VP has so much awesome security, then what are they worried about? That seems like the step that needs to be taken, yet they go an additional step and remove guns from the equation.

    Why do they remove guns from the equation? Because nobody gets shot when there are no guns in the equation.

    So in turn Democrats should insist that next presidential election cycle that candidates will have no armed protection. I mean gun free zones mean gun free. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    So in turn Democrats should insist that next presidential election cycle that candidates will have no armed protection. I mean gun free zones mean gun free. 

    I'm not sure how you equate that to a NRA convention?

    But yeah... if politicians (from all sides) do not feel like they need to protect the common citizen with common sense gun regulations... then they certainly shouldn't institute 'personalized' ones so they are safe.

    They should live by the same standard as the average joe.
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  • New Jersey Posts: 29,117

    I'm not sure how you equate that to a NRA convention?

    But yeah... if politicians (from all sides) do not feel like they need to protect the common citizen with common sense gun regulations... then they certainly shouldn't institute 'personalized' ones so they are safe.

    They should live by the same standard as the average joe.
    Agreed. Fuck this shit. Let s go have a beer in Hawaii. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10 said:
    Agreed. Fuck this shit. Let s go have a beer in Hawaii. 
    I'm in!
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  • Posts: 42,205
    Just another “responsible” gun owner, running for office no less.

    Shocking Gun Ad By Georgia Gubernatorial Candidate Brian Kemp Backfires - HuffPost https://apple.news/Ae94eeBgDQBuZCNU9eg4kFw
     
    Ha, ha funny too.
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    Just another “responsible” gun owner, running for office no less.

    Shocking Gun Ad By Georgia Gubernatorial Candidate Brian Kemp Backfires - HuffPost https://apple.news/Ae94eeBgDQBuZCNU9eg4kFw
     
    Ha, ha funny too.
    That is a pretty bad ad. Terrible idea to use a gun like that and point it at the kid like its a toy. 
  • Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    That is a pretty bad ad. Terrible idea to use a gun like that and point it at the kid like its a toy. 
    Seriously stupid, but politicians are not historically known for being positive examples of firearm safety...Remember Biden’s comment about “just shoot the shotgun in the air” to scare a home intruder away and the recent Karen Moulder creating an illegal firearm and recording it on Facebook for all to see...The people making the laws don’t know shit about firearms.
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    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously stupid, but politicians are not historically known for being positive examples of firearm safety...Remember Biden’s comment about “just shoot the shotgun in the air” to scare a home intruder away and the recent Karen Moulder creating an illegal firearm and recording it on Facebook for all to see...The people making the laws don’t know shit about firearms.
    The NRA doesn't know shit about firearms? Too funny!
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    The NRA doesn't know shit about firearms? Too funny!
    The NRA probably does, but the actual politicians that they lobby on behalf of probably do not for the most part (although I’d argue that the pro gun politicians are probably more likely to have firearms knowledge/training than the gun control politicians).  
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  • hahahahaha

    I never read the link because the link offered all you need to know. Some dipshit shot a smoke detector to quiet it. It's a new low. An actual Homer Simpson lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuG9kUiRC_I

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    PJPOWER said:
    Seriously stupid, but politicians are not historically known for being positive examples of firearm safety...Remember Biden’s comment about “just shoot the shotgun in the air” to scare a home intruder away and the recent Karen Moulder creating an illegal firearm and recording it on Facebook for all to see...The people making the laws don’t know shit about firearms.
    Who is Karen Moulder? I'm interested to here more about that story.

    I do remember a Karen Mallard who destroyed a gun and who you said would be charged, how is that investigation going? Charges imminent?
  • Posts: 42,205
    hahahahaha

    I never read the link because the link offered all you need to know. Some dipshit shot a smoke detector to quiet it. It's a new low. An actual Homer Simpson lol:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuG9kUiRC_I

    It gets better. After being disarmed by the fire department personnel, he pulled a handgun and demanded his shotgun back, only to be disarmed again by the fire department personnel. I guess they should arm the fire department because only good guys with guns can stop “responsible” gun owners?
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